• The UK wants access to all phone and internet user data.
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[url]http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/19/uk-government-to-demand-access-to-all-phone-and-internet-user-data/[/url] [release]The British government is in the process of developing a scheme whereby all phone companies and broadband internet providers will be required to store customer transaction data for a year and hand it over to security services upon request. The databases would also include Facebook communications, Twitter posts — including direct messages between subscribers — and even communications between players in online video games. Related: SOPA author demands ISPs keep user data for 18 months According to the Telegraph, the Communications Capabilities Development Programme (CCDP) is already being attacked by privacy advocates as offering a license for abuse and as raising the “Big Brother” potential for universal surveillance. The British government, however, views it as a “vital” tool against terrorism and serious crime, and the legislation to put it into effect is expected to be proposed in May. The information to be stored would not include the content of calls or emails but would consist of phone numbers and email addresses. These would would who was communicating with whom on what occasions and could also make it easy for police to track the movements of cellphone and computer users. The plan has aroused concerns not only over civil liberties but also because hackers could potentially exploit the massive databases, which would be maintained by the companies and not by the government itself. “This will be ripe for hacking” Gus Hosein of Privacy International stated. “Every hacker, every malicious threat, every foreign government is going to want access to this.” “The internet companies will be told to store who you are friends with and interact with,” he added. “While this may appear innocuous it requires the active interception of every single communication you make, and this has never been done in a democratic society.” There are also fears that service providers might use the information as a basis for directing targeted advertising to computers and mobile phones. A similar scheme was proposed by the Labour government in 2009 but withdrawn due to public opposition. At that time, the Conservatives accused Labour of being “reckless” with regard to privacy, but now the Conservative government itself has revived the scheme, allegedly after the security services lobbied Home Secretary Theresa May. The Open Rights Group has an anti-CCDP petition at its website, which describes the plan as “pointless,” “expensive,” and “illegal” and expresses the intention of forming a mass movement to oppose it.[/release] yikes
No. Fuck you!
The British government can't be trusted not to lose any sort of data on it's citizens, why the hell are they asking for more? Are they taking the piss?
Come on, it's like if you wanted to further feed Anonymous with their V craze.
At least the American one is six months worse.
So who cloned Lamar Smith and planted the clone in Parliament?
Leave our internet alone for fuck sake!
Meh, GCHQ has a lot more covered than is obvious already Down with this sort of thing, though! Father Ted style, bitch.
Doesn't the US already do something similar to this? I remember reading something about the U.S. archives storing some number of entire terabytes worth of twitter posts.
Well, looks like I'll finally be attending a protest then. I almost joined the Glasgow ACTA protest but I pussied out because of uni work. Not this time.
Better start developing a cipher.
Reminds me of Bill C-30 over here. Fight the good fight, brothers, we're getting something done about this over here, you can get something done over there.
[QUOTE=markg06;34789908]Better start developing a cipher.[/QUOTE] Me and my friends already have all the toys for the party ready. The meeting is under the big clock on Jimmy's birthday. Don't forget tell your mom you will need her to pick you up at three.
Jesus Christ, again?!
[QUOTE=Hidole555;34789882]Doesn't the US already do something similar to this? I remember reading something about the U.S. archives storing some number of entire terabytes worth of twitter posts.[/QUOTE] That's different, if I remember correctly Twitter posts were being stored for their historical value or something like that Article from last year: [URL="http://articles.cnn.com/2010-04-14/tech/library.congress.twitter_1_tweets-micro-blogging-twitter?_s=PM:TECH"]http://articles.cnn.com/2010-04-14/tech/library.congress.twitter_1_tweets-micro-blogging-twitter?_s=PM:TECH[/URL] This is assuming that we're thinking of the same thing here
To be honest, this ain't so bad as long as the stuff it kept completely secret unless a special service asks (which should be rarely), and may only be used as proof for what is obviously to coordinate some major type of crime like a bank robbery or something, no looking for piracy or transactions in money over the internet. I'd rather not have it at all, though.
Look, if you guys wanted this done, you should have done this when the internet was invented. Don't screw around with it now you jerks.
Suck my balls Gov.
It's like we're in a big brother state
[QUOTE=Article]and even communications between players in online video games.[/QUOTE] Oh please, millions of people play online games every day and recording chat messages between them is entirely impossible. I doubt the article is being factual here as I don't think they would suggest this actually be done.
[QUOTE=AngryChairR;34790447]Oh please, millions of people play online games every day and recording chat messages between them is entirely impossible. I doubt the article is being factual here as I don't think they would suggest this actually be done.[/QUOTE] it's not impossible at all to hit a record button and record all chat's etc, it's impossible to monitor it all though unless they just search certain keywords when they are looking for something.
GET FUCKED.
One week after passing - every gamer goes to jail for discussing 'bomb plots'.
[QUOTE=Lurklet;34790723]it's not impossible at all to hit a record button and record all chat's etc, it's impossible to monitor it all though unless they just search certain keywords when they are looking for something.[/QUOTE] uh, the average user uses like 10+gb of internet a week, and that's not counting gamers/downloaders etc.
Can we then have Cameras in #10 and access to all of Mr Cameron's communications? Perhaps broadcast this on free to air television channels. No, we can't, because it would invade his privacy. This is basically the same... Politicians do not understand the internet.
[QUOTE=E1025;34790756]One week after passing - every gamer goes to jail for discussing 'bomb plots'.[/QUOTE] Yeah, if they use a system that looks for keywords and patterns there's going to be so many flags going up for people who're planning WoW raids or asking where sells that gun you want, it'll be almost unworkable.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;34789475]The British government can't be trusted not to lose any sort of data on it's citizens, why the hell are they asking for more? Are they taking the piss?[/QUOTE] "I'm just going to leave this flash drive with the insurance, bank and internet details of millions of people and these missile plans on this here train, what could possibly go wrong?" They've already lost countless CD's ffs
No, fuck off government.
I'm sick of this Big Brother society being forced upon us. The idea of all of my details, personal affairs, pictures and hobbies being stored somewhere other than my home is an infringment of my privacy. Can't we use the Humand Rights law for something decent for once and put forward it's our right to privacy? The grim fact is, they're probably already doing it now.
heh reminds me of that poster dotted around London to encourage CCTV use. [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11648828/2644171457_6228ef03f4_z.jpg[/img] [editline]20th February 2012[/editline] british governments are either playing the worlds greatest satire gag or they are blissfully unaware how Orwellian their habits are.
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