• Man who steals a Qur'an and burns it gets 70 days, shouts "what about burning poppies?"
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:siren:[highlight]He got a seperate punishment for the theft, a 30-day imprisonment to run concurrently. The 70 days were entirely for burning the book.[/highlight]:siren: [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1378172/Andrew-Ryan-jailed-70-days-setting-Koran-What-burning-poppies.html[/url] [quote]A man has been jailed for 70 days today after he burnt a copy of the Koran just over a month after a Muslim got away with a paltry £50 fine for a similar offence. Andrew Ryan, 32, stole a copy of the holy book from Carlisle Library then set it on fire by a monument in the city of Carlisle. Last month Emdadur Choudhury was fined after he burned a poppy outside the Royal Albert Hall in London on Remembrance Day while shouting 'British soldiers burn in hell'. As he was led down to the cells, Ryan shouted at the judge at Carlisle Magistrates' Court today: 'What about burning poppies?'. Police arrested Ryan shortly the Koran burning in English Street on January 19. Sentencing him at Carlisle Magistrates' Court, District Judge Gerald Chalk said: 'This is a case of theatrical bigotry. It was pre-planned by you as you stole the book deliberately. You went out to cause maximum publicity and to cause distress.' He told Ryan that people were entitled to protest but not in the manner he chose. The court heard the defendant had six public order convictions between 2002 and 2010 including racial chanting at a football match and assault with intent to resist arrest. Judge Chalk said: 'You are a man who has a history of violence and disorderly conduct.' Ryan pleaded guilty to religiously aggravated harassment and theft at an earlier hearing. Prior to the hearing, a Facebook page created by the 'English Defence League Carlisle Division' urged visitors to support 'Division Member' Around 10 men sat in the public gallery but walked out when District Judge Chalk announced the sentence. Comments of 'what a joke' and 'call that justice' were made as they left the courtroom. Before he was led to the cells, Ryan said: 'What about burning poppies?' The court was told that Ryan's former probation officer witnessed him shouting and waving a book at Carlisle Cross outside the Old Town Hall in the city centre. Ryan told him he intended to burn the Koran in a protest against the Muslim faith. He failed in his first attempt with matches before he succeeded with a lighter. Ryan then continued to shout abuse about the Muslim faith as he held the burning book, before he threw it to the floor and walked away, the court heard. He then updated his Facebook page to reveal what he had done. When arrested and interviewed by police, Ryan told officers: 'I just hope I have not caused World War Three.' Margaret Payne, defending, said: 'Mr Ryan has said to me that the incident was silly and it is not something he would do again. 'He wants to make it clear that it was directed towards radical Islam such as the burning of poppies and flags. 'He would certainly not want Muslim people to think he had problems with their beliefs. 'Mr Ryan was brought up to respect the Armed Forces. Some members of his family were in the Armed Forces and he himself served in the Army between the ages of 16 and 20 in Northern Ireland. 'What caused him to 'lose it' on that day was that he had been looking at a website which had shown radical people burning poppies and abusing British troops returning from abroad.' Carlisle Magistrates' Court: Ryan was sentenced to 70 days in prison where he was told by the judge: 'This is a case of theatrical bigotry' The defendant joined the library with the intention of borrowing the Koran but instead stole it. His solicitor said the incident was relatively short and he acted alone. Unemployed Ryan was also sentenced to 30 days in jail for the theft of the book, to run concurrently. Following sentencing, Inspector Paul Marshall, of Carlisle CID, said: 'Today's result shows how seriously we take hate crime in the county. 'This incident was highly unusual for Cumbria as we have such low levels of hate crime in the county. 'However, when it does occur we investigate thoroughly so that offenders, and the local community, know that hate crime will simply not be tolerated.'[/quote] Maybe he should build an underwater city.
[quote]Andrew Ryan, 32, [b]stole a copy of the holy book from Carlisle Library[/b] then set it on fire by a monument in the city of Carlisle.[/quote] At least buy a copy of the book, you cretin. :colbert:
...Soooo....he's in jail now. Wait...did he look like this? [img]http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/208/5/b/Andrew_Ryan_by_Pirate_Cashoo.jpg[/img]
well yes freedom of speech is incredibly important and should always be preserved but he did steal a qur'an (a book most people have not even read) from a bloody library (which are already facing huge cuts) and not even because he was hungry or because he had no choice (stealing isn't as bad in that circumstance) but he did it just to be a giant cunt not saying the ruling is just, but it does make you think
Burning the Qur'an is a bit extreme in my opinion.
[QUOTE=MeMassiveFag;29280497]Burning the Qur'an is a bit extreme in my opinion.[/QUOTE] Burning [i]any[/i] book is extreme.
