Anger as Wikileaks releases all US cables uncensored - Polidicks

[release] Wikileaks' media partners have strongly criticised the whistleblower group's decision to release its entire archive of US cables uncensored. Wikleaks says all 251,287 of the leaked diplomatic cables are now online in a searchable format. It comes amid a row between Wikileaks and the Guardian newspaper over who was behind the earlier release of thousands of unredacted cables. The papers said they were "united in condemning" the uncensored release. Wikileaks has already published tens of thousands of the cables and had planned to keep doing so until November this year. But on Friday it announced on its Twitter feed: "Shining a light on 45 years of US 'diplomacy', it is time to open the archives forever." It then began publishing its remaining cables, grouped by the country they relate to. They include 34,687 files on Iraq, 8,003 on Kuwait, 9,755 on Australia and 12,606 on Egypt. 'Sources at risk' The search database soon became overloaded, prompting Wikileaks to appeal for donations to fund additional server space. W The Guardian said the archive contained several thousand files marked "Strictly protect," indicating US officials thought sources could be endangered if identified. Some files also name victims of sex offences, people persecuted by their governments and the locations of sensitive government installations, said the paper. One cable dated December 2004 contains the telephone numbers of key figures at the Vatican, including the then Pope John Paul II. In a joint statement, the Guardian, El Pais, New York Times and Der Spiegel said they "deplore the decision of WikiLeaks to publish the unredacted state department cables, which may put sources at risk". "Our previous dealings with WikiLeaks were on the clear basis that we would only publish cables which had been subjected to a thorough joint editing and clearance process. We will continue to defend our previous collaborative publishing endeavour. "We cannot defend the needless publication of the complete data - indeed, we are united in condemning it. The papers said the decision to publish the files was made solely by Wikileaks' founder Julian Assange, who is on bail in the UK awaiting extradition to Sweden to answer allegations of rape and sexual assault. French newspaper and Wikileaks partner Le Monde told the Associated Press it would also sign the statement. In response, Wikileaks said on Twitter: "The Guardian continues to issue false statements. The nepotism in the Guardian has clearly compromised its accountability." Among the latest revelations are: concern from the US consulate in Guangzhou, China over "alarming" levels of contamination in the Pearl River and other water supplies, presenting serious health and economic problems a UN investigator in Iraq wrote to the US saying he had information that US troops handcuffed and executed 10 Iraqi civilans, including children, during a raid in 2006 - the soldiers were cleared of wrongdoing but Iraq now says it is reopening the investigation eight out of 10 girls interviewed in a town in Ivory Coast said they had exchanged sex for food or lodging with UN peacekeepers from Benin environmental scientists in Nigeria witnessed local people living in the middle of oil spills and had seen young boys swimming in crude oil Bedouin citizens of Israel are routinely marginalised, and unnamed Israeli officials fear they could "acquire anti-aircraft missiles for use against Israeli aircraft" Password online Wikileaks has been steadily releasing the cables - written by staff at US embassies around to the world to the State Department - since 2010. Wikileaks founder Julian Assange is fighting extradition to Sweden over sexual assault charges The confidential cables - containing officials' candid views on society, politics, state leaders and other individuals - have proved embarrassing to US officials and others worldwide. Wikileaks initially agreed to pass the data to several newspapers, who searched for noteworthy stories, then removed names and other sensitive data before publishing. However, it has long been known that Wikileaks lost control of the cables even before they were published and that encrypted files are circulating on the internet. Earlier this week, Wikileaks announced it had released 133,887 cables in a batch, saying it wanted to "get as much of the material as possible into the hands of journalists and human rights lawyers who need it". It said publishing en masse was the only "internally rational action", because the Guardian had already made public the password used to access the encrypted data online. Wikileaks has started legal action against the paper. It emerged that in many cases, no identifying names had been removed. On Thursday, it ran an online poll asking whether it should release the remaining files and said the response was "over 100 to 1 in favor". The Guardian has strongly denied responsibility. It said while the password was published in a book seven months ago, it was only ever intended to be a temporary code which would expire within hours. It blamed Wikileaks for a security breach, saying they had had seven months to delete the files if they were concerned. On Thursday, Reporters Without Borders said it was temporarily suspending its mirror site - which holds a backup of Wikileaks documents in case of a website overload or cyberattack - citing concerns for the safety of those involved. "While it has not been demonstrated that lives have so far been put in danger by these revelations, the repercussions they could have for informants, such as dismissal, physical attacks and other reprisals, cannot be neglected," said the group. It said it had "neither the technical, human or financial resources to check each cable" to ensure no-one was identified, so had decided to "play safe". [/release] [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14765837"]Source is BBC[/URL] [quote]Head of State:John Paul II Title:Pope Office telephone:011.3906.6988.3114 Residence telephone:011.3906.6982 Comments:Addressed as "Your Holiness" When calling, ask for Bishop Stanislaw Dziwisz (gee-vitch), the Pope's personal secretary, and explain the reason for the call. [/quote] Somebody send the pope 100 boxes of pizza :v:

