Saudi Arabia may put an end to public beheadings - replace them with lovely humane firing squads of - Polidicks

[img]http://imgkk.com/i/s9bu.jpg[/img] [I]Death sentences are currently carried out by beheading in a public square in the oil-rich kingdom[/I] [url]http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/03/2013310151222663808.html[/url] [quote]A ministerial committee is looking into formally dropping public beheadings as a method of execution in Saudi Arabia, a local newspaper has reported. The authoritative daily Al-Watan said in its Sunday edition that the ministerial committee was considering fatal shootings as an alternative. There was no official confirmation immediately available of the newspaper's report.[/quote]

"Good news! We just got informed that you will not be beheaded. So...walk over to that tree so we can have 10 officers shoot you"

Which one is more painless, I wonder.

Progress, I guess?

I'd say be-headings are the more painless way to go, assuming they use a guillotine.

This vaguely counts as progress!

[QUOTE=Orkel;39869400]Which one is more painless, I wonder.[/QUOTE] Beheading, depending on how they do it.

Depends on how fast the brain ceases activity, usually a bullet to the brain causes the person to die near instantly due to shock and damage to brain tissue, or at least pass out until death a few moments later. Be-heading just cuts off the blood supply and allows blood to drain from the head, essentially it is like choking the person to death, but faster and the shock of it happening could cause the person to pass out at least. In some cases, since the brain is still intact it can remain active for a matter of minutes. To be honest, I'd rate them about the same, though beheading is probably more gruesome.

gotta progress an inch at a time i guess

Fuck. Snip.

[QUOTE=axelord157;39869428]This vaguely counts as progress![/QUOTE] In the most twisted backwards sense of the word

I saw some fucked up video where this asshole taliban beheaded an us soldier, his head took more than 4 slices to be completely cut which lets me think that firing squad is alot more gruesome and hurts less.

Real beheadings with a sword or ax are usually very gruesome and takes more than one hit to decapitate, unlike the movies where every villain is an expert beheader and can take a head off with one swing of any weapon.

[QUOTE=draugur;39869440]Depends on how fast the brain ceases activity, usually a bullet to the brain causes the person to die near instantly due to shock and damage to brain tissue, or at least pass out until death a few moments later. Be-heading just cuts off the blood supply and allows blood to drain from the head, essentially it is like choking the person to death, but faster and the shock of it happening could cause the person to pass out at least. In some cases, since the brain is still intact it can remain active for a matter of minutes. To be honest, I'd rate them about the same, though beheading is probably more gruesome.[/QUOTE] False; it's just a myth that's perpetuated throughout the years. There's no evidence that the brain is alive for any period of time past the beheading.

[QUOTE=wanksta11;39869505]I saw some fucked up video where this asshole taliban beheaded an us soldier, his head took more than 4 slices to be completely cut which lets me think that firing squad is alot more gruesome and hurts less.[/QUOTE] well that made me feel like shit now poor guy

[QUOTE=Orkel;39869400]Which one is more painless, I wonder.[/QUOTE] Potentially beheading if it's clean, but if they miss a few times... eugh

At least they are admitting the current way of doing things is not the best way.

Beheading is painless if done with a guillotine. Being shot at and hoping they don't decidedly miss your heart is worse.. if I was going to be executed I'd want a guillotine.

[QUOTE=draugur;39869440]Depends on how fast the brain ceases activity, usually a bullet to the brain causes the person to die near instantly due to shock and damage to brain tissue, or at least pass out until death a few moments later. Be-heading just cuts off the blood supply and allows blood to drain from the head, essentially it is like choking the person to death, but faster and the shock of it happening could cause the person to pass out at least. In some cases, since the brain is still intact it can remain active for a matter of minutes. To be honest, I'd rate them about the same, though beheading is probably more gruesome.[/QUOTE] It takes just a few seconds for all of the blood in your head to be drained out after a beheading (if it's done instantly), and brain activity practically ceases immediately.

[QUOTE=TAU!;39869844]It takes just a few seconds for all of the blood in your head to be drained out after a beheading (if it's done instantly), and brain activity practically ceases immediately.[/QUOTE] So, did they even take a step forward with this shit then?

In other news they promise to use eco-friendly non-lead ammunition.

[QUOTE=Edthefirst;39869724]False; it's just a myth that's perpetuated throughout the years. There's no evidence that the brain is alive for any period of time past the beheading.[/QUOTE] It doesn't even make sense - the blood pressure in your head would drop the moment your main arteries are cut. Hence, you lose consciousness faster than your brain can register what the fuck is going on. [editline]11th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=TAU!;39869844]It takes just a few seconds for all of the blood in your head to be drained out after a beheading (if it's done instantly), and brain activity practically ceases immediately.[/QUOTE] AFAIK, they behead people by sword, not guillotine. I.e. the head is almost never cut off with one swipe.

