"JEWS AND ARABS REFUSE TO BE ENEMIES" MOVEMENT CALLS FOR LOVE, NOT VIOLENCE - Polidicks

[img]http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtLYqsLCAAApYDS.jpg[/img] [img]http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtHoN61CEAIyESN.jpg[/img] [img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtLA8UACcAAWfF3.jpg[/img] [img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtJtviCIcAEblxj.png[/img] [img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs_LaeXCEAAH47N.jpg[/img] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCCWX9Q5G2c[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiEzexc5J30[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2eV5fbFUTQ[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnsyTXgXYoI[/media] [quote] An Israeli student, living in the US, is said to have launched an online campaign in an attempt to initiate dialogue between Jewish and Arab communities. Abraham Gutman and Dania Darwish, both students at Hunter College in New York, created the hashtag #JewsAndArabsRefuseToBeEnemiesamid escalating violence in Gaza. More than 600 people are said to have been killed in the conflict. Writing for The Christian Monitor,Gutman said: For me, it is hard to watch the current escalation between Israel and Gaza from afar. I wanted to find a way to be more than a passenger, to do something about it rather than just watch the news and hope for the best. This message is a translation of a slogan that peaceful groups in Israel have been using for years. They are allowed to respect each other, and they are allowed to disagree and remain civil. – ABRAHAM GUTMAN[/quote] [url]http://www.itv.com/news/2014-07-23/jewsandarabsrefusetobeenemies/[/url] [quote]After two weeks of violence between Israel and Hamas, which has claimed at least 570 Palestinians and 27 Israelis so far, people from both sides are pleading for an end to the bloodshed. Earlier this month, around 300 people participated in a demonstration in Haifa, Israel, dubbed ”Jews and Arabs Refuse to Be Enemies.” Now the same phrase has evolved into a hashtag, and it’s being used by thousands of people in an international social media movement calling for peace. The ongoing unrest stems from the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli girls in June, which was followed by 10 days of air strikes, a failed ceasfire, and Israel’s ground invasion of Gaza last Thursday, resulting in the deadliest day since the fighting started for both sides. As the world watched in horror, one group is refusing to be silent spectators. Thousands of people — Jewish, Arab, and otherwise — have come together in solidarity to convey messages of love, tolerance, and peace using the #JewsAndArabsRefuseToBeEnemies hashtag. Users have been posting to both Twitter and Facebook pictures of spouses, friends, and family members along with the hashtag and various other messages of peace. Many of the people make up Jewish-Arab couples or are both Jewish and Arab in ethnicity — human proof that Jews and Arabs don’t have to be enemies. The #JewsAndArabsRefuseToBeEnemies movement was started by two Hunter College students, Abraham Gutman, who is from Israel, and Dania Darwish, who is from Syria, as a way to promote peace amid the violence. People from both sides are encouraged to share messages and photos of love, which seem to collectively say, “Violence is not the only solution.”[/quote] [url]http://www.bustle.com/articles/32769-jews-and-arabs-refuse-to-be-enemies-movement-calls-for-love-not-violence-photos[/url] [quote] The internet can often be a dark, scary place, but the #JewsAndArabsRefuseToBeEnemies hashtag proves it can also be a vehicle for hope and peace. As the conflict rages on in Israel and Gaza, and tensions mount around the world, a slogan of friendship has emerged that is giving hope that peace may one day prevail. Jews and Arabs refuse to be enemies began as a chant at a 300-strong peace rally in Israel back in June, and has since taken on a life of its own, with people the world over using it to show their love and support for each other. Here are some of the most inspiring posts so far.[/quote] [url]http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/23/the-jews-and-arabs-refuse-to-be-enemies-hashtag-is-the-most-uplifting-thing-on-twitter-right-now-4807199/[/url] Heartwarming to see this, the only thing nice to come out of a terrible conflict.

See, this is the good shit, people have to understand that fighting each other won't ever get us anywhere.

