Trump's polling goes off a cliff, Clinton opens up huge double-digit lead in post-tapes NBC/WSJ poll
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[url]http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/poll-after-trump-tape-revelation-clinton-s-lead-double-digits-n663691[/url]
[quote]As Donald Trump's campaign reels over tapes of the presidential candidate's sexually aggressive comments about women in 2005, the Republican nominee now trails Hillary Clinton by double digits among likely voters, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.
The poll, conducted on Saturday and Sunday but before the second presidential debate, shows Clinton with 46 percent support among likely voters in a four-way matchup, compared to 35 percent for Trump.[/quote]
This is the end my friends
[media]https://youtu.be/7oday_Fc-Gc[/media]
Meanwhile in the Fuhrerbunker
[media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785530928256933888[/media]
Update: Trump disaster level is heading into Komm Susser Tod territory
[QUOTE=smurfy;51187275]Another poll shows a double-digit lead for Clinton
[url]http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/prri-atlantic-poll-trump-plummets/503561/[/url][/QUOTE]
[media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785842546878578688[/media]
trump better hope that clinton has a heart attack now because after that last debate that's about his only hope now
I have a hard time trusting NBC, considering the crap they posted last night.
[media]https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/785299709342654465/[/media]
I'm still speechless to tell you all the truth.
Pro-Clinton news source says Clinton is winning
Hmm
[QUOTE=Untouch;51183304]trump better hope that clinton has a heart attack now because after that last debate that's about his only hope now[/QUOTE]
I'd still vote for Clinton's corpse over a living Trump. Hell, wouldn't it just pass to Kaine? I voted for Kaine as senator, I'd vote for him again as President given the current line-up.
[QUOTE=Jmir 54;51183320]Pro-Clinton news source says Clinton is winning
Hmm[/QUOTE]
The entire news industry says Clinton is winning, dude.
[QUOTE=Anders118;51183326]The entire news industry says Clinton is winning, dude.[/QUOTE]
lamestream lieberal (((media))) says clinton is winning . . . .
hmmm, makes you think!
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;51183330]lamestream lieberal (((media))) says clinton is winning . . . .
hmmm, makes you think![/QUOTE]
Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
[QUOTE=gman003-main;51183322]I'd still vote for Clinton's corpse over a living Trump. Hell, wouldn't it just pass to Kaine? I voted for Kaine as senator, I'd vote for him again as President given the current line-up.[/QUOTE]
damn id love to see a kaine vs trump debate, would want to kill myself at the end of that probably
Not a Breitbart poll, not worth looking it.
RCP polling average at this point in the race, 2012 vs 2016
[media]https://twitter.com/bennie2128/status/785533191608229888[/media]
Only in 538 I trust.
[QUOTE=CroGamer002;51183368]Only in 538 I trust.[/QUOTE]
[media]https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/785510457826238464[/media]
[QUOTE=Untouch;51183340]damn id love to see a kaine vs trump debate, would want to kill myself at the end of that probably[/QUOTE]
Kaine is a boring and generally bad speaker but he's got good policies. Generally moderate but slightly left-leaning. He might even be more effective than Clinton with a Republican Congress, since a lot of his personal beliefs are more conservative even if he ends up with more liberal legislature (eg. he doesn't like abortion, but instead of trying to ban it, he funded full sex-ed classes instead of abstinence-only, aiming to cut down on unplanned pregnancies).
[QUOTE=smurfy;51183295]This is the end my friends[/QUOTE]
Hide your German shepherds lads, it's about to go down.
But that poll is pre-debate, do you have a post-debate poll?
[QUOTE=Numpers;51183463]But that poll is pre-debate, do you have a post-debate poll?[/QUOTE]
the first post-debate poll showed clinton with a 20% lead in winning the debate. that, combined with the fact that the debate had a massively reduced viewership in comparison to the first debate, should give an indication to where the polls are going this week.
[QUOTE=Numpers;51183463]But that poll is pre-debate, do you have a post-debate poll?[/QUOTE]
Way too early for that.
But considering the fact that most people think that it was a close win for Clinton, it may have very little effect on polls.
Trump poorly addressed the 2005 tape at the beginning of the debate so this might have an impact too.
[QUOTE=smurfy;51183380][media]https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/785510457826238464[/media][/QUOTE]
A literal burn. :v:
[QUOTE=phaedon;51183476]Way too early for that.
But considering the fact that most people think that it was a close win for Clinton, it may have very little effect on polls.[/QUOTE]
and at this point anything less than a stellar debate performance would be a net loss for Trump, so it being ambiguous at all is already a bad sign for him whether or not his numbers improve. if he was turning [I]these[/I] kinds of numbers around there's no way it would go under the radar.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51183313]I have a hard time trusting NBC, considering the crap they posted last night.
[media]https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/785299709342654465[/media]
I'm still speechless to tell you all the truth.[/QUOTE]
is this created by some sort of AI?
[QUOTE=smurfy;51183380][media]https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/785510457826238464[/media][/QUOTE]
Nice little Trumpster fire they have there.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51183313]I have a hard time trusting NBC, considering the crap they posted last night.
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I'm still speechless to tell you all the truth.[/QUOTE]
Can't even tell an acid from a base and we expect him to be president?
also that random slash in your post made me scratch my screen because I thought it was a hair, you devil you.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51183697]Can't even tell an acid from a base and we expect him to be president?
also that random slash in your post made me scratch my screen because I thought it was a hair, you devil you.[/QUOTE]
My president should be an accplished xhemist, and never be hyperbolic!
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[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51183313]I have a hard time trusting NBC, considering the crap they posted last night.
[media]https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/785299709342654465/[/media]
I'm still speechless to tell you all the truth.[/QUOTE]
if I had to wade through the fecal ocean of bullshit trump expelled during the debate I would be glib too
Too early for post-debate polling being included in fivethirtyeight's model, but Clinton is basically back to her start-August peak.
Edit: I'm not one to make predictions (that's why I go to 538), but I can't see a way for Trump to recover when it took him 1.5 months to just barely equal her polling.
Why do people give a shit about these polls?
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;51183784]if I had to wade through the fecal ocean of bullshit trump expelled during the debate I would be glib too[/QUOTE]
Whatever weird concoction of words you just produced isn't really an excuse for calling foul on a completely true statement by interpreting the phrase "acid wash" as someone literally using a corrosive compound to destroy a server. This is a completely stupid "fact check" no matter how you spin it.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51183313]I have a hard time trusting NBC, considering the crap they posted last night.
[media]https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/785299709342654465/[/media]
I'm still speechless to tell you all the truth.[/QUOTE]
Did Ken M post this?
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