Writing Songs advice. - General

G'day, I recently joined my friends band as the bassist, and we dont really have any songs right now to play of our own. We've been playing loads of covers especially Nirvana, but I really want some advice on how to write some of my own songs. Btw, I'm not a dumbass when it comes to writing.

Don't write something just for the money. Try to make something that reflects your real emotions on something. And since your a bassist have a kickass bass solo in it.

[QUOTE=pie_is_good;16252322]Don't write something just for the money. Try to make something that reflects your real emotions on something. And since your a bassist have a kickass bass solo in it.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I was thinking of the theme of High-School woes and silly sloths like that.

Okay but don't make it too whiny and full of teen-angst, unless you want your fanbase made up of scene kids.

[QUOTE=Piggah;16252246]G'day, I recently joined my friends band as the bassist, and we dont really have any songs right now to play of our own. We've been playing loads of covers especially Nirvana, but I really want some advice on how to write some of my own songs. Btw, I'm not a dumbass when it comes to writing.[/QUOTE] If you're not a dumbass at writing music, but you want help, isn't that a bit contradictory?

He's talking about his ability to write words.

[QUOTE=ghuh;16252484]If you're not a dumbass at writing music, but you want help, isn't that a bit contradictory?[/QUOTE] Sorry, I meant as in writing, in a descriptive sense... Ie, I pass my English exams.

Well, if you use a thesaurus for every word you use then people will think you're a really smart and creative band, no matter how bad the song topic is. Sort of like Tool or something.

Song writing like..music? or just lyrics

Please for the love of god do NOT write corny lyrics.

[QUOTE=enjoi10;16253475]Please for the love of god do NOT write corny lyrics.[/QUOTE] Surely they can't be any more corny than simple plan. [quote]I'm just a kid and life is a nightmare I'm just a kid, I know that its not fair Nobody cares, cause I'm alone and the world is Having more fun than me Tonight...[/quote] [quote]To be hurt To feel lost To be left out in the dark To be kicked when you're down To feel like you've been pushed around To be on the edge of breaking down And no one's there to save you No you don't know what it's like Welcome to my life[/quote] Most of their songs are like this.

Write about an experience, new things that have happened. Usually i just get a random sentence pop in my head, which can spark a song.

[QUOTE=Molotov;16253568]i... hate ... simple plan... rage... keep inside..[/QUOTE] There's this one kid in my school who likes simple plan and he's always wearing a dumb hat and i was like hey you have a dumb hat and he said no you have a dumb hat and i wasn't wearing a hat so i laughed and shit in his hat.

[QUOTE=pie_is_good;16253626]There's this one kid in my school who likes simple plan and he's always wearing a dumb hat and i was like hey you have a dumb hat and he said no you have a dumb hat and i wasn't wearing a hat so i laughed and shit in his hat.[/QUOTE] I can't imagine you taking this kids hat off, ripping your pants off and landing a steamy brick in it.

write lyrics like these [quote]People won't be people when they hear this sound That's been glowing in the dark at the edge of town People won't be people, no The people won't be people when they hear this sound Won't you show me what begins at the edge of town The singer is a crook The singer is a crook The singer is a crook The singer is a crook The kitchen is the cook The scissors are the barbers The singer is a crook The chorus, full of actors The chorus doesn't matter[/quote]

[QUOTE=Molotov;16253650]I can't imagine you taking this kids hat off, ripping your pants off and landing a steamy brick in it.[/QUOTE] Well I did, and he got suspended for it.

[QUOTE=thisispain;16253658]write lyrics like these[/QUOTE] Please don't. That's alot of meaningless blabble and repeats. if that was a sarcasm post i acknowledged it but took seriously

[QUOTE=Molotov;16253673]Please don't. That's alot of meaningless blabble and repeats. if that was a sarcasm post i acknowledged it but took seriously[/QUOTE] meaningless? good sir, how do you expect to write good lyrics, when you cannot even comprehend good lyrics?

To write the actual music you either have to learn music theory or just play what sounds good and fits the emotion and mood of the piece.

I suggest you start writing poetry, if you want to refine your ability to write lyrics. Just write whatever comes to mind. Then work on rhythm and syllable count. As it gets more complex, shake up the structure, changing rhythmic styles and patterns. If you think you're good enough and can get away with it, work with making a few arhythmic passages. As you get better at this, and you begin writing lyrics/poems like this naturally, you can then take it whatever direction you want, thematically, conceptually, and stylistically. Just my two cents, of course.

[QUOTE=Molotov;16253568]Write about an experience, new things that have happened. Usually i just get a random sentence pop in my head, which can spark a song.[/QUOTE] This. Or sometimes you'll write the music first and the words will come to you. Don't try too hard or it won't sound natural.

...or you could do like Mastodon and write lyrics that don't make sense!

[QUOTE]Calling tears from deep inside, oh, you're so exquisite And in the mirror, all midnight eyes Oh, if I could remain, but it's just a visit All midnight eyes read "vacancy" Twisted, twisting To the lovely dancing lights, I begged, "May I cut in?" But they never stopped playing "their song" Of a joyous song they sing, I've heard whispers On a freezing note, I resonate Just like romantic verses, just like a joyous end Just like a memory, it twists me Just like romantic verses, just like a joyous end Twist... twisting me You land as lightly as the new snow, cinematic Onto the melting boy, and melt away You light as gently, you're so cinematic Bathed in your radiance, I melt In the glitter, in the dark, sunk into velvet Praying this will never end In the shadow of a star, in static pallor I realized I never began Just like romantic verses, just like a joyous end Just like a memory, it twists me Just like romantic verses, just like a joyous end Twist... twisting me You land as lightly as the new snow, cinematic Onto the melting boy, and melt away You light as gently, you're so cinematic Bathed in your radiance, I melt All the colours upon leaving, all will turn to grey All the colours upon leaving, all will turn to grey (All grey) All the colours (All grey) upon leaving (All grey) all will turn to grey (All grey) All the colours (All grey) upon leaving (All grey) all will turn to grey... grey... twisting me You land as lightly as the new snow, cinematic Onto the melting boy, and melt away You light as gently, you're so cinematic Bathed in your radiance You land as lightly as the new snow, cinematic You land as lightly as the new snow, and melt away You land as lightly as the new snow, cinematic Bathed in your radiance, I melt[/QUOTE] Write stuff like this.

that makes even less sense than Atlas

It makes perfect sense, you just can't think hard enough.

[QUOTE=ghuh;16255972]It makes perfect sense, you just can't think hard enough.[/QUOTE] You need tools for that.

No offence but as the bassist you probably wont be too involved in song writing.

[quote]Nobody told me to live Nobody told me to die A pipe dream in its prime It wasn't a better time We have forever in the making And we can take our time And when the time is up We still have a chance And we have forever in the making Forever Only one Satisfied[/quote] Yeah

Also, for the actual music part, may I suggest grade 3 Harmony?

[QUOTE=ghuh;16255972]It makes perfect sense, you just can't think hard enough.[/QUOTE] oh fuck no It's pretty obvious what he's saying, it just doesn't make sense.