Fox News’s Shepherd Smith debunks Uranium One conspiracy theory, infuriates viewers - Polidicks

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnsAZzsdI1U[/media] [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/11/15/fox-news-shepherd-smith-debunks-his-networks-hillary-clinton-scandal-story-infuriates-viewers/?hpid=hp_mhp-morning-mix_mm-smith%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.db784fe70a77[/url] [quote]Fox News anchor Shepherd Smith debunked what his own network has called the Hillary Clinton uranium “scandal,” infuriating Fox viewers, some of whom suggested that he ought to work for CNN or MSNBC. Smith’s critique, which called President Trump’s accusations against Clinton “inaccurate,” was triggered by renewed calls from Republicans on Capitol Hill for a special counsel to investigate Clinton. Fox News, along with Trump and his allies, have been suggesting for months a link between donations to the Clinton Foundation and the approval of a deal by the State Department and the Obama administration allowing a Russian company to purchase a Canada-based mining group with operations in the United States. Trump called it “Watergate, modern-age.” Former White House adviser Sebastian Gorka, speaking on Fox News last month, said it was “equivalent to” the Julius and Ethel Rosenberg spying case of the 1950s, in which the couple was charged with providing U.S. atomic secrets to the Soviet Union, noting that “those people got the chair.”[/quote]

[I]"But Hillarys's emails!"[/I] Now that this conspiracy has had the floor ripped out from under it I wonder what the right-wingers will jump on next?

Anyone surprised? Hilary is Trump's scapegoat. Looks like I'm getting in trouble better blame Shillary.

[QUOTE]Fox News anchor Shepherd Smith debunked what his own network has called the Hillary Clinton uranium “scandal,” infuriating Fox viewers, some of whom suggested that he ought to work for CNN or MSNBC.[/QUOTE] I think we know what happened to all the kids who were raised as special snowflakes in the 90s and 00s. They were raised learning that they deserve to win and their feelings are important, and now when bad news hits them the instinctual response is to tell it to go away and stop interrupting their nice echo chamber that tells them what they want to hear. When you combine special snowflakeness with a susceptibility to conspiracy theories and propaganda, well, you get Trump who got elected and keeps his core base with the hollow promise of making America great again - when the men were men, the women were pregnant and knew their place, the gays were in the closet or better yet in jail, trans weren't, God was where he belonged in society, and everyone had well-paying labour jobs. You also get designated safe spaces in universities and all sorts of other shit that isn't exclusive to the far right, too, but those things are off-topic for this thread.

[quote]Trump called it “Watergate, modern-age.”[/quote] I don't know, I can think of something else slightly more deserving of that moniker...

ah yes the one portion of fox where they aren't allowed to openly lie

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52892478]I think we know what happened to all the kids who were raised as special snowflakes in the 90s and 00s. They were raised learning that they deserve to win and their feelings are important, and now when bad news hits them the instinctual response is to tell it to go away and stop interrupting their nice echo chamber that tells them what they want to hear. When you combine special snowflakeness with a susceptibility to conspiracy theories and propaganda, well, you get Trump who got elected and keeps his core base with the hollow promise of making America great again - when the men were men, the women were pregnant and knew their place, the gays were in the closet or better yet in jail, God was where he belonged in society, and everyone had well-paying labour jobs. You also get designated safe spaces in universities and all sorts of other shit that isn't exclusive to the far right, too, but those things are off-topic for this thread.[/QUOTE] Its not that, I have to find the study, but the feeling of powerlessness is the foundation for conspiracy theorists.

[QUOTE=SunsetTable;52892540]Its not that, I have to find the study, but the feeling of powerlessness is the foundation for conspiracy theorists.[/QUOTE] Yeah, a large part of the reason people get attached to conspiracy theories has to do with people feeling powerless or meaningless. If bad things just happen for no reason at any time, then there is no real way to prevent them and it can happen to anyone, ergo no one is ever safe. So for some people the way to cope with this is to imagine that these things are in fact happening for a reason. If there is an identifiable cause for the bad things that happen, then it can be eliminated and the bad things will stop, and people will be safe. So blaming the government for things that happen provides a much more approachable and fightable target. Consider this: "I lost my job because the economy is in shambles and massive corporations are eliminating their workforces and keeping wages down. Insurance companies are exploiting the sick, and I can't afford to get my sick kid medical treatment. People keep getting killed in mass murder and I'm scared to go out to public areas and events because of the internal turmoil from racial, social, and economic clashes." That is terrifying because there is seemingly no way to readily fix any of that or to make it better. Now consider this: "I lost my job because Clinton and the Democrats keep taxing companies too much to pay their workers. Clinton and the Democrats passed a healthcare bill that made healthcare more expensive, so now I can't pay to treat my sick kid. Clinton and the Democrats keep letting in unknown foreigners from dangerous places, now they're killing everyone." That provides a readily identifiable cause and its something that can be ostensibly fixed. If Clinton has no influence, then she can't make things bad. If the Democrats aren't in power, they can't pass this harmful legislation. It simple to understand and has a cause anyone can identify and come up with a solution for.