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I saw these guys on IMGUR and thought "Holy fuck, the balls on these two." [t]http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtHoN61CEAIyESN.jpg[/t]

Information is the weapon to win peace, we have only begun to piece together all the information of modern times with the internet. It may take 50 more years, but we are beginning to see the end of war. I only fear there will be a big war before the end.

brother will hug brother, spreading love across the land killing for religion we should never understand

This is the only thing that could possibly stop this shit. Hopefully it'll pick up and not become just another popular trend.

[QUOTE=Joazzz;45497780]brother will hug brother, spreading love across the land killing for religion we should never understand[/QUOTE] The Dave Mustaine looks at you in silent approval [img]http://www.formula1.com/photos/teams_and_drivers/hall_of_fame_profile/top_right/hof_profile_right_40.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=ZakkShock;45497751]I saw these guys on IMGUR and thought "Holy fuck, the balls on these two." [t]http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtHoN61CEAIyESN.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] well they got 2 balls like anyone else. contrary to popular belief gaymosexuals also have balls.

[QUOTE=Saturn V;45497816]The Dave Mustaine looks at you in silent approval[/QUOTE]shut up Hetfield

[QUOTE=ZakkShock;45497751]I saw these guys on IMGUR and thought "Holy fuck, the balls on these two." [t]http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtHoN61CEAIyESN.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] See this? This is fucking progress.

Crazy, but that's how it goes Millions of people living as foes Maybe it's not too late To learn how to love And forget how to hate

[QUOTE=Saturn V;45497816]The Dave Mustaine looks at you in silent approval [img]http://www.formula1.com/photos/teams_and_drivers/hall_of_fame_profile/top_right/hof_profile_right_40.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Commie Dave is not amused. [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Vladimir_Putin_in_KGB_uniform.jpg[/IMG]

It's easy for people living half a world away to do this, but for the people who are actually involved it isn't so easy. They've had decades of hatred for each other.

It also isn't very easy to have peace when there's religious fanatics on the islamic side, who definitely aren't going to take the hint unless their god personally comes down to bitch-slap them.

I was hoping conflicts would end by a fat small child painting a cow ginger

A noble effort. Applause worthy effort. But also entirely and utterly futile. So long as two people are alive someone is gonna want someone else dead. IT is basic human nature, as irrational as that may be, and it is here to stay.

[QUOTE=TestECull;45498846]A noble effort. Applause worthy effort. But also entirely and utterly futile. So long as two people are alive someone is gonna want someone else dead. IT is basic human nature, as irrational as that may be, and it is here to stay.[/QUOTE]Yes, because every other country is at each others' throats just as ferociously as the Israelis and Palestinians. I can't remember a single day where I didn't go around hunting Swedes and beating Russians, while the news is utterly filled with the ongoing nuclear war between Britain and France. It might be a futile gesture, but it's not because humans are somehow incapable of spending more than 5 minutes not twatting each other with varying types of hyped-up sticks.

this is stupid. Like I understand the sentiment and shit, but really - what the fuck is it gonna do? People living on the other side of the planet who were likely raised outside of their native countries are asking their homelands to stop fighting by holding up signs saying "why can't we all just get along"? Nothing like this is going to do anything except marginally raise awareness of the conflict - I hate to be pessimistic, especially because of my own personal ties to the region, but there will never be peace there. Guaranteed.

[QUOTE=LZTYBRN;45498982]this is stupid. Like I understand the sentiment and shit, but really - what the fuck is it gonna do? People living on the other side of the planet who were likely raised outside of their native countries are asking their homelands to stop fighting by holding up signs saying "why can't we all just get along"? Nothing like this is going to do anything except marginally raise awareness of the conflict - I hate to be pessimistic, especially because of my own personal ties to the region, but there will never be peace there. Guaranteed.[/QUOTE] People who think outside the box

[QUOTE=TestECull;45498846]A noble effort. Applause worthy effort. But also entirely and utterly futile. So long as two people are alive someone is gonna want someone else dead. IT is basic human nature, as irrational as that may be, and it is here to stay.[/QUOTE] Calm your downer boner.

[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;45498647]It also isn't very easy to have peace when there's religious fanatics on the islamic side, who definitely aren't going to take the hint unless their god personally comes down to bitch-slap them.[/QUOTE] Yes, because all the religious conflict between Judaism and Islam is because of the fanatics of Islam; Zionism had no part to play in this.

