• Cultural suicide by political correctness?
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I'll keep it short. Political correctness, i feel its the worst enemy of democracy. The Muslim brotherhood (of Egypt) was founded at the 30's with the help of Nazi Germany.. today they control Egypt, affiliated members are part of the American government who influenced a lot in the past years. today, FBI Agents are not allowed to write words as such "jihad, Islam, mujaheddin" in their reports. another issue, is the fully open border between Mexico and the USA. [video=youtube;3ROtUgCvGJM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ROtUgCvGJM[/video] [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eJo5VjUp8k[/URL] [U][B]full movie![/B][/U] Yeah yeah lets skip the "you racist", "it won't happen", "your crazy" replies. mmkay? [highlight](User was banned for this post ("No debate presented" - Megafan))[/highlight]
You seem to have more a beef with Muslims than the political correctness. I don't even understand what any of this has to do with political correctness.
i want sources for all those things
[QUOTE=XD!;37434082]You seem to have more a beef with Muslims than the mexico policy. like literally you just sorta threw out the open border policy without an explanation.[/QUOTE] how do you explain the millions of illegal immigrants at the USA? [url]http://edition.cnn.com/2012/02/21/opinion/granderson-border-security-canada/index.html[/url] [url]http://nation.foxnews.com/culture/2011/05/05/hezbollah-sets-base-near-mexican-border[/url]
[QUOTE=Lyoko2;37434137]how do you explain the millions of illegal immigrants at the USA? [URL]http://edition.cnn.com/2012/02/21/opinion/granderson-border-security-canada/index.html[/URL] [URL]http://nation.foxnews.com/culture/2011/05/05/hezbollah-sets-base-near-mexican-border[/URL][/QUOTE] I editted myself because I watched that video and turns out IT DEALS WITH OPEN BORDERS but thats not the really important part it also deals with muslims. that goes back to my first point that you seem to just have a beef with muslims and not political correctness. hell even the second article deals with muslims.
You don't get it yet, Public officials are letting religious Muslim leaders dictate to the FBI a policy that harms investigations on Muslims. the movie also presents to you the various organizations run by Muslim-Brotherhood affiliated groups that work against hatred towards Muslims and suing random people. so whenever you see someone talks about Muslims, or seeing an article about Muslims, You try to ignore it right away? [B]it's not about Muslims[/B], its about how [U][B]Radical groups exploit[/B][/U] the freedom we give them and then we ignore their actions when they are in office.
[QUOTE=Lyoko2;37434248]You don't get it yet, Public officials are letting religious Muslim leaders dictate to the FBI a policy that harms investigations on Muslims. the movie also presents to you the various organizations run by Muslim-Brotherhood affiliated groups that work against hatred towards Muslims and suing random people. so whenever you see someone talks about Muslims, or seeing an article about Muslims, You try to ignore it right away? it's not about Muslims, its about how Radical groups exploit the freedom we give them and then we ignore their actions when they are in office.[/QUOTE] fuck, who let the ASF back in?
[QUOTE=Lyoko2;37434010] The Muslim brotherhood (of Egypt) was founded at the 30's with the help of Nazi Germany..[B] today they control Egypt, affiliated members are part of the American government who influenced a lot in the past years.[/B][/QUOTE] Oh god you can't be serious in regurgitating the batshit insane conspiracy theories expressed by Michelle Bachmann. Even Republican Senator Jon McCain has spoken out against those unsubstantiated claims [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xASbyLHDd4[/media] [QUOTE=Lyoko2;37434010]today, FBI Agents are not allowed to write words as such "jihad, Islam, mujaheddin" in their reports. [/QUOTE] Show me a single source where it states that the FBI can't say "Islam" in their reports. As others said, it seems your beef is mainly with Muslims and not "political correctness" which is no surprise given your hideous avatar.
[QUOTE=Lyoko2;37434248]You don't get it yet, Public officials are letting religious Muslim leaders dictate to the FBI a policy that harms investigations on Muslims. the movie also presents to you the various organizations run by Muslim-Brotherhood affiliated groups that work against hatred towards Muslims and suing random people. so whenever you see someone talks about Muslims, or seeing an article about Muslims, You try to ignore it right away? [B]it's not about Muslims[/B], its about how [U][B]Radical groups exploit[/B][/U] the freedom we give them and then we ignore their actions when they are in office.[/QUOTE] sources, please
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;37434306]sources, please[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure its Fox News, Storm Front, and Rush Limbaugh. Seriously this isn't even a debate, its just the OP ranting about them damned muslamics.
