• Getting into Drawn Art; Need Tips
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I come from a long line of painters/illustrators/artists in general. So I would like to learn how to properly draw. What should I start with, how often should I practice? Any good tutorials that people could link me? Generally, I like to draw people, but I'm absolutely horrid at it. tia
[QUOTE=Perfumly;18955619]I come from a long line of painters/illustrators/artists in general. So I would like to learn how to properly draw. What should I start with, how often should I practice? Any good tutorials that people could link me? Generally, I like to draw people, but I'm absolutely horrid at it. tia[/QUOTE] Come, I shall teach you the ways. You'll need to get xfire and teamviewer. Learning to draw really depends on your determination, it is just like a sport, you have "work out" daily and constantly to improve your skills.
[QUOTE=1chains1;18955752]Come, I shall teach you the ways. You'll need to get xfire and teamviewer. Learning to draw really depends on your determination, it is just like a sport, you have "work out" daily and constantly to improve your skills.[/QUOTE] Uh, would steam be ok? Or MSN?
Fuck instant messaging, it's not rocket science. To answer your questions in order, a paper and pencil, as much as is physically possible, tutorials are completely worthless. Good art is got by virtue of repetition. You can't become a good artist unless you practice constantly, and you can't become a good artist unless you study art. So just draw, study, and draw some more. The end. But if you must follow tutorials, I implore you to restrict yourself to basic stuff. Like, "how to draw primitives", "how to draw in perspective", etc...
I've just gotten good by drawing. When I'm bored, and then just sitting down with a pen and pencil.
[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;18956144]Fuck instant messaging, it's not rocket science. To answer your questions in order, a paper and pencil, as much as is physically possible, tutorials are completely worthless. Good art is got by virtue of repetition. You can't become a good artist unless you practice constantly, and you can't become a good artist unless you study art. So just draw, study, and draw some more. The end.[/QUOTE] I feel that is wrong. You need to know the fundamentals, tutorials do not work but what does is observing other people's processes. If you don't learn from others your road will be much harder. If you can get into a fundamentals of drawing class you would learn quite a few of the things that could set you on your way.
[QUOTE=Ajacks;18956217]I feel that is wrong. You need to know the fundamentals, tutorials do not work but what does is observing other people's processes. If you don't learn from others your road will be much harder. If you can get into a fundamentals of drawing class you would learn quite a few of the things that could set you on your way.[/QUOTE] Yes, but that's not what makes you a good artist. You have to develop your own style, and you need a very good teacher to help you do that. And that's why simple practice and basic instruction is peerless when it comes to art. Not to mention a lot of places that teach art, especially art schools, will pull you around by your dick for money. So you still need to be able to recognize things for yourself, which is why studying artists is important.
Yo perfumly, I still owe you a favor for getting me those reference images of the AK47. If you ever want some help on learning to draw figures, just hit me up through PM or MSN. I can point you in the right directions and give you tips. Gonna be getting that stuff together for livestreaming and a megathread I think anyway, so that I can start helping all of creationism corner learn about figure drawing. I've been so overloaded with school work that it hasn't been able to happen yet. Soon though... definitely before the new year comes.
Get a book or two (probably also get one on the psychological effects of art/design if you've never read into it too), find cheap lessons, learn from good critics
To be honest observing over people and how they do art is good only once you have developed the skills and [B]your[/B] own style. You said you want to draw people, so I would first buy a book on drawing human anatomy or find a good tutorial online. A good one should show you proportion of limbs/ how to draw hands and feet/ and everything to do with faces. I'm sure you can find one with the power of google. Then go away and looks at other art, this will be in your case art of people. Do this by browsing through something like deviantart, find a piece you like and study it; what has the artist done?, how do I think he/she did that? Now practice the basics that you have learnt, no peaking at other peoples work only the tutorial/book. Do these little 'doodles' several times a day, then once you feel you have an understanding and a style move on to drawing people/portraits with the person infront of you. Keep practicing, you can go to those naked drawing classes like truewolf and watch other people like 1chains1 and hone your skills. Most of all practice! N.B: no single way is right or wrong, everyone has found their own way into art, so the best thing you can do is try everything and practice!