Quoting this for all the morans who are going to come in this thread and complain about how much of an injustice this is without actually reading the article: [quote][b]The court heard the defendant had six public order convictions between 2002 and 2010 including racial chanting at a football match and assault with intent to resist arrest. Judge Chalk said: 'You are a man who has a history of violence and disorderly conduct.'[/b][/quote] There's no reason him shouting "what about burning poppies" warrants its own news article and this is a great example of how a news organization can exhibit political bias simply by choosing what to call news, without having to twist facts or lie
According to the judge, shouting "British soldiers burn in hell" and burning a poppy on remembrance day doesn't count as theatrical bigotry. :downs:
[QUOTE=MeMassiveFag;29280497]Burning the Qur'an is a bit extreme in my opinion.[/QUOTE] It is, but you shouldnt be arrested for it Stealing the book however, is something that you should be punished for though
No, sir, this isn't 'theatrical bigotry', as I'm pretty sure the poppy burner 1) didn't steal it and 2) hasn't been arrested several times for assault and racial abuse. If there *is* any decent argument for bigotry in the system towards white people (Hint: There isn't), then he's not exactly a shining example.
[QUOTE=TH89;29280559]Quoting this for all the morans who are going to come in this thread and complain about how much of an injustice this is without actually reading the article: There's no reason him shouting "what about burning poppies" warrants its own news article and this is a great example of how a news organization can exhibit political bias simply by choosing what to call news, without having to twist facts or lie[/QUOTE] well it is the daily mail apparently nick griffin happens to be the editor
What about burning poppies? It's an offence to my country and they got off practically scott-free. Someone burns a book and gets jail time, fucking ridiculous...
[QUOTE=Icedshot;29280574]It is, but you shouldnt be arrested for it Stealing the book however, is something that you should be punished for though[/QUOTE] Burning a book has to be one of the worst things a human being can do.
[QUOTE=Kirrimir;29280608]What about burning poppies? It's an offence to my country and they got off practically scott-free. Someone burns a book and gets jail time, fucking ridiculous...[/QUOTE] hello sir i've called to ask if you perhaps wanted a free copy of the daily mail?
[QUOTE=MeMassiveFag;29280497]Burning the Qur'an is a bit extreme in my opinion.[/QUOTE] No it's not. He can do whatever the hell he wants, just like everyone else. But for god sake, buy the fucking book first. [editline]18th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Kirrimir;29280608]What about burning poppies? It's an offence to my country and they got off practically scott-free. Someone burns a book and gets jail time, fucking ridiculous...[/QUOTE] Read. More. Than. The. Title.
[QUOTE=Kirrimir;29280608]What about burning poppies? It's an offence to my country and they got off practically scott-free. Someone burns a book and gets jail time, fucking ridiculous...[/QUOTE] do you want people to go to jail for burning flowers?
how is burning a book extreme in any way that's ridiculous [editline]18th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=VengfulSoldier;29280617]Burning a book has to be one of the worst things a human being can do.[/QUOTE] why
Stealing a important religious book from a public library then lighting it on fire is a dick move. [editline]18th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Sanius;29280676]how is burning a book extreme in any way that's ridiculous [editline]18th April 2011[/editline] why[/QUOTE] Books provide knowledge and opinions to the masses. Burning them is just showing your massive ignorance to the public.
[QUOTE=Sanius;29280676]how is burning a book extreme in any way that's ridiculous [editline]18th April 2011[/editline] why[/QUOTE] The willful destruction of knowledge. It's an unsettlingly symbolic and deplorable act fueled by ignorance and stupidity.
true story i once burnt a book because it was winter and i was cold
[QUOTE=Sanius;29280676]how is burning a book extreme in any way that's ridiculous [editline]18th April 2011[/editline] why[/QUOTE] A book is source of knowledge, no matter what it says inside. Read Fahrenheit 451
[QUOTE=ThatHippyMan;29280749]The willful destruction of knowledge. It's an unsettlingly symbolic and deplorable act fueled by ignorance and stupidity.[/QUOTE] that's some tree-hugging bullshit thinking burning a mass-produced book is completely meaningless and harmless
[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;29280335]Maybe he should build an underwater city.[/QUOTE] Would you kindly burn the Qu'ran?
[QUOTE=Sanius;29280776]that's some tree-hugging bullshit thinking[/QUOTE] well if you were tree-hugging you'd be against books and you'd burn them to be against the mass-paper industry
[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;29280723]Burning them is just showing your massive ignorance to the public.[/QUOTE] really? what does burning a book make you unknowing of?
[QUOTE=Sanius;29280776]that's some tree-hugging bullshit thinking burning a mass-produced book is completely meaningless and harmless[/QUOTE] The act is not what they burn, but just the burning itself.
[QUOTE=Sanius;29280776]that's some tree-hugging bullshit thinking[/QUOTE] What.
[QUOTE=Sanius;29280807]really? what does burning a book make you unknowing of?[/QUOTE] Its know unknowing, its a showing that you are unwilling to learn.
[QUOTE=VengfulSoldier;29280836]Its know unknowing, its a showing that you are unwilling to learn.[/QUOTE] what the fuck does that even mean
[QUOTE=Sanius;29280849]what the fuck does that even mean[/QUOTE] :frog:
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