[QUOTE=Edthefirst;39869724]False; it's just a myth that's perpetuated throughout the years. There's no evidence that the brain is alive for any period of time past the beheading.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillotine#Living_heads[/url] [quote]Here, then, is what I was able to note immediately after the decapitation: the eyelids and lips of the guillotined man worked in irregularly rhythmic contractions for about five or six seconds. This phenomenon has been remarked by all those finding themselves in the same conditions as myself for observing what happens after the severing of the neck … I waited for several seconds. The spasmodic movements ceased. […] [b]It was then that I called in a strong, sharp voice: "Languille!" I saw the eyelids slowly lift up, without any spasmodic contractions[/b] – I insist advisedly on this peculiarity – but with an even movement, quite distinct and normal, such as happens in everyday life, with people awakened or torn from their thoughts. [b]Next Languille's eyes very definitely fixed themselves on mine and the pupils focused themselves. I was not, then, dealing with the sort of vague dull look without any expression, that can be observed any day in dying people to whom one speaks: I was dealing with undeniably living eyes which were looking at me. After several seconds, the eyelids closed again […].[/b] It was at that point that I called out again and, once more, without any spasm, slowly, the eyelids lifted and undeniably living eyes fixed themselves on mine with perhaps even more penetration than the first time. Then there was a further closing of the eyelids, but now less complete. I attempted the effect of a third call; there was no further movement – and the eyes took on the glazed look which they have in the dead.[/quote] [editline]10th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Stopper;39869918]It doesn't even make sense - the blood pressure in your head would drop the moment your main arteries are cut. Hence, you lose consciousness faster than your brain can register what the fuck is going on. [editline]11th March 2013[/editline] AFAIK, they behead people by sword, not guillotine. I.e. the head is almost never cut off with one swipe.[/QUOTE] Yeah your blood drains, but there's still some oxygenated blood absorbed by your tissue sitting in there.

[QUOTE=mblunk;39869951][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillotine#Living_heads[/url] [editline]10th March 2013[/editline] Yeah your blood drains, but there's still some oxygenated blood absorbed by your tissue sitting in there.[/QUOTE] [quote]Anatomists and other scientists in several countries have tried to perform more definitive experiments on severed human heads as recently as 1956.[citation needed] Inevitably, the evidence is only anecdotal. What appears to be a head responding to the sound of its name, or to the pain of a pinprick, may be only random muscle twitching or automatic reflex action, with no awareness involved. At the very least, it seems that the massive drop in cerebral blood pressure would cause a victim to lose consciousness in a few seconds[/quote] okay

It doesn't matter to the dying person whether they die of bullet or a sharp instrument to the neck. The death comes in a few seconds regardless of the method. However a firing squad is much more easier and humane for the executioners. The squad shares the blame for the executed's death, and no one can tell whose was the killing shot. Instead of one person having to deal with hacking through a person's neck with a blade.

[QUOTE=mblunk;39869951][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillotine#Living_heads[/url] [editline]10th March 2013[/editline] Yeah your blood drains, but there's still some oxygenated blood absorbed by your tissue sitting in there.[/QUOTE] That's nothing but speculation based on an unconfirmed personal account. Skilled UFC fighters can choke out other people in seconds by cutting their blow flow. A beheading is the same but on steroids and much more complete, everything's permanently severed.

[QUOTE=ThePuska;39870132]It doesn't matter to the dying person whether they die of bullet or a sharp instrument to the neck. The death comes in a few seconds regardless of the method. However a firing squad is much more easier and humane for the executioners. The squad shares the blame for the executed's death, and no one can tell whose was the killing shot. Instead of one person having to deal with hacking through a person's neck with a blade.[/QUOTE] What if they strapped explosives to somebodies head? Would that not be humane, I know its messy but wouldn't that ensure instant death?

This is technological advancement in the Islamic world.

[QUOTE=laserguided;39870186]What if they strapped explosives to somebodies head? Would that not be humane, I know its messy but wouldn't that ensure instant death?[/QUOTE] Considering the detonation velocity is thousands of meters per second for military explosives and even more when propagating in your tissues, yeah, you'd die before you even knew it. Even a few grams would be lethal if detonated against your head.

If they're going to do executions they should at least do it right; with nitrogen asphyxiation.