[QUOTE=doonbugie2;32077033] Somebody send the pope 100 boxes of pizza :v:[/QUOTE] Send him Mormons instead: [url]http://mormon.org/missionaries/[/url]

Is this the insurance file?

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;32077331]Is this the insurance file?[/QUOTE] Assange wasn't arrested, there was no need to. I'm not sure if that was the green light for them to release the password for it, can someone confirm this?

Well, the Guirdan released the password, so it's not really wikileaks releasing all of this.

[QUOTE=doonbugie2;32077033] Somebody send the pope 100 boxes of pizza :v:[/QUOTE] I don't want to be the dick of the moment, but I find that joke in bad taste. I mean, I agree with Wikileak's philosophy that corporations and governments should be transparent and open, but I also believe that each individual person shouldn't have to face personal harassment as a result of transparency. I personally don't know the Pope, but I can infer that he's a pious and genuine man. Does his ascendance to the most respected position of the Catholic Church mean he should be ridiculed and disrespected? Just my $.02

Considering the atrocities of the catholic church and his attempts to hide them I'd say why not

This is why the US government refused to help redact the documents and instead demanded their destruction. Thanks for putting people's lives on the line in order to change....what exactly? Pretty sure things are still going exactly the same as they always were, except now innocent people are in danger. Great job.

[QUOTE=SuppliesAttack;32077470] Does his ascendance to the most respected position of the Catholic Church mean he should be ridiculed and disrespected?[/QUOTE] Yes [editline]2nd September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=GunFox;32077667]This is why the US government refused to help redact the documents and instead demanded their destruction. Thanks for putting people's lives on the line in order to change....what exactly? Pretty sure things are still going exactly the same as they always were, except now innocent people are in danger. Great job.[/QUOTE] How is this putting lives on the line?

[QUOTE=amute;32077670] How is this putting lives on the line?[/QUOTE] All the redactions? Not there. Every name that was ever put in any of those cables is now open, including confidential sources.

Fucking idiots what are they bloody thinking? Transparency is fine when handled PROPERLY but neither Assange or any other Wikileaks staff have shown and maturity over the last few days. [editline]2nd September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=GunFox;32077711]All the redactions? Not there. Every name that was ever put in any of those cables is now open, including confidential sources.[/QUOTE] Blood shall be on their hands.

[QUOTE=doonbugie2;32077033] Somebody send the pope 100 boxes of pizza :v:[/QUOTE] Pope John Paul II's been dead since 2005.

[QUOTE=GunFox;32077711]All the redactions? Not there. Every name that was ever put in any of those cables is now open, including confidential sources.[/QUOTE] So? It hasn't happened yet, or even close to happening yet.

[QUOTE=amute;32077863]So? It hasn't happened yet, or even close to happening yet.[/QUOTE] It's fucking reckless.

[QUOTE=GunFox;32077667]This is why the US government refused to help redact the documents and instead demanded their destruction. Thanks for putting people's lives on the line in order to change....what exactly? Pretty sure things are still going exactly the same as they always were, except now innocent people are in danger. Great job.[/QUOTE] This is why I don't like Wikileaks. Yeah they want to spread the truth, but they can start wars when they do. They release all the non redacted files which include personal information, why don't the ones releasing these files do the same to themselves?

[QUOTE=MachiniOs;32077741]Fucking idiots what are they bloody thinking? Transparency is fine when handled PROPERLY but neither Assange or any other Wikileaks staff have shown and maturity over the last few days. [editline]2nd September 2011[/editline] Blood shall be on their hands.[/QUOTE] Transparency is fine when handled properly? Define.

