Obama to Call for End to N.S.A.’s Bulk Data Collection
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[QUOTE]WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is preparing to unveil a legislative proposal for a far-reaching overhaul of the National Security Agency’s once-secret bulk phone records program in a way that — if approved by Congress — would end the aspect that has most alarmed privacy advocates since its existence was leaked last year, according to senior administration officials.
Under the proposal, they said, N.S.A. would end its systematic collection of data about Americans’ calling habits. The records would be stay in the hands of phone companies, which would not be required to retain the data for any longer than they normally would. And the N.S.A. could obtain specific records only with permission from a judge, using a new kind of court order.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/25/us/obama-to-seek-nsa-curb-on-call-data.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0[/url]
They'll not but say they did.
It'll probably either accomplish nothing or just force the NSA to keep doing what it's doing with a slightly different method. But I can still hope.
Haha yeah right
Ah, I see once again Obama is asking those who report to him to kindly consider doing what he asks of them. Instead of, you know, ordering them to do it.
Okay, now how about doing something about monitoring every packet of data going through the Internet.
Obama gets criticized no matter how he does shit it seems.
Executive order to get shit done: People explode with, "Obamamer the anti-christ-moslem-dictator-socialism is killing eagles with his nazi orders."
Asks government to make change: People explode with, "Obama isn't doing enough to fix problems, biggest pussy in history of presidency ever, freedom is dead."
[QUOTE=Blanketspace;44345842]They'll not but say they did.[/QUOTE]
So there's literally nothing they could possibly do to convince you that they stopped?
I thought he already did this.
And it didnt stop.
[QUOTE=Explosions;44346153]So there's literally nothing they could possibly do to convince you that they stopped?[/QUOTE]
Its kinda normal not to trust the government lately.
This wouldn't be the first thing they've lied about.
Whatever you say, O' Brien.
[QUOTE=draugur;44346145]Obama gets criticized no matter how he does shit it seems.
Executive order to get shit done: People explode with, "Obamamer the anti-christ-moslem-dictator-socialism is killing eagles with his nazi orders."
Asks government to make change: People explode with, "Obama isn't doing enough to fix problems, biggest pussy in history of presidency ever, freedom is dead."[/QUOTE]
This is a branch of government that reports to him. He can order them to do whatever, and it's good. This isn't usurping checks and balances or going around the other branches of government, this is him dealing with his underlings.
Hey Obama
Cool political maneuvering bro
[QUOTE=darunner;44346868]This is a branch of government that reports to him. He can order them to do whatever, and it's good. This isn't usurping checks and balances or going around the other branches of government, this is him dealing with his underlings.[/QUOTE]
Legislative change will prevent a future administration from silently reintroducing the program though which is neat
[QUOTE=darunner;44346868]This is a branch of government that reports to him. He can order them to do whatever, and it's good. This isn't usurping checks and balances or going around the other branches of government, this is him dealing with his underlings.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying that it is bad, just pointing out the amazing bipolar ability our nation seems to have.
I always thought the NSA was one of those departments that don't answer to anyone.
He's the President, He doesn't "call for an end". He should be telling them to stop.
[QUOTE=Blanketspace;44345842]They'll not but say they did.[/QUOTE]
Obviously we want them to say they haven't stopped, because then they're just trying to trick us into to thinking they're watching. Unless of course, they'll know we'll think this and double secretly still be watching to see what we say when we think they're lying about watching.
Is this going to be like when he asked for Guantanamo to be closed
[QUOTE=Matthew0505;44347058]It's generally not a good idea to trust unverified claims from an agency of professional liars.[/QUOTE]
Tbh, they rarely lie. It's what they [i]don't tell[/i]. I always found them to be more of a scavenger type. Something along the lines of Obama's personal raccoon squad.
[QUOTE=Kirbunny431;44345850]It'll probably either accomplish nothing or just force the NSA to keep doing what it's doing with a slightly different method. But I can still hope.[/QUOTE]Well I hope they realise that spying on Australians is an utter waste of time and resources. That would be a good slighty different way.
[QUOTE=Azarath;44347426]I always thought the NSA was one of those departments that don't answer to anyone.[/QUOTE]
Probably because most people here get all their knowledge of the NSA from spy movies. All intelligence agencies report to the ODNI which in turn answers to Congress and the President for setting policy, and the HPSCI and SSCI monitor intelligence agencies directly with inspections, investigations, and auditing as necessary.
[QUOTE=catbarf;44349439]Probably because most people here get all their knowledge of the NSA from spy movies. All intelligence agencies report to the ODNI which in turn answers to Congress and the President for setting policy, and the HPSCI and SSCI monitor intelligence agencies directly with inspections, investigations, and auditing as necessary.[/QUOTE]
I've played and read all of the Splinter Cell games and novels, I'm a certified NSA expert.
as if obama has anything to say about that
Sure, i'm totally buying it !
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