Hey DD, in advance I apologize for the long read.
Basically, today I smoked a joint with a friend and at first, maybe the first five minutes I felt absolutely nothing. Then I went to get rid of the roach and as I started completely flipping out.
What was weird is that my friend was completely fine, he didn't get high at all - he felt nothing.
Anyways, everything became slow, and I was losing memory of my actions like a second ago. Vision was blurred out and everything sounded way louder that it actually was.
Now that would've been fine, but as soon as this started happening, I started getting extremely paranoid and anxious for no reason. I went upstairs and sat down, eventually I lied down.
Then my heart was beating really fast, my throat went really dry even after I drank loads of water. There was also a weird feeling going through my body. It was like a wave of heat (I really don't know how to describe it) going from my feet to my head, it felt the most around my crotch. This was really uncomfortable and made me feel awkward. I started panicking, and maybe even had a slight panic attack. I couldn't calm down.
Time was going really slow, and my actions were quite slow, impaired, blurry speech, however, I was having loads of thoughts going through me at once, and most of them were negative, how my parents would get home etc. This was also worsened by the fact that my parents tried to call me twice, but I didn't answer.
Everything felt shit, I was freaking out, and while I was going insane, my friend was fine. He was on the computer and I was lying down with my eyes shut. Every sound he made (like clicking the mouse) made me jump and scare myself.
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It took probably two hours for everything to go back to normal. I had slept a little during the two hours, and when I woke up it was gradually getting better, 'til all that was left of my horrible feeling mainly dizziness.
Another thing to know is that I had smoked the same weed before, but nowhere near as much and it was at least 50%-50% with tobacco. Usually I wouldn't get very high, just a little relaxed, light headed and giggly. Also, I have been drinking a little alcohol two nights before today, but I didn't get very drunk, only had a few drinks. I doubt it was caused by that though.
Anyways, so I was just wondering, has anyone else experienced this? It was probably the worst combination of feelings I had gone through, and it was very weird that my friend was totally fine and it was just me who was panicking.
you just got high on a sativa and it made your anxiety worse. You my friend should stay away from sativas.
also, everything you described is what it feels like to get high.
you were high as fuck, enjoy it.
your heart will beat fast, don't worry. You will get dry mouth, don't worry.
You where horribly experiencing being high as a kite ?
[editline]9th October 2011[/editline]
//does not compute
Haha, I wish I could have enjoyed it. I as I said, I (think) had a mild panic attack and was going absolutely crazy. Not to mention those waves of some fucked up feeling going through my body. It was in sync with my heart beat as well, actually I thought that I could feel my blood circulate through my body. My muscles were twitchy, and I was shaking a little. It also felt sometimes like my body was rocking around.
I honestly did not enjoy it whatsoever and was just waiting for it to end. I also had thoughts going through me that it wouldn't go away and last forever, seeing as this was the first time this had ever happened to me I actually made myself believe it.
Also, I had been nervous before when smoking, but I never felt this worried about nothing in particular. I was just anxious... about everything and the fact that so many negative thoughts were going into my head all at once (really, I had like 10 different thoughts coming into my head like every couple of seconds, I couldn't focus just on one thing) it just made my anxiety worse.
Anyways, do you guys reckon that this will have any effects on me for the next few days? Like will I be more nervous/anxious, etc?
Thanks
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@[b]kaskade700[/b] - as I said, I have never been so anxious in my life, and I just couldn't function properly. I couldn't focus on one thing meaning I couldn't calm down, and it felt like my heart and my mind were racing, but my physical actions were very slow as well as 2 minutes felt like 15.
the body thing, completely normal, in fact it should be enjoyable but maybe you just dont like it. Anxiety however, you should try indica strains because you have a bad reaction to sativas because of your anxiety.
also nothing is going to happen long term with the anxiety.
smoke more suitable amounts.
try meth
Had something similar when I was just a newbie, only I didn't get anxious or paranoid; I had smoked all evening and eventually went home and smoked some more in the kitchen with a friend of mine. Suddenly I could barely stand on my feet and felt like fainting, my vision wasn't only blurry as fuck, it was like half of it was static -like static on a tv-screen- and I could barely walk. My face was all pale and I was holding myself on the kitchen counter and leaning against the wall while carefully finding my way to the sofa. I lied down for a minute, I started breathing heavily, my heart was racing and when closing my eyes I saw some random visuals like laughing horse heads spinning really fast. Felt kinda nauseous too.
Eventually when I recovered I grabbed something to eat and everything was fine, then I just went to bed.
Calm music, deep slow breaths, and remember the fact that no one has ever died from smoking pot. I'd take 50 mg of Benadryl too. It may make you drowsy but it will help with the anxiety.
That always works for me.
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reminds me of op
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reminds me of op[/QUOTE]
That's kind of what was happening inside. Fucking hate that. Also, still dunno how my friend was alright.