[QUOTE=MachiniOs;32077883]It's fucking reckless.[/QUOTE] What the US government does is 100 times more reckless than exposing them. [editline]2nd September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=ZF911;32077915]This is why I don't like Wikileaks. Yeah they want to spread the truth, but they can start wars when they do. They release all the non redacted files which include personal information, why don't the ones releasing these files do the same to themselves?[/QUOTE] Because the ones releasing these files aren't doing shady government work and coverups.

[QUOTE=amute;32077980]What the US government does is 100 times more reckless than exposing them. [/QUOTE] Whatever it takes to stick it to the government, right?

[QUOTE=Jim_Riley;32078033]Whatever it takes to stick it to the government, right?[/QUOTE] Ignore Amute, he never actually has a real point. He just hates any and all forms of authority anywhere. There is nothing that you can say or do that will make him do anything other than blindly yell shit about the US government being evil/stupid/imperialistic. We can all save ourselves a headache and just ignore him.

[QUOTE=amute;32077980]Because the ones releasing these files aren't doing shady government work and coverups.[/QUOTE] Except when most of the stuff doesn't include a coverup or consipracy :~)

[QUOTE=SuppliesAttack;32077470]I personally don't know the Pope, but I can infer that he's a pious and genuine man.[/QUOTE] there's nothing pious in hiding and allowing child molesters to escape from the law and there's nothing pious in doing something as incredibly evil as saying condoms are bad and will send you to hell.

I find this funny.

[QUOTE=GunFox;32078062]Ignore Amute, he never actually has a real point. He just hates any and all forms of authority anywhere. There is nothing that you can say or do that will make him do anything other than blindly yell shit about the US government being evil/stupid/imperialistic. We can all save ourselves a headache and just ignore him.[/QUOTE] "What the US government does is 100 times more reckless than exposing them." Sorry, would have thought this could have at least be misconstrued as an actual point. Blindly? Yeah, okay, when faced in a news story of them actually doing wrong, you can fucking hardly call it blindly. As opposed to you who will defend any authority as long as they hold a gun. US soldiers killed children? OH NO THEY'RE INNOCENT HEROES LEAVE THEM ALONE WE ARE INFALLIBLE. USA! USA! [QUOTE=Greenen72;32078071]Except when most of the stuff doesn't include a coverup or consipracy :~)[/QUOTE] If you actually read what's released, most of it is just dead articles about nothing. But you do get things like this:[url]http://www.tampabay.com/news/military/war/wikileaks-iraqi-children-in-us-raid-shot-in-head-un-says/1189151[/url] Covering up murders IS important to release and report on.

[QUOTE]a UN investigator in Iraq wrote to the US saying he had information that US troops handcuffed and executed 10 Iraqi civilans, including children, during a raid in 2006 - the soldiers were cleared of wrongdoing but Iraq now says it is reopening the investigation[/QUOTE] These fuckers better be put to justice.

This isn't Wikileaks fault really, the documents have been out there un-redacted for two weeks because someone leaked a password and file. It is a bit dumb they have decided to just dump them on the internet though, not many people knew where to get the un-radacted ones from, they could have just kept releasing them as redacted.

I want to prank call the pope now.

I wonder what phone the Pope has...

[QUOTE=GunFox;32077667] Thanks for putting people's lives on the line in order to change....what exactly? Pretty sure things are still going exactly the same as they always were, except now innocent people are in danger. Great job.[/QUOTE] Blame the Guardian. Those idiots released the password for the archive containing all the cables. There was no point in spending the time to clean out the names in the cables and protect identities. They might as well just release all the cables.

[QUOTE=GoodStuff;32078540]Blame the Guardian. Those idiots released the password for the archive containing all the cables. There was no point in spending the time to clean out the names in the cables and protect identities. They might as well just release all the cables.[/QUOTE] Might've been nice for them to try, rather than just saying "fuck it" and throwing them all out there in a searchable database. They're doing the same thing they went to town on The Guardian for!

[QUOTE=GoodStuff;32078540]Blame the Guardian. Those idiots released the password for the archive containing all the cables. There was no point in spending the time to clean out the names in the cables and protect identities. They might as well just release all the cables.[/QUOTE] And who gave the guardian the password with the wrong instructions as to what it did?