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;37434323]I'm pretty sure its Fox News, Storm Front, and Rush Limbaugh.[/QUOTE] don't forget prisonplanet and timecube
[QUOTE=Starpluck;37434304]Oh god you can't be serious in regurgitating the batshit insane conspiracy theories expressed by Michelle Bachmann. Even Republican Senator Jon McCain has spoken out against those unsubstantiated claims Show me a single source where it states that the FBI can't say "Islam" in their reports. As others said, it seems your beef is mainly with Muslims and not "political correctness" which is no surprise given your hideous avatar.[/QUOTE] I don't trust McCain, and you asking me for sources, which i cannot get. Seriously. Yes, I am an Israel as my avatar shows, but i already understand your opinions from your avatar. I'm just concerned about the shit that might go on within your country. I love the USA, but most of you live in fantasies and fairy tales. But if you folks don't give a fuck, then nothing i do will ever change your mind. edit: all you care about is [B]avoiding [/B]talking about muslims, WTH. freedom of speech will die soon by your misactions to preserve it. and Freedom itself will eventually be replaced with sharia law. this discussion is over then.
[QUOTE=Lyoko2;37434362]I don't trust McCain, and you asking me for sources, which i cannot get. Seriously. Yes, I am an Israel as my avatar shows, but i already understand your opinions from your avatar. I'm just concerned about the shit that might go on within your country. I love the USA, but most of you live in fantasies and fairy tales. But if you folks don't give a fuck, then nothing i do will ever change your mind. edit: all you care about is [B]avoiding [/B]talking about muslims, WTH. freedom of speech will die soon by your misactions to preserve it. and Freedom itself will eventually be replaced with sharia law. this discussion is over then.[/QUOTE] i love watching people on the internet lose their mind
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;37434389]i love watching people on the internet lose their mind[/QUOTE] I'm calm. You guys don't appreciate what you got. People say that empires come and go.. not my empire anyway, only been admiring it.
[QUOTE=Lyoko2;37434362]I don't trust McCain, and you asking me for sources, which i cannot get. Seriously. Yes, I am an Israel as my avatar shows, but i already understand your opinions from your avatar. I'm just concerned about the shit that might go on within your country. I love the USA, but most of you live in fantasies and fairy tales. But if you folks don't give a fuck, then nothing i do will ever change your mind. edit: all you care about is [B]avoiding [/B]talking about muslims, WTH. freedom of speech will die soon by your misactions to preserve it. and Freedom itself will eventually be replaced with sharia law. this discussion is over then.[/QUOTE] just so you know, none of us are advocating political correctness. We're just pointing out the fact that you hate muslims, and believe in conspiracy theories. Also, how will political correctness lead to sharia law? [editline]27th August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lyoko2;37434434]I'm calm. You guys don't appreciate what you got. People say that empires come and go.. not my empire anyway, only been admiring it.[/QUOTE] Oh no. are you saying that Obama really is the socialist-nazi-muslim everyone talks about? [editline]27th August 2012[/editline] And finally, I think open borders are a good thing. The only bad thing is that they have to go through tunnels and other crazy shit, instead of just walking through a gate.
[QUOTE=Lyoko2;37434362]I don't trust McCain, and you asking me for sources, which i cannot get. Seriously. [/QUOTE] I cited McCain because he's one of the several members of the GOP who's spoken out against these accusations, perpetrated [I]by [/I]the GOP. And are you seriously saying Michelle Bachmann is more credible than John McCain? Really man? [QUOTE=Lyoko2;37434362]Yes, I am an Israel as my avatar shows, but i already understand your opinions from your avatar. I'm just concerned about the shit that might go on within your country. I love the USA, but most of you live in fantasies and fairy tales.[/quote] Uh my avatar is meant to be taken ironically lol, "INHALE FREEDOM, EXHALE PATRIOTISM" is not any way a representation of my opinions. Before you "concern" yourself with that's going on in our country, why don't you concern yourself with the shit that goes into your own country. Go active and petition your government to get rid of that occupation and to stop oppressing Palestinians, which is an inconceivably worse issue in both a regional and global scale, than your little unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.
[QUOTE=The Kakistocrat;37434444]just so you know, none of us are advocating political correctness. We're just pointing out the fact that you hate muslims, and believe in conspiracy theories. Also, how will political correctness lead to sharia law? [/QUOTE] in 30 years Europe will be come Islamic continent, why? they are the fast growing religion, and you might ask yourselves why?? that's because European family consists with 1-3 children per family and Muslim families usually have more than 5 childrens. that means its impossible to stop this process.. kicking them out is illegal and not ethic.. they don't like the courts, they want religious courts that judge by sharia laws.. yeah but numbers are non sense right? just a conspiracy theory. [QUOTE=The Kakistocrat;37434444][editline]27th August 2012[/editline] Oh no. are you saying that Obama really is the socialist-nazi-muslim everyone talks about? [/QUOTE] what? [editline]28th August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Starpluck;37434518]I cited McCain because he's one of the several members of the GOP who's spoken out against these accusations, perpetrated [I]by [/I]the GOP. And are you seriously saying Michelle Bachmann is more credible than John McCain? Really man? Uh my avatar is meant to be taken ironically lol, "INHALE FREEDOM, EXHALE PATRIOTISM" is not any way a representation of my opinions. Before you "concern" yourself with that's going on in our country, why don't you concern yourself with the shit that goes into your own country. Go active and petition your government to get rid of that occupation and to stop oppressing Palestinians, which is an inconceivably worse issue in both a regional and global scale, than your little unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.[/QUOTE] opressing palestinians? [URL]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g660378-West_Bank_and_Gaza-Hotels.html[/URL]
I know it's probably against the rules to make a post that doesn't present an argument. But I think it's accurate to point out that the OP is just another shit-scared xenophobe apologist trying to scratch together a non-debate.