[img]http://cdn.dickblick.com/items/705/19/70519-1001-3ww-l.jpg[/img] This book works beyond wonders. Also draw from life, and with different materials.
[QUOTE=Scrub;18961021][img]http://cdn.dickblick.com/items/705/19/70519-1001-3ww-l.jpg[/img] This book works beyond wonders. Also draw from life, and with different materials.[/QUOTE] This is a good book. Make sure to be careful with it though, it is very controversial because some people feel it is a little too influential on one's drawing style. Specifically, you may end up drawing these ultra buff balloon-muscled people. But I have the book too, and study from it often. These are also good books: The Human Figure by John Vanderpoel Complete Guide to Drawing from Life by George Bridgman (this may be the most important figure drawing book you will own) Figure Drawing for All It's Worth by Andrew Loomis (And this may be the most important figure drawing book you will own... it really depends whether Bridgman or Loomis clicks more for you. You should start with Loomis though, Bridgman is a little more advanced) You can find the Bridgman books and the Loomis books online. You can get PDFs of Loomis's books here [url]http://alexhays.com/loomis/[/url] Unfortunately, you'll have to work from PDFs on Loomis's books. The originals are all out of print, and buying them used can be upwards of 200 dollars. However, Bridgman and Vanderpoel books can be found ultra cheap (5 bucks a piece) online. Or you can probably find them at your local library. These books shall be your arsenal of learning, and they are the only things you'll need for a long time.
The man makes a good point, It really has fucked up my style quite a bit and it took a while into my life drawing classes until the bad habits ended up wearing thin.
[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;18956637]Yes, but that's not what makes you a good artist. You have to develop your own style, and you need a very good teacher to help you do that. And that's why simple practice and basic instruction is peerless when it comes to art. Not to mention a lot of places that teach art, especially art schools, will pull you around by your dick for money. So you still need to be able to recognize things for yourself, which is why studying artists is important.[/QUOTE] You learn the fundamentals and realism before you develop your own style. That is what makes an artist like Mattise good. He drew very good expressionism pieces but he had the ability paint realism very well. (not a huge fan of expressionism in general but this is a good example) Later work, [img_thumb]http://crfranke.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/henri-matisse-the-dessert-harmony-in-red.jpg[/img_thumb] Earlier work, [img_thumb]http://www.chess-theory.com/images1/01503_henri_matisse.jpg[/img_thumb] You can't jump into a style like his later style without a proper grounding, and if you do that's called folk art or outsider art.
Yeaaaaaah! [img]http://mangabibliotekarien.blogg.se/images/2008/beginners-manga_22584856.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Sonicyouth;18964308]Yeaaaaaah! [img]http://mangabibliotekarien.blogg.se/images/2008/beginners-manga_22584856.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] I will rape and murder your family
Practice makes perfect.
[QUOTE=Ajacks;18964118]You learn the fundamentals and realism before you develop your own style. That is what makes an artist like Mattise good. He drew very good expressionism pieces but he had the ability paint realism very well. (not a huge fan of expressionism in general but this is a good example) Later work, [img_thumb]http://crfranke.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/henri-matisse-the-dessert-harmony-in-red.jpg[/img_thumb] Earlier work, [img_thumb]http://www.chess-theory.com/images1/01503_henri_matisse.jpg[/img_thumb] You can't jump into a style like his later style without a proper grounding, and if you do that's called folk art or outsider art.[/QUOTE] I admit I wasn't clear in my intention. What I was trying to say was, don't reply on instruction to do art. Learn how to do things, and build from there. I'm just trying to say that you should always experiment and develop your own voice. [editline]09:08PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Sonicyouth;18964308]Yeaaaaaah! [img]http://mangabibliotekarien.blogg.se/images/2008/beginners-manga_22584856.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Don't fucking do that. Because if any of you, and I mean any of you, anonymous viewers included(I'm looking at YOU john) do buy this book and follow it's instructions, I will grind your bones into bread and feed it to your fucking family.
All I can say is, practice, a lot, don't ever put the pencil down, be drawing all the time.
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