Maybe he's a lot more tolerant.
twitching is normal as well, sometimes get that when i'm blazed. Annoying really.
[QUOTE=Justtin;32702995]That's kind of what was happening inside. Fucking hate that. Also, still dunno how my friend was alright.
Maybe he's a lot more tolerant.[/QUOTE]
he probably was enjoying the high. I like the waves of energy through me, it makes me want to move around and dance.
He said he just had dry mouth and was a little giggly, but he was just a little chilled back and was telling me to be cool until I lied down and stayed calm for ages.
I'm still a little paranoid, and I dunno why, my parents are back and I was talking to them and as acting completely normal, but every once in a while I just got feeling or paranoia that come and go.
wish i could get that fucked up
[QUOTE=Justtin;32703125]He said he just had dry mouth and was a little giggly, but he was just a little chilled back and was telling me to be cool until I lied down and stayed calm for ages.
I'm still a little paranoid, and I dunno why, my parents are back and I was talking to them and as acting completely normal, but every once in a while I just got feeling or paranoia that come and go.[/QUOTE]
Pot might not be your drug if it is affecting you this severely. Anxiety can be severely impacted by most drugs, and for some people it just doesn't work out. You should try an Indica if you can get it and see how that feels. You may need to ease into it, smoking like 1 hit at a time and that may allow you to find your panic threshold and stay below it. I had to stick to one or two hits for the longest time because any more and I would end up shaking and hyperventilating due to panic attacks.
The issue is people who have anxiety problems [I have PTSD] are generally very aware of the state of their body. Smoking pot throws your perception for a loop, and physical symptoms become much more frightening because you are thinking of possible horrible outcomes.
Remember -
There is no pressure to smoke more.
Smoke until you feel good, and that is enough for a beginner.
You are on a drug
Your judgement is impaired, so don't try and analyze your physical well being. Everything inside you is working A-OK.
You are completely safe, and should enjoy it because it will end within 2 hours.
The biggest key in ending panic is to not think about panic-inducing things. Develop a mantra like what I've posted above, and think [or say] it word by word over and over again while breathing slowly. Like prayer, a mantra forces your mind to be blank of negative thought, which allows your physiological state to restore to normal, rather than being perpetuated by your fear. Like meditation, the repeating of a comforting thought accompanied by deep breathing will force your body to relax, and even if it does not stop the panic attack, it will almost guaranteed lower the severity.
Maybe you should try a milder joint, and some milder weed? Don't start of with Skunk for example.
Smoked some terrible quality weed at an acquaintance's house once and it really messed me up. I got really sick feeling, strong headache, hot flash that made me break out in a cold sweat; once it peaked I got nauseous and ended going to the bathroom to throw up. After about 30 minutes once I threw up I felt much better.
Funny thing is I only took a few hits off the joint we had. Everyone else was fine, but it did me in hella bad.
saying to get an indica not a sativa is pointless if he's from ireland. Get whatever weed you can in UK and ireland.
[QUOTE=Bredirish123;32704344]Smoked some terrible quality weed at an acquaintance's house once and it really messed me up. I got really sick feeling, strong headache, hot flash that made me break out in a cold sweat; once it peaked I got nauseous and ended going to the bathroom to throw up. After about 30 minutes once I threw up I felt much better.
Funny thing is I only took a few hits off the joint we had. Everyone else was fine, but it did me in hella bad.[/QUOTE]
You had a panic attack. It can happen at complete random.
See my above posts so you can be prepared if it happens again.
[editline]9th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Angoose;32704408]saying to get an indica not a sativa is pointless if he's from ireland. Get whatever weed you can in UK and ireland.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I missed that.
In the OP's case, take it one hit at a time, and put about 3 minutes between hits when starting out.
You'll know when you feel it, and when you do, stop and wait to see how high you get.
If you feel that you need to be higher to enjoy yourself, chance another hit.
It's a great way to start out of you are a lightweight or have anxiety problems. After practicing that, you'll know your limits pretty well and will be able to smoke normally, and know when to quit.
[QUOTE=FreakyMe;32704421]You had a panic attack. It can happen at complete random.
See my above posts so you can be prepared if it happens again.[/QUOTE]
Just got done reading that, and the weird thing is I wasn't really in a panicky state of mind. Before it hit I was totally fine and just having a good time. Once I started to get sick I just thought to myself "fuck, I feel like shit."
Never happened again though, I smoked again later that night from what another close friend had and it was just fine.
I had an experience [I]somewhat[/I] [I]similar[/I] to this a few weeks ago. First and last time it's ever happened, kind of out of the blue. Lasted about 4 hours. I only had two tokes which made it so mysterious, but I remember the smoke being [B]really[/B] strong. I posted the story on reddit the day after it happened so here, read this MOTHERFUCKER:
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A few minutes after toking is when it hit. I was feeling the typical high I normally do, just much more relaxed and kind of a warm buzz feeling, along with more interesting thoughts. Suddenly at one point though I remember feeling a distinctly new feeling of a head high. It wasn't very pleasant as it hit, so I picked up a flashlight on the table next to me and shone it at the ground to distract myself a bit.
