• mom who took son into hiding to save his foreskin sobs in court as she signs consent for circumcisio
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[QUOTE]WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — A Florida woman jailed in a long-running dispute over her son’s circumcision has been released after nine nights behind bars. Hironimus and her four-year-old-son’s father, Dennis Nebus, have been warring for years over whether to have the boy’s foreskin removed. She initially agreed in a parenting agreement filed in court, then changed her mind, giving way to a long legal fight. Circuit and appellate judges have sided with the father. With her legal options dwindling, Hironimus went missing in February, and ignored a judge’s order that she appear in court and give her consent for the surgery to be performed. A warrant was issued, but she wasn’t located until May 14 at a Broward County shelter where she was staying with her son. Brought before Judge Jeffrey Gillen on Friday, Hironimus again declined to sign a consent form for the surgery, and she was advised she would remain jailed indefinitely. After the hearing recessed and she reconsidered, she reluctantly agreed to sign, sobbing as she put pen to paper.[/QUOTE] [url]www.ottawacitizen.com/health/Heather+Hironimus+intactivist+took+into+hiding+save+foreskin+sobs/11080755/story.html[/url]
What the fuck
Fucking disgusting. Is this what you really call "consent"? He's also not a baby anymore. I seriously hope he sues the fuck out of people who force him to undergo basically mutilation without his consent, especially now.
Appalling.
You wont see a single feminist complain about this. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("shitposting/Why reply?" - Gurant))[/highlight]
[B]WE MUST REMOVE THE TIP OF THIS BOYS DICK YOU WILL COMPLY OR GO TO JAIL[/B]
[QUOTE=Buck.;47806649]You wont see a single feminist complain about this.[/QUOTE] this thread is for horrible SH shitpost arguments on circumcision, not feminism
[QUOTE=Buck.;47806649]You wont see a single feminist complain about this.[/QUOTE] I assumed that an uncircumcised vs circumcised shitstorm would start before anything else, let alone something completely irrelevant.
someone will defend this.
So, the circumcision wasn't for medical reasons? I couldn't find anything rearding the reason from the article other than "its normal".
so why does he need his foreskin circumsized?
[QUOTE=Buck.;47806649]You wont see a single feminist complain about this.[/QUOTE] That's funny I was about to march in and be like "I can't believe they are doing this," and like "what kind of judge doesn't understand the concept of contracts void under duress," and "why doesn't the child get a say in this?"
who the fuck unbanned you
[QUOTE]“If anyone finds out the circumstances under which she signed, a doctor would be insane to carry out that surgery,” she said.[/QUOTE] Its fine to force this pointless cosmetic surgery on an infant but only if you have the mothers consent... never understood this. [QUOTE=Buck.;47806649]You wont see a single feminist complain about this.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=bitches;47806652]this thread is for horrible SH shitpost arguments on circumcision, not feminism[/QUOTE] But you really won't. Thats the problem with mainstream feminism.
[QUOTE=Buck.;47806649]You wont see a single feminist complain about this.[/QUOTE] Hi I consider myself a feminist and think this is bullshit.
[quote]she was advised she would remain jailed indefinitely[/quote] Holy shit. So if she'd not signed that form, she could potentially have spent the [I]rest of her fucking life[/I] in jail? Please tell me I've got this wrong.
It's the father that is demanding it be done, if anyone is wondering.
[quote]A Florida woman jailed in a long-running dispute over her son’s circumcision has been released after nine nights behind bars.[/quote] [quote]Hironimus again declined to sign a consent form for the surgery, and she was advised she would remain jailed indefinitely. [/quote] What the fuck is this bullshit. How is this fair. How is this "justice". Someone explain to me how this isn't fucking exortion in its purest form?
[QUOTE=Buck.;47806649]You wont see a single feminist complain about this.[/QUOTE] Hi, I'm a feminist and I consider this to be absolutely disgusting. The boy's dick is his own and a cosmetic surgery should not be performed until he is of an age to make his own decision, unless medical reasons are involved. In this case they are not, so the kid should be left alone.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;47806691]It's the father that is demanding it be done, if anyone is wondering.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]The father has called circumcision “just the normal thing to do.”[/QUOTE] Tradition is a pretty powerful thing.
The child cannot consent to the circumcision therefore it cannot be performed until he is capable to give consent. This really is a simple concept that they dont seem to understand.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;47806709]Tradition is a pretty powerful thing.[/QUOTE] Indeed. Shame that it is really - we should think rationally about everything we do especially shit like genital mutilation... but nope "it's muh trudision" [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Muh Memeshit" - Big Dumb American))[/highlight]
It should never be up to [I]anyone[/I] to permanently mutilate a child, except in cases where it must be done for the health of the kid. This is horrible.
I came here thinking this was going to be somewhere in the middle east or something. I'm pretty shocked that this is happening in the US. He's four years old now and he's going to remember this for the rest of his life.
Is it just me or does everything happen in Florida? Psychotic dentists and now this. But anyways, give the boy free will as he's old enough to choose.
[QUOTE=TheCreeper;47806733]The child cannot consent to the circumcision therefore it cannot be performed until he is capable to give consent. This really is a simple concept that they dont seem to understand.[/QUOTE] Children can't legally consent to any medical procedure, hence why it's generally the parents choice. I'm sure most people would rather not refuse to vaccinate people until they're 18.
[QUOTE=Sprockethead;47806651][B]WE MUST REMOVE THE TIP OF THIS BOYS DICK YOU WILL COMPLY OR GO TO JAIL[/B][/QUOTE] Oh man Circumbot *du du du duuuu duuuuuu, du du du duuu duuuuu*
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;47806766]Children can't legally consent to any medical procedure, hence why it's generally the parents choice. I'm sure most people would rather not refuse to vaccinate people until they're 18.[/QUOTE] Except this medical procedure is not critical to the childs health therefore it cannot be performed without the consent of the child and since the child cannot consent, they cannot perform the procedure. Its not ok for parents to give consent to perform cosmetic surgery on their children. These people need to be reminded that the child is not the property of the parent, the parent is the guardian of the child.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;47806766]Children can't legally consent to any medical procedure, hence why it's generally the parents choice. I'm sure most people would rather not refuse to vaccinate people until they're 18.[/QUOTE] Well, you have Gillick competence over here where under 16s are able to consent if they are able to understand and comprehend the procedure and risks, so the ability to make a decision moves over to the child when they are mature enough. It was originally a contraception thing, but the idea spread to cover procedures in general. Is there nothing similar in the states? Something like vaccines is a medical procedure for medical reasons, not for cosmetic reasons, so it really doesn't compare. I suppose a tattoo would kind of be a similar thing, as it is cosmetic, though that's not a medical procedure so it's still not great.
Most backwards thing I've read in a long time
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