[QUOTE=Lyoko2;37434540]opressing palestinians? [URL]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g660378-West_Bank_and_Gaza-Hotels.html[/URL][/QUOTE] Is this a serious rebuttal? Because there's HOTELS in Gaza and Palestine, suddenly they aren't being oppressed anymore, nope. No occupation, no settlement expansion, no home demolitions, no destruction of water/solar supply, no indiscriminate bombings simply because there's some hotels in Gaza and the West Bank.
[QUOTE=Lyoko2;37434540] opressing palestinians? [URL]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g660378-West_Bank_and_Gaza-Hotels.html[/URL][/QUOTE] I'm sure there are some nice hotels in China and Syria. They must not have any oppression huh?
[QUOTE=Starpluck;37434744]Is this a serious rebuttal? Because there's HOTELS in Gaza and Palestine, suddenly they aren't being oppressed anymore, nope. No occupation, no settlement expansion, no home demolitions, no destruction of water/solar supply, no indiscriminate bombings simply because there's some hotels in Gaza and the West Bank.[/QUOTE] we give them free electricity, water supply, they got factories at the west bank. but gaza is totally hostile, firing rockets on our cities, we usually kill the responsible when they drive, not at their homes with their families. we have solid intel at gaza, UAV's, satelites. but when gaza's goverment. Hamas recieves billions from around the world and has stable economy to build malls and more hotels and you keep blaming us for shit.. gaza is an independent country. seriously, but it doesn't has it's own electricity supply and water supply, we give them extra food daily by trucks, electricity, water. Israel is in both energy issues and water quality issues.. high prices and we almost don't complain. Hamas, the govern authority in gaza is a terrorist organization, and always will stay that way. Gaza is out of control. The west bank is more stable with the settlements, believe it or not. the arabs at the west bank are not out of jobs, they work at construction in Israel, and the settlements. the settlements brought more infrastructure to the west bank, and soon there will be a university there for both sides.
[QUOTE=Lyoko2;37434362]I don't trust McCain, and you asking me for sources, which i cannot get. Seriously. [/QUOTE] So if you have no sources what the hell are you basing your arguments and claims on? Or are you just yelling about muslims for the hell of it?
I can't speak for the FBI, but i know plenty of public servants who talk about muslims, and use terms like Jihad and Mujahadeen. I dont see much freedom curbed in that regard. also, how do immigrants curb our freedoms? if anything it seems like the people who have been here before them want to inhibit our rights.
[QUOTE=Lyoko2;37434828]we give them free electricity, water supply, they got factories at the west bank. but gaza is totally hostile, firing rockets on our cities, we usually kill the responsible when they drive, not at their homes with their families. we have solid intel at gaza, UAV's, satelites. but when gaza's goverment. Hamas recieves billions from around the world and has stable economy to build malls and more hotels and you keep blaming us for shit.. gaza is an independent country. seriously, but it doesn't has it's own electricity supply and water supply, we give them extra food daily by trucks, electricity, water. Israel is in both energy issues and water quality issues.. high prices and we almost don't complain. Hamas, the govern authority in gaza is a terrorist organization, and always will stay that way. Gaza is out of control. The west bank is more stable with the settlements, believe it or not. the arabs at the west bank are not out of jobs, they work at construction in Israel, and the settlements. the settlements brought more infrastructure to the west bank, and soon there will be a university there for both sides.[/QUOTE] go there
[QUOTE=Sharq;37435025]I can't speak for the FBI, but i know plenty of public servants who talk about muslims, and use terms like Jihad and Mujahadeen. I dont see much freedom curbed in that regard. also, how do immigrants curb our freedoms? if anything it seems like the people who have been here before them want to inhibit our rights.[/QUOTE] there is no record of names or amount of illegal immigrants from the mexican border.. could be anyone, for any purpose.. I don't hate Mexico, but their territory is being used for bad stuff.. drug cartels, and hezbollah terrorism. [url]http://articles.cnn.com/2010-07-16/world/mexico.juarez.explosion_1_car-bomb-juarez-cartel-jose-reyes-ferriz?_s=PM:WORLD[/url] [url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/sep/1/hezbollah-car-bombs-on-our-border/[/url]
[QUOTE=Lyoko2;37435114]there is no record of names or amount of illegal immigrants from the mexican border.. could be anyone, for any purpose.. I don't hate Mexico, but their territory is being used for bad stuff.. drug cartels, and hezbollah terrorism. [url]http://articles.cnn.com/2010-07-16/world/mexico.juarez.explosion_1_car-bomb-juarez-cartel-jose-reyes-ferriz?_s=PM:WORLD[/url] [url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/sep/1/hezbollah-car-bombs-on-our-border/[/url][/QUOTE] the drug cartels would most likely still function regardless of our immigration polices.
