• Shots fired in Hong Kong riots after hygiene "crackdown"
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[IMG]http://cdn4.scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/486x302/public/images/methode/2016/02/09/b1197012-ce89-11e5-a371-05d2ff0b4d8d_1280x720.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]One of Hong Kong’s busiest districts is in virtual lockdown this morning after a night of violence which saw the police open fire with two ‘’warning shots’’ as protesters launched missiles and set fires as a crackdown on illegal street food hawkers escalated into what some witnesses described as a ‘riot’. Mong Kok, the scene of some of the worst unrest during the Occupy protests in 2014 , remains tense as unidentified protesters - a signficant number of them so-called ‘localists’ who campaign for varying degrees of independence for Hong Kong - launching sporadic brick and bottle attacks on police and the police responding with pepper spray. A number of fires are also reported to be burning in the area surrounding Shantung and Soy Streets and the government has advised motorists to steer clear of the area. Crusade Yau Siu-kei, deputy Mong Kok district commander, confirmed this morning officers fired two warning shots during the “riot”.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-crime/article/1910845/hong-kongs-new-year-night-violence-leaves-mong-kok-lockdown[/url] [url]https://news.vice.com/article/fishball-revolution-creates-chaos-on-hong-kong-streets-during-lunar-new-year-fest[/url]
This is fucked up. Just to clarify, these people are a small radical minority. Not all of Hong Kong is this violent and anti-establishment.
[QUOTE]a signficant number of them so-called ‘localists’ who campaign for varying degrees of independence for Hong Kong[/QUOTE] Apparently food safety regulations are oppressive now
[quote]Crusade Yau Siu-kei, deputy Mong Kok district commander[/quote] Wait, is this his title or his name? Because either way, it's pretty cool.
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;49702392]Apparently food safety regulations are oppressive now[/QUOTE] being china, they could easily be just soliciting bribes and kicking out the ones that don't pay without actually doing anything about food safety
[QUOTE=Alxnotorious;49702421]Wait, is this his title or his name? Because either way, it's pretty cool.[/QUOTE] it's his name.
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;49702392]Apparently food safety regulations are oppressive now[/QUOTE] I haven't lived in Hong Kong, but having spoken to someone who has (and linked this article), along with some reading. On Chinese New Year there is often a street market that gets set up at night however the people running this often do not have permits, but until now have been allowed to run this. This year the authorities decided to shut this down instead of leaving it, however, this has caused people to turn against them for various other reasons, not just that of the markets being closed. Seems a lot of people think this is an "explosion" of tension that has been building since the 2014 riots and that the shut down of the market was just a catalyst. Obviously, don't know this first hand. [editline]9th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=MyBumBum;49702379]This is fucked up. Just to clarify, these people are a small radical minority. Not all of Hong Kong is this violent and anti-establishment.[/QUOTE] I think that's the case in most countries where you have this sort of action, I would hardly call the London riots representative of the UK. There is obviously a reason for both sides though.
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;49702392]Apparently food safety regulations are oppressive now[/QUOTE] Naw the 'localists' are just finding excuses to riot against the police. Shit is fucked up down here. Even our reporters have been beaten for trying to get footage of the scenes. One dude got stabbed. [editline]9th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Sableye;49702449]being china, they could easily be just soliciting bribes and kicking out the ones that don't pay without actually doing anything about food safety[/QUOTE] No man this is Hong Kong, we're not actually corrupt believe it or not.
[QUOTE=Sableye;49702449]being china, they could easily be just soliciting bribes and kicking out the ones that don't pay without actually doing anything about food safety[/QUOTE] Hong Kong hasn't been part of China long enough to be too much like the rest of the country.
[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;49702684]Hong Kong hasn't been part of China long enough to be too much like the rest of the country.[/QUOTE] They didn't want to be part of China but the UK abandoned them.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49702808]They didn't want to be part of China but the UK abandoned them.[/QUOTE] I stand with Hong Kong but what else was the UK supposed to do? Just go "Nah sorry we're keepin' it" with territory from a nation that has access to nuclear weapons?
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49702841]I stand with Hong Kong but what else was the UK supposed to do? Just go "Nah sorry we're keepin' it" with territory from a nation that has access to nuclear weapons?[/QUOTE] In the end a nation must protect its people.
