Republican candidates foreign policy debate to begin at 8 p.m. EST v. we're gonna free the shit out
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[quote]SPARTANBURG, SC - Eight candidates looking to unseat President Obama will gather on stage at Wofford College Saturday night for a debate on national security and foreign policy hosted by CBS News and National Journal.
The Spartanburg, South Carolina, debate is chance for Texas Gov. Rick Perry to revive his candidacy after a major flub Wednesday night in Michigan where he said he wants to eliminate three government agencies but could only name two of them. The awkward pause has been played over and over again on TV and the Internet since then.
In the CBS News poll released Friday, Cain leads the field with 18 percent, followed by Romney and a surging Newt Gingrich at 15 percent. Perry is in fourth place in the poll with 8 percent, followed by Ron Paul at 5 percent, Michele Bachmann at 4 percent, Rick Santorum at 2 percent and Jon Huntsman at 1 percent.
The poll also showed that GOP primary voters consider Gingrich the presidential candidate most qualified to lead the military and handle an international crisis. He was cited by 31 percent of those surveyed, followed by Romney at 19 percent and Cain at 8 percent.
Meanwhile, political observers will be watching Herman Cain closely to see how he fares on matters of foreign policy. He has zero foreign policy experience, and may have the most to lose. Cain has been criticized as a Johnny one-note with his signature 9-9-9 tax plan and been immersed in battling sexual harassment accusations for the past two weeks. Saturday night's forum will be a signifcant test for the former restaurant executive.
Asked which GOP presidential candidate is most qualified to be commander-in-chief, Republican primary voters chose Romney more than any other candidate, at 26 percent. Gingrich took 21 percent, Cain 11 percent and Perry 9 percent. (Read more from the poll on Americans' views about foreign policy.)
South Carolina is key for Republican primary voters. Since 1980, the winner of the South Carolina primary has gone on to win the Republican nomination every time.
The race for the GOP nomination is still in flux, however. According the CBS News poll, 7 in 10 Republican primary voters say it is still too early to say for sure which candidate they will support.
Moderated by CBS Evening News anchor Scott Pelley and National Journal congressional correspondent Major Garrett, the debate airs at 8:00 p.m. ET on the CBS Television Network and will be webcast at CBSNews.com and NationalJournal.com. The final half hour will only be available online, except for the West Coast where the full debate will air on television.
After the debate, CBS News political analyst John Dickerson will host a post-debate webcast analysis of the candidates on CBSNews.com.
The debates are closely watched among Republican primary voters, 61 percent of whom said they have seen at least one in the latest CBS News poll. Slightly more than half of all voters have seen at least one debate so far.
Three in four Republican primary voters say the debate performances matter when they are deciding which candidate to back. About 30 percent said they are "very important" and another 46 percent said they are "somewhat important." About one in four voters said debate performances do not matter at all when they are choosing a candidate.[/quote]
I've been posting each debate in general discussion, but there's never much of an interest so I decided to post it here. The debate begins in a few minutes.
live stream: [url]http://www.cbsnews.com/2718-250_162-1335.html[/url]
Romney will attack China's economics and criticize Obama for not going after Iran and supporting Israel on every move they make.
Cain will make a statement that is grossly incorrect or out of date.
Gingrich will cite his experience habitually.
Perry will blank out on something.
Bachman will resume her calls for Iraq to repay us for liberating them. (dumb)
Paul will criticize the wars in the middle east.
Santorum will continue to be irrelevant.
Huntsman will be right in most aspects but will be completely ignored.
[QUOTE=Sega Saturn;33251939]Huntsman will be right in most aspects but will be completely ignored.[/QUOTE]
Who's Huntsman?
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;33251999]Who's Huntsman?[/QUOTE]
The only one that [i]doesn't[/i] think global warming is a made-up scam for research money.
the real issue here is, we need to bomb the fuck out of pakistan and iran
[QUOTE=Sega Saturn;33251939]Huntsman will be right in most aspects but will be completely ignored.[/QUOTE]
Correct relative to the rest of them. Like if say he and Obama had to have a negotiation and then reach an agreement, they'd do it best. He has diplomat experience, and he's great at being rational about issues, even if he has an opinion of his own.
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[QUOTE=TropicalV2;33252134]the real issue here is, we need to bomb the fuck out of pakistan and iran[/QUOTE]
Yes, that's the [I]real[/I] issue.
I [I]think[/I] Huntsman is sane, but I don't know anything about the dude.
Only candidate I never ever hear about or get to learn shit about.
[QUOTE=mac338;33252231]I [I]think[/I] Huntsman is sane, but I don't know anything about the dude.
Only candidate I never ever hear about or get to learn shit about.[/QUOTE]
That's because he's always at about 1% in the polls.