Why can't we all just get along? Because the parties of god have a veto power on any solution. Whether it's the messianic settlers or the jihadi militants, peace is not an option for them.

[QUOTE=Explosions;45499433]Why can't we all just get along? Because the parties of god have a veto power on any solution. Whether it's the messianic settlers or the jihadi militants, peace is not an option for them.[/QUOTE] That's kind of naive way of thinking about it. Thinking that you can't establish peace because of petty ideological differences. The European wars of religion have some similarities with this conflict, yet Europe is (fairly) peaceful today. [editline]25th July 2014[/editline] Eventually if either side ever matures enough to stop escalating things, and they actually focus on other things, then the conflict will stop and peace becomes the norm.

[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;45498647]It also isn't very easy to have peace when there's religious fanatics on the islamic side, who definitely aren't going to take the hint unless their god personally comes down to bitch-slap them.[/QUOTE] Uh, there's religious fanatics on the Jewish side of things too, there are even fanatic Christians that are supporting the Jewish fanatics on this. Islam isn't the only religion with fanatics.

[QUOTE=draugur;45499522]Uh, there's religious fanatics on the Jewish side of things too, there are even fanatic Christians that are supporting the Jewish fanatics on this. Islam isn't the only religion with fanatics.[/QUOTE] Islam is a lot better known for its fanatics, mainly because of incidents like 9/11 and other suicide bombings. However, even Christianity sets fire to abortion clinics. Every religion has its extremists-- it's unfair to simply criticize the entirety of Islam because of those small percentages.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;45499504]That's kind of naive way of thinking. Thinking that you can't establish peace because of petty ideological differences. The European wars of religion have some similarities with this conflict, yet Europe is (fairly) peaceful today. [editline]25th July 2014[/editline] Eventually if either side ever matures enough to stop escalating things at the hint of conflict, and they actually focus on other things, then the conflict will stop and peace becomes the norm.[/QUOTE] It's not a petty ideological difference. It's an extreme, existential worldview. And I never said the problem will never be solved, but that it won't be solved until this extreme religion disappears. You mention how Europe is peaceful today. Europe doesn't have extreme religious ideologies today does it? And in the few spots that it does, there is violence.

That first picture is very touching. I like it a lot

[QUOTE=Explosions;45499539]It's not a petty ideological difference. It's an extreme, existential worldview. And I never said the problem will never be solved, but that it won't be solved until this extreme religion disappears. You mention how Europe is peaceful today. Europe doesn't have extreme religious ideologies today does it? And in the few spots that it does, there is violence.[/QUOTE] The extremist religious problems are a symptom of the problem, not a cause. Historically, there have been a lot of conflicts that don't involve religion at all, so why would you assume religion is the root of the problem? Religion is just a method of dividing people and can be used to indoctrinate and control the masses. "People of that religion are bad, go kill them!" You could use substitute religion for other things like skin color, language, political ideology, etc. It just so happens that religion is one of the more popular ones. I wouldn't say you need to remove the religion to fix the problem, you need to fix the underlying political issues, ie stop the escalation of violence.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;45499590]The extremist religious problems are a symptom of the problem, not a cause. Historically, there have been a lot of conflicts that don't involve religion at all. Religion is a method of dividing people and can be used to indoctrinate and control the masses. "People of that religion are bad, go kill them!" You could use substitute religion for other things like skin color, language, political ideology. It just so happens that religion is one of the more popular ones.[/QUOTE] There is no secular reason why there can't be a 2 state solution. It's explicitly a religious problem. You could say "nationalism is just a symptom of a problem" or "racism is just a symptom of a problem" or "imperialism is just a symptom" but at that point there is no longer even a problem to identify. The whole "symptom of a problem" is just a bullshit phrase used to exonerate certain ideologies from criticism. The fact of the matter is that religion has made the Israeli-Palestinian problem infinitely worse. I'm not saying that there wouldn't be an issue without religion. But it's far worse because of it.