• Cairo official death toll passes 500 from yesterdays crackdown.
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[quote=BBC]Brotherhood members had been protesting for weeks about the army's overthrow of President Mohammed Morsi in July. The government says 525 died nationwide on Wednesday, but the final toll is likely to be significantly higher. Scores of bodies have not been registered, because the official count only includes bodies which have passed through hospitals. The BBC's Khaled Ezzelarab has reported seeing at least 140 bodies wrapped in shrouds at the Eman mosque, close to the main protest camp at Rabaa al-Adawiya Square. These will not have been counted in the official toll. The Muslim Brotherhood insists that more than 2,000 people died. It says 300 bodies were taken to the Eman mosque, and other bodies were taken to sports halls. [...] Many countries have condemned the Egyptian security forces' actions. Navi Pillay, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, has demanded an independent, impartial inquiry into what happened on Wednesday. "The number of people killed or injured, even according to the government's figures, point to an excessive, even extreme, use of force against demonstrators," Ms Pillay said in a statement. Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan described the events as a "very serious massacre". US President Barack Obama is due to give a statement on the issue soon. Mr Morsi, Egypt's first democratically elected president, was ousted by the military on 3 July. He is now in custody, charged with murder over a 2011 jailbreak. His period of detention was extended by 30 days on Thursday, state media said.[/quote] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23711534[/url] Why Coups are Bad: The case study.
[URL="http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/unruhen-in-aegypten-tote-mursi-anhaenger-koennen-nicht-beerdigt-werden-a-916816.html"]According to Spiegel Online[/URL] the authorities aren't giving out death certificates to prevent further violence at funeral processions. It's pretty horrible, considering funerals are usually held on the same or next day due to the climate. In my view it's one of those things that should absolutely not be hindered no matter the circumstances. Regulating the processions if there's an immediate risk of violence would be understandable, but not this.
The sad thing is that a lot of people are trivializing these democratic protests by calling them shit like "Jihadists" since they support the Brotherhood, who were voted in the last and accountable elections. The military dictatorship is trying to mask the massacre by deflating death counts. Some of the photos are sickening.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;41848534]The sad thing is that a lot of people are trivializing these democratic protests by calling them shit like "Jihadists" since they support the Brotherhood, who were voted in the last and accountable elections. The military dictatorship is trying to mask the massacre by deflating death counts. Some of the photos are sickening.[/QUOTE] Was listening to BBC news earlier today when someone from some London based think tank was doing that. He kept saying stuff like "Well, it was completly irresponsable to bring women and children to these very dangerous camps (in which people that disagreed with the pro-morsi people were tortured btw)" The guy who was hosting echoed what i said (out loud actually, it sounded so weird) by going "But it was peaceful until the military showed up". The guy just sidestepped that, i think he mentioned terrorist (or armed groups) at some point Just felt weird listening to
Remember when all those people were happy about the coup because it ousted the Islamists? Seems like so long ago. Anyway, I hope this does not devolve further. [editline]15th August 2013[/editline] Oh god who bought me this title I've only been gone for 2 weeks
Honestly at least from watching videos and reports the brotherhood supporters seem like the more level headed people. They are just genuinely mad that Morsi was taken out and rightfully so. The other protesters on the opposite side just spew nonsense conspiracy theories and yell fuck America. At least the ones who got near a camera. [editline]15th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=person11;41849788]Remember when all those people were happy about the coup because it ousted the Islamists? Seems like so long ago. [/QUOTE] because people are dumb reactionaries and don't seem long term consequences.
How the US government can support these shitlords without having a good hard look at themselves I'll never know [editline]16th August 2013[/editline] Also many Egyptian liberals, secularists etc.
I hate being part of the pessimistic minority who thought this would happen when this all started.
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