Google and Verizon in Talks on Selling Internet Priority
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oh fuck oh fuck
[quote] Google and Verizon, two leading players in Internet service and content, are nearing an agreement that could allow Verizon to speed some online content to Internet users more quickly if the content’s creators are willing to pay for the privilege.
The charges could be paid by companies, like YouTube, owned by Google, for example, to Verizon, one of the nation’s leading Internet service providers, to ensure that its content received priority as it made its way to consumers. The agreement could eventually lead to higher charges for Internet users.
Such an agreement could overthrow a once-sacred tenet of Internet policy known as net neutrality, in which no form of content is favored over another. In its place, consumers could soon see a new, tiered system, which, like cable television, imposes higher costs for premium levels of service.[/quote]
Read the full article at [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/05/technology/05secret.html[/url]
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[QUOTE]like YouTube[/QUOTE]
ha
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Well, I used to like Google. Unless their talking only involves "No no fuck no", fuck this, we're gonna run this shit into the ground. Almost time to jump ship, gents.
i always thought google was for net neutrality
fuck verizion is my isp :frown:
I swear if the Internet turns into something where you have to pay more for different content, then I am going to start firebombing some ISP's.
Literally. I will go over to the headquarters and burn that shit down.
I don't see any problem with this.
In-case you didn't know, government e-mail and such is already being prioritized.
Businesses could also use this. This is a great thing and will not effect your internet.
nothing matters for capitalism
Time to cancel your services and blacklist googles servers gentlement
if they don't slow down anything then i don't really care
[QUOTE=Heroms;23839424]I don't see any problem with this.
In-case you didn't know, government e-mail and such is already being prioritized.
Businesses could also use this. This is a great thing and will not effect your internet.[/QUOTE]
Having to pay, as an example, to upload certain filesizes to youtube doesn't affect the majority of people's internet usage?
Sure ok
Or rather, having to pay extra to get a good speed on youtube for example.
Honestly would this fly with people? I remember Time Warner Cable trying to start a tiered payment plan for capped download speeds and people flipped shit, the towns they used to test the plan on also flipped shit and dropped their service. Would people seriously be like "Yeah sure charge me exorbitant amounts of money for something I got for free yesterday."?
And who's going to pay for youtube honestly? It's whole selling point is that it's a free streaming video service with a hefty amount of content anyone can contribute to. It's not exactly fucking HBO On Demand now is it? The only people I could see willing to pay money to go on youtube would be the "Youtube Celebrity" fans of which I'm sure less than a third would actually pay to hear Ray William Johnson's commentary on the latest fat lady on a bike video.
It just seems a little unbelievable that net neutrality would be thrown out the window just like that.
[QUOTE=Lazor;23839446]if they don't slow down anything then i don't really care[/QUOTE]
They only have so much bandwidth to go around. Speeding up one thing is necessarily at the cost of another.
[QUOTE=imaguy;23839463]Having to pay, as an example, to upload certain filesizes to youtube doesn't affect the majority of people's internet usage?
Sure ok[/QUOTE]
No, that's not what this does.
This will enable companies like google pay service providers to ensure that their content get's priority upon delivery to the end client. (In youtube's case, video streaming)
[quote]allow Verizon to speed some online content to Internet users more quickly if the content’s creators are willing to pay for the privilege.[/quote]
ITT: People who can't read and don't know how the internet works.
[QUOTE=Heroms;23839565]No, that's not what this does.
This will enable companies like google pay service providers to ensure that their content get's priority upon delivery to the end client. (In youtube's case, video streaming)
ITT: People who can't read and don't know how the internet works.[/QUOTE]
It is completely unnecessary. Big companies like youtube shouldn't be faster at the expense of smaller websites who couldn't afford the boost so to speak.
[QUOTE=imaguy;23839635]It is completely unnecessary. Big companies like youtube shouldn't be faster at the expense of smaller websites who couldn't afford the boost so to speak.[/QUOTE]
Oh man I fucking laughed, you're new to this aren't you?
Or for that matter, another big website with lots of regular traffic who didn't pay the fee. Presumably a million fees for every provider in the world.
Imagine if Garry had to pay Verizon to ensure quality of service for their users on FP.
Just waiting to see the riots that happen outside of Google and verizon if this goes through.
[QUOTE=BmB;23839671]Or for that matter, another big website with lots of regular traffic who didn't pay the fee. Presumably a million fees for every provider in the world.
Imagine if Garry had to pay Verizon to ensure quality of service for their users on FP.[/QUOTE]
>Implying the facepunch servers aren't already shit
Really this isn't going to impact anything by a lot and would have come into play much sooner if net neutrality wasn't an issue.
[QUOTE=SwissArmyKnife;23839494]Giant rant[/QUOTE]
You have no idea what you're talking about.
wtf man no
Yeah one provider isn't going to be that much of an impact. Wait 'till it gets popular and you have to pay every provider to not get throttled into oblivion by the combined throttling of them all.
In the next decade or so we should be making a switch into fiber optic cabling anyway which will speed shit up a ton and won't cost as much to the consumer.
Fiber optic connections ain't gonna help shit when the connection is being throttled at the other end. Think for a second.
[QUOTE=sonicrjk;23839670]Oh man I fucking laughed,[/QUOTE]
congrats, you have a shit sense of humor
You're underestimating how fast packages get sent across the internet. The throttle will make a difference of less than 5 seconds.
[QUOTE=Heroms;23839424]I don't see any problem with this.
In-case you didn't know, government e-mail and such is already being prioritized.
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That's not technically a wide-area network. It's like saying I'm violating net neutrality rules by transferring data from one PC to another on my own network at one hundred times the speed that they could access the internet.
[QUOTE=imaguy;23839875]congrats, you have a shit sense of humor[/QUOTE]
:ironicat:
I was laughing at your stupidity.
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