Shep Smith is fantastic, I hope Fox keeps him around even with this.

Conserv. and republicans call others "libtards" "snowflakes" but god damn. These people have the most thinnest skin I've ever seen.

[quote]infuriating Fox viewers, some of whom suggested that he ought to work for CNN or MSNBC.[/quote] it's like these cunts exist in some dual reality where facts and their relevance to you depend on your political affiliation

Someone gets this man a batman cowl for his news hour.

It's a shame Smith can't be their only anchor.

Smith has been courageous again and again going against his editors and Fox News' agenda to present simple facts. And in such an intelligent, easy to understand way. We don't have many quality journalists in the spotlight anymore, but I think he is one of them.

Good lord, I never expected to have the most thorough breakdown and debunking of Uranium One come from Fox News itself. Is this some kind of rebellion, or is the editorial angle of Fox changing against Trump and Bannon/Brietbart?

[QUOTE=Pax;52892663]Good lord, I never expected to have the most thorough breakdown and debunking of Uranium One come from Fox News itself. Is this some kind of rebellion, or is the editorial angle of Fox changing against Trump and Bannon/Brietbart?[/QUOTE] No, Shepard Smith just does this. They keep him around explicitly because of this, because he is the voice of reason in their nuthouse. That way they can get some attention from people who aren't diehard conservatives.

They're literally mad that he presented them with the facts, because they weren't the facts they wanted.

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;52892694]They're literally mad that he presented them with the facts, because they weren't the facts they wanted.[/QUOTE] "Alternative facts"...

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;52892694]They're literally mad that he presented them with the facts, because they weren't the facts they wanted.[/QUOTE] They prefer alternative facts.

Meanwhile Sean Hannity went full Glenn Beck with charts showing Clinton's definitive involvement :v:

[QUOTE=AnnieOakley;52892648]It's a shame Smith can't be their only anchor.[/QUOTE] At the rate they're going, he might be.

Facts are the enemy of the Republican establishment and Alt-Right both. Fox News is a propaganda network that wages war against reality itself in order to further indoctrinate their viewership. Sheep Smith breaking their propagandist narrative enrages their viewership because they have been led to believe that reality as it exists is all just a part of the Liberal Agenda.

[quote]infuriating Fox viewers, some of whom suggested that he ought to work for CNN or MSNBC.[/quote] They might have a point here

[QUOTE=Raidyr;52893036]Meanwhile Sean Hannity went full Glenn Beck with charts showing Clinton's definitive involvement :v:[/QUOTE] saw that this morning, incredible [t]https://i.imgur.com/w6I393q.jpg[/t] [t]http://s.storage.akamai.coub.com/get/b64/p/coub/simple/cw_timeline_pic/e5ec69bbe7a/c19910490768f8e38e52e/med_1471514724_image.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=dai;52893515]saw that this morning, incredible [t]https://i.imgur.com/w6I393q.jpg[/t] [t]http://s.storage.akamai.coub.com/get/b64/p/coub/simple/cw_timeline_pic/e5ec69bbe7a/c19910490768f8e38e52e/med_1471514724_image.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] Saw this in LAMO Pics eariler today. [t]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/232185446996770818/380379326388109313/jvkatFb_d.png[/t]

The reason Fox doesn't fire Shep Smith is because they know that their viewers will only double down on their beliefs when presented with information that doesn't re-enforce the worldview Fox has created for them. What you are seeing here is by design. Fox counts on Shep Smith to tell the truth. Shep Smith is Fox's way of saying to the rest of the world "we have thoroughly brainwashed our viewers and, as you can see, there isn't jack shit that you can do about it."

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;52892694]They're literally mad that he presented them with the facts, because they weren't the facts they wanted.[/QUOTE] "But these guys said something else." I have litterally pulled out a political history book and cited 3 well documented examples of why someone's bullshit claim is bullshit but the truth is apparently my "opinion" [editline]15th November 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=dai;52893515]saw that this morning, incredible [t]https://i.imgur.com/w6I393q.jpg[/t] [/QUOTE] Putin ---> wikileaks ---> don Jr Trump ---> trump whew that was complicated.

[QUOTE=dai;52893515]saw that this morning, incredible[/QUOTE] I like how indirect the link is between bill clinton and hilary [editline]15th November 2017[/editline] Also check out the table that Louie Gohmert decided to present to the house [img_thumb]https://i.imgur.com/yoVajmr.jpg[/img_thumb] I can't figure out how Obama is connected to Obama

[QUOTE=Lambeth;52894124]I like how indirect the link is between bill clinton and hilary [editline]15th November 2017[/editline] Also check out the table that Louie Gohmert decided to present to the house [img_thumb]https://i.imgur.com/yoVajmr.jpg[/img_thumb] I can't figure out how Obama is connected to Obama[/QUOTE] How the fuck did we get to this point

Those types of graphs are so beyond useless.