[QUOTE=Lyoko2;37434362] Yes, I am an Israel as my avatar shows, but i already understand your opinions from your avatar. I'm just concerned about the shit that might go on within your country. I love the USA, but most of you live in fantasies and fairy tales.[/QUOTE] what Israel only exists because of some fantasy and fairy tale based on religious demagoguery, yet you have the nerve to say the USA lives in fantasies and fairy tales?? [editline]27th August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lyoko2;37434010] The Muslim brotherhood (of Egypt) was founded at the 30's with the help of Nazi Germany..[/QUOTE] you're pulling my leg
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;37434974]So if you have no sources what the hell are you basing your arguments and claims on? Or are you just yelling about muslims for the hell of it?[/QUOTE] No, their secret CIA resources that he can't show you. He'd be killed. [editline]27th August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;37436514]what Israel only exists because of some fantasy and fairy tale based on religious demagoguery, yet you have the nerve to say the USA lives in fantasies and fairy tales?? [editline]27th August 2012[/editline] you're pulling my leg[/QUOTE] what do you mean? everyone knows that Hitler, Stalin, and Obama signed their pact with the devil back in the 30's. what sort of history did you learn? [editline]27th August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lyoko2;37434540]in 30 years Europe will be come Islamic continent, why? they are the fast growing religion, and you might ask yourselves why?? that's because European family consists with 1-3 children per family and Muslim families usually have more than 5 childrens. that means its impossible to stop this process.. kicking them out is illegal and not ethic.. they don't like the courts, they want religious courts that judge by sharia laws.. yeah but numbers are non sense right? just a conspiracy theory. what? [editline]28th August 2012[/editline] opressing palestinians? [URL]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g660378-West_Bank_and_Gaza-Hotels.html[/URL][/QUOTE] Okay, let's do the math. Muslims make up 7.2% of the European population. That means that for every one muslim, there are 12 europeans. I'll use your numbers for family size (5 for muslims, 2 for europeans). The muslim population is growing by a factor of 2.5, while the european population is stable. So, next generation, there will be 2.5 muslims for every 12 europeans. The generation after that, there will be 6.25 muslims for every 12 europeans. The generation after that, there will be 15.625 muslims for every European. So yes, Europe will become predominately muslim, if these growth rates keep up. But seeing as the average life expectancy of Europeans is 78.82 years, it will still take 236 years for it to happen. So your time frame is a little bit off. Just a little. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe#Current_population_and_its_perception"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe#Current_population_and_its_perception[/URL] Oh look, some actual research to back me up! by 2100, muslims will make up 25% of Europe's population! seeing as 25% is not a majority, and 2100 is 88 years away, not 30, I think it's safe to say that Europe will stay European for a long time.
[QUOTE=The Kakistocrat;37436867]Okay, let's do the math. Muslims make up 7.2% of the European population. That means that for every one muslim, there are 12 europeans. I'll use your numbers for family size (5 for muslims, 2 for europeans). The muslim population is growing by a factor of 2.5, while the european population is stable. So, next generation, there will be 2.5 muslims for every 12 europeans. The generation after that, there will be 6.25 muslims for every 12 europeans. The generation after that, there will be 15.625 muslims for every European. So yes, Europe will become predominately muslim, if these growth rates keep up. But seeing as the average life expectancy of Europeans is 78.82 years, it will still take 236 years for it to happen. So your time frame is a little bit off. Just a little. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe#Current_population_and_its_perception"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe#Current_population_and_its_perception[/URL] Oh look, some actual research to back me up! by 2100, muslims will make up 25% of Europe's population! seeing as 25% is not a majority, and 2100 is 88 years away, not 30, I think it's safe to say that Europe will stay European for a long time.[/QUOTE]That, and the birth rate amongst second+ generation immigrants tends to slow down to about the national average, anyway.
Starpluck, can we just ban this crazy shit and move on? There is no debate here, just a nutter who posts links instead of debating
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