Holy shit what people are saying in this debate is scary. These guys are basically advocating direct war against Iran not to mention other things.
herman cain reminds me of lando calrissian when he was in command & conquer 3
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;33252261]Holy shit what people are saying in this debate is scary. These guys are basically advocating direct war against Iran not to mention other things.[/QUOTE]
Fighting and dying for Israel is one of the most patriotic things an American can do.
Oh zinger towards Rick Perry.
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Hehe, typical Herman Cain contradictory answer.
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Jeez. They're saying they'd invade Iran and use torture.
[QUOTE=mac338;33252305]Hehe, typical Herman Cain contradictory answer.
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Jeez. They're saying they'd invade Iran and use torture.[/QUOTE]
Well yeah, they're Republicans.
Jon Huntsman
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH4ibOfS9lw&feature=player_embedded[/media]
[QUOTE=mac338;33252305]Jeez. They're saying they'd invade Iran and use torture.[/QUOTE]
Wait, seriously?
After reading your comment, I decided "fuck it, this is more interesting than what I was doing" and started watching this.
This is disgusting.
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Pfffffahahahahahaha
One of them LITERALLY just said "Dey tirk err jerbs!"
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Did that guy just defend Gaddafi?
Seriously?
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Cain: Pro-torture!
and whoever is after him!
And Perry.
"Human rights? What's that! :downs:"
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Wait... does Bachmann think Osama Bin Laden was an American citizen?
Why the fuck is she talking about him in response to Paul's "We shouldn't assassinate American citizens"?
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Bachmann apparently thinks we should be more like China.
Why am I surprised about this? I already know she's a dumbass.
Jesus, this entire debate is pure warmongering with the exception of Ron Paul and John Huntsman.
Seriously, I actually really like Huntsman. He seems intelligent and very socially open. I remember when he said the republican party needs to embrace science, he's against war, against torture.
I'd say he'd probably be a pretty good president. I'm not sure on his stance on a lot of issues, but he seems to be pretty centered.
[QUOTE=Zareox7;33252410]Jon Huntsman
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH4ibOfS9lw&feature=player_embedded[/media][/QUOTE]
I don't get it.
[QUOTE=mac338;33252502]I don't get it.[/QUOTE]
Exactly...
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;33252497]Jesus, this entire debate is pure warmongering with the exception of Ron Paul and John Huntsman.
Seriously, I actually really like Huntsman. He seems intelligent and very socially open. I remember when he said the republican party needs to embrace science, he's against war, against torture.
I'd say he'd probably be a pretty good president. I'm not sure on his stance on a lot of issues, but he seems to be pretty centered.[/QUOTE]
He's a legitimate Right-leaning Centrist as opposed to the Rightist Conservative crowd you get with the rest of the candidates, Ron Paul being the exception among the rest.
video removed. :(
it was a failed upload of the debate by CBS that turned into a horrifyingly glitchy mess.
[QUOTE=TheHydra;33253315][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL0_PbmGwEs&feature=channel_video_title[/media]
holy shit what is going on in this video jesus christ[/QUOTE]
Absolutely nothing. :v:
So, how many here want Jon Huntsman to be president?
[QUOTE=Alien_23;33259642]So, how many here want Jon Huntsman to be president?[/QUOTE]
He reminded me of Ron Paul in the way that even though he could make some good decisions in office, he could also make some incredibly shitty ones as well. Anywhere else in the Western World, Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman would be an average candidate, with nothing truely standing out about them, but when compared to people Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry etc, they look like the second coming of Christ!
I would not mind Huntsman being a candidate.
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[QUOTE=Stockers678;33259924]He reminded me of Ron Paul in the way that even though he could make some good decisions in office, he could also make some incredibly shitty ones as well. Anywhere else in the Western World, Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman would be an average candidate, with nothing truely standing out about them, but when compared to people Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry etc, they look like the second coming of Christ![/QUOTE]
Every president has made great decisions in the office, as well as bad ones.
I don't understand that statement.
[QUOTE=Alien_23;33259642]So, how many here want Jon Huntsman to be president?[/QUOTE]
Be president? Maybe not. Be the Republican Presidential Candidate? More favorable than the other Republican candidates.
Has there been anything like Ron Paul and Huntsman going head to head? Since these seem like the most promising candidates I'd like to see how they'd do against each other.
[QUOTE=Zareox7;33260019]Be president? Maybe not. Be the Republican Presidential Candidate? More favorable than the other Republican candidates.[/QUOTE]
I want Michelle Bachman to the candidate.
They will surely lose then.
[quote]The poll also showed that GOP primary voters consider Gingrich the presidential candidate most qualified to lead the military and handle an international crisis. He was cited by 31 percent of those surveyed, followed by Romney at 19 percent and Cain at 8 percent.[/quote]
That is FUCKING terrifying.
...Since when did Newt Gingrich become such an important candidate?
Exactly why do people support him again?
Glaber 2012!
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