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[QUOTE]WASHINGTON — A bill that would give Congress a voice in any nuclear agreement between world powers and Iran passed the Senate overwhelmingly on Thursday afternoon.
The measure, which was approved 98 to 1, withstood months of tense negotiations, White House resistance, the indictment of one of its sponsors and a massive partisan kerfuffle over a speech to Congress by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu just as an accord was coming together. The lone vote against the bill was cast by Senator Tom Cotton, Republican of Arkansas.
The House is expected to take up the Senate measure as early as next week. “I look forward to House passage of this bill to hold President Obama’s administration accountable,” House Speaker John A. Boehner said in a prepared statement.
Republican infighting prevented a debate of significant amendments to the bill, leaving some members deeply unhappy that they were unable to weigh in further on a matter that many said was the most significant of their careers. But in the end, a bipartisan accord that seemed nearly impossible in the upper chamber just a few months ago came together by a convincing margin.
“Let me be clear,” Senator Mitch McConnell, Republican of Kentucky and the majority leader, said on the Senate floor Thursday, as he encouraged senators to approve the bill while noting the procedural fights that hobbled the process. “Our response to this should not be to give the American people no say at all,” adding, “Make no mistake that will this not be the end of the story.”
Republicans and Democrats had gingerly worked out a deal to allow votes on a few amendments to the bill. But that arrangement fell apart when Senator David Vitter, Republican of Louisiana, used procedural moves to stall the bill Wednesday.[/QUOTE]
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the republicans are pissed off that they themselves voted for the iran bill
So they are injecting themselves into the negotiations? That can't be good.
[QUOTE=Fangz;47681253]So they are injecting themselves into the negotiations? That can't be good.[/QUOTE]Trying. They have no place there however.
This is bad for peace.
EDIT: Why is it okay to go to war without proper authorization, but peace deals require all the red tape in the world?
I probably haven't thought about this from every angle, but wouldn't this be a good thing? If representatives from every state have their say on foreign relations, wouldn't that better reflect the united states as a whole? Yeah, talks will slow down, but at least everyone gets to speak their piece.
[QUOTE=Reshy;47682010]This is bad for peace.
EDIT: Why is it okay to go to war without proper authorization, but peace deals require all the red tape in the world?[/QUOTE]
because people are scared that this 'peace deal' will lead to more war
[QUOTE=Android phone;47686863]I probably haven't thought about this from every angle, but wouldn't this be a good thing? If representatives from every state have their say on foreign relations, wouldn't that better reflect the united states as a whole? Yeah, talks will slow down, but at least everyone gets to speak their piece.[/QUOTE]
No. The constitution grants authority to negotiate to the president and ONLY THE PRESIDENT. Congress cannot, without an amendment, insert themselves into any negotiations. All this proves is that we need to arrest 98 senators. The constitution really needs punishments for doing shit like this.
[QUOTE=Android phone;47686863]I probably haven't thought about this from every angle, but wouldn't this be a good thing? If representatives from every state have their say on foreign relations, wouldn't that better reflect the united states as a whole? Yeah, talks will slow down, but at least everyone gets to speak their piece.[/QUOTE]
Here's why - Millions and millions of words:
Filibuster
[QUOTE=GunFox;47687066]No. The constitution grants authority to negotiate to the president and ONLY THE PRESIDENT. Congress cannot l, without an amendment, insert themselves into any negotiations. All this proves is that we need to arrest 98 senators. The constitution really needs punishments for doing shit like this.[/QUOTE]
I thought this was the case. I didnt want to post it because I wasnt sure... The only thing we need now is the SCOTUS to step in and tell congress to shut the fuck up.
Checks and balances motherfuckers
[QUOTE=Android phone;47686863]I probably haven't thought about this from every angle, but wouldn't this be a good thing? If representatives from every state have their say on foreign relations, wouldn't that better reflect the united states as a whole? Yeah, talks will slow down, but at least everyone gets to speak their piece.[/QUOTE]
Besides the fact that all foreign relations are designated to be handled by the president so it doesn't get stalled by political back and forth, the Republicans don't really care about how to make the deal better for the U.S. The only thing they hope to achieve is to sabotage it by tacking on other requirements for Iran, in the hopes that Iran backs out of the deal so they can further lambast Obama and the Democrats for doing nothing and failing.
They had a similar attempt earlier when the majority of Republican senators sent a letter to the Iranian government saying that essentially, any deal they sign with the U.S. is between only Iran and the current government. Not-so-sublty implying that if a Republican president won in 2016, they'd be more than willing to violate the deal with Iran if they so pleased since, 'I didn't sign.' That failed to dissuade the Iranians from going forward, so this is their next stop.
Isn't trying to undermine the President's negotiation efforts a violation of the Logans act?
[QUOTE=Shirt.;47689145]Isn't trying to undermine the President's negotiation efforts a violation of the Logans act?[/QUOTE]
Yes but Obama has half of America ready to scream "abuse of power" if he does so much as sneezes so there's nothing he or anyone else will do about it.
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