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;49702392]Apparently food safety regulations are oppressive now[/QUOTE] I remember an article was posting in SH a while back that claimed 1 in 10 chinese street food setups used grease [url=http://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-street-vendors-use-gutter-oil-2013-10]pulled from the street[/url] to make their food. I can understand why they would toughen up food safety regulations.
[QUOTE=polarbear.;49702996]I remember an article was posting in SH a while back that claimed 1 in 10 chinese street food setups used grease [url=http://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-street-vendors-use-gutter-oil-2013-10]pulled from the street[/url] to make their food. I can understand why they would toughen up food safety regulations.[/QUOTE] Nononono the thing is, there were street stalls selling food and that's illegal, so Health & Safety inspectors went to clear them up.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49702808]They didn't want to be part of China but the UK abandoned them.[/QUOTE] We made an agreement with China 100 years prior. If we'd suddenly cancelled that agreement at the last minute, it would have been a major diplomatic incident. Not to mention we'd only recently come out of a territorial war over a distant island with another nation...
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;49703214]We made an agreement with China 100 years prior. If we'd suddenly cancelled that agreement at the last minute, it would have been a major diplomatic incident. Not to mention we'd only recently come out of a territorial war over a distant island with another nation...[/QUOTE] You could argue it was another nation, Hell, Taiwan is really the Republic Of China.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49702928]In the end a nation must protect its people.[/QUOTE] the UK's lease on hong kong was up china didn't seem afraid to declare war if the UK refused im not happy about it either, but they had no choice
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;49703214]We made an agreement with China 100 years prior. If we'd suddenly cancelled that agreement at the last minute, it would have been a major diplomatic incident. Not to mention we'd only recently come out of a territorial war over a distant island with another nation...[/QUOTE] It was more UK made an agreement several years prior for trade purposes and they didn't want to muck that up
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49702928]In the end a nation must protect its people.[/QUOTE] You realize how bad a war with China would be, right?
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49702928]In the end a nation must protect its people.[/QUOTE] uhhhh the uk's not going to go to war with china over hk man
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;49702392]Apparently food safety regulations are oppressive now[/QUOTE] Well I can see why some people are angry with these health inspector when they're treating these hawker like drug dealers and even set sting just to catch them. Its just some people trying to make a living on a festive day when most shops are closed. If the government actually listened to peoples request and give out permission it probably won't generate this much tension. Also this wasn't the cause for this riot imo, this was just a catalyst
Just gonna copy and paste this here, I already had posted this in another post: Here, have a nice read. [url]http://www.passiontimes.hk/article/02-09-2016/28642/[/url] it's not just this incident that caused the protest to occur, it's also how the Hong Kong government tries to do everything it can to go against the citizens' wills. For example what's going on right now in the government is that they're trying to pass a "copyright bill", which limits what people can post on the internet without being sued by the government. Simply put, if you were to post a meme, inside the picture you are going to have to credit where the meme came from, who the creator of such meme is, what it is etc etc. Even with the credit fully done, if the government doesn't like it, they can skip the creator of the meme's consent and sue you directly. And this is just one of the things, there are other things like building a railway that connects Hong Kong to mainland China which costs 85,300,000,000.00 HKD, which is 10,946,146,960.02 USD and so on. Also tension between the police and citizens already had been high before this event, this is just a way for the people to explode and let out the anger.
[QUOTE=awcmon;49703315]the UK's lease on hong kong was up [/QUOTE] The lease they signed with the defunct Qing Dynasty? That was literally 2-3 governments ago. [QUOTE=Jund;49703529]uhhhh the uk's not going to go to war with china over hk man[/QUOTE] Obviously not, bit late for that. However, you literally abandoned hundreds of thousands of your citizens. They now live under an oppressive and corrupt government that doesn't have rule of law or provide its citizens with democratic freedoms.
China's been trying to turn Hong Kong to be authoritarian shit like the rest of mainland China, of course people aren't happy about that and the smallest things will trigger reactions like this. [QUOTE=MyBumBum;49702379]This is fucked up. Just to clarify, these people are a small radical minority. Not all of Hong Kong is this violent and anti-establishment.[/QUOTE] If it was up to the Chinese government this guy wouldn't even be posting here, Hong Kong would be behind the Great Firewall like the rest of China.
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