As I did this, I started getting lost in my own thoughts and suddenly lost complete touch with reality. I began to somewhat black out what felt like every half-second. I completely lost myself and for the few seconds that felt like a day in another dimension it was only me, the flashlight, my thoughts and blackness. I could still function on the outside - after this initially happened I was able to put the flashlight back where it was and slowly turn it off. Then I sat there some more, getting more and more lost in my thoughts and what almost felt like losing the ability to sense my surroundings. It was like flashing in and out of unconsciousness and half-consciousness.
So I got up very suddenly and told everybody what was going on, in kind of a panic. Nothing felt real and I was constantly snapping back into my brain. I couldn't understand how I was able to get up and walk and still talk normally, but I couldn't feel shit. After talking I wondered I just talked if it didn't feel like I did. I put my hands on my head and could barely feel it. I walked outside in what would've looked like a bit of a trance and just laid down on a bench tripping out and surprising myself with the thought that "Holy shit this is real". I think at one point I walked back inside and told them what was going on and one of them brought me inside his house for a glass of water.
As I sat on a chair letting myself absorb the situation, I felt as if it was wearing off. So I finished off the water and head back into the garage with them, still somewhat off feeling. Thinking it was over, I let myself relax and just ended up thinking idly about stuff, making it worse again as I was drawn back out of reality and into my thoughts. Essentially, this loop of getting used to it and then it getting bad again continued for the next while as we waited for some friends to come by. Eventually they came by and I gave up and said I was walking home - there was no way I could enjoy the night when everything felt like a dream within multiple other dreams.
So I chilled at home for the next few hours talking to my parents, telling them what was going on (though passing it off as something to do with what I ate), until eventually the constant snapping in and out of reality wore off enough to the point where I could maintain steady thoughts and go to bed comfortable. It's the next morning now and I'm feeling well-rested.
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To anybody that says one should enjoy this experience - stop. It's very hard to enjoy, even once you accept it and are comfortable. I've had a decent variety of experiences with cannabis, but this is certainly one I am beyond uncomfortable with. I remember friends saying I looked really pale at the time too, and that says a lot, because I'm naturally a very light-toned person.
[QUOTE=Bredirish123;32704494]Just got done reading that, and the weird thing is I wasn't really in a panicky state of mind. Before it hit I was totally fine and just having a good time. Once I started to get sick I just thought to myself "fuck, I feel like shit."
Never happened again though, I smoked again later that night from what another close friend had and it was just fine.[/QUOTE]
Panic attacks are not entirely mental, they are also systemic. Seeing as it is of the brain, a panic attack can manifest in many different ways. Some people report anything ranging from paranoia full blown psychosis at the worst. Some feel pain, others get nauseous and vomit.
You can have a panic attack without even feeling anxious.
I had the same experience on my first time having a sativa strand. Still am yet to find indica again...
Umm, today I was pretty sleepy and a little disoriented at school, but everything was alright after I drank a bottle of BPM (energy drink). I dunno if it was because I went to bed late the night before and lacked sleep or because of my previous experience. I had a test as well, and kept mixing up which questions I had done etc. But in the end I was alright. I'm gonna go to bed earlier tonight and hopefully I'll be completely normal.
Also, one more question. Is it possible that I had a shitty high because I had some negative feelings (was worried about something that happened earlier in the week) before I toked? Could them feelings be the root cause of my anxiety and paranoia?
Cheers errbody for all the help.
[QUOTE=Justtin;32713561]Umm, today I was pretty sleepy and a little disoriented at school, but everything was alright after I drank a bottle of BPM (energy drink). I dunno if it was because I went to bed late the night before and lacked sleep or because of my previous experience. I had a test as well, and kept mixing up which questions I had done etc. But in the end I was alright. I'm gonna go to bed earlier tonight and hopefully I'll be completely normal.
Also, one more question. Is it possible that I had a shitty high because I had some negative feelings (was worried about something that happened earlier in the week) before I toked? Could them feelings be the root cause of my anxiety and paranoia?
Cheers errbody for all the help.[/QUOTE]
yes, just like a negative feeling would ruin a trip of (shrooms or whatever) it can ruin highs. Just remember, you are doing it to relax, you have everything planned out. I remember it got posted somewhere in DD where someone puts a picture of the word in giant bold letters "RELAX" and it helped that person remind them to calm down. Its ingenious so try it out to see if it works for you, a positive attitude and environment is everything.
[QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;32713721]yes, just like a negative feeling would ruin a trip of (shrooms or whatever) it can ruin highs. Just remember, you are doing it to relax, you have everything planned out. I remember it got posted somewhere in DD where someone puts a picture of the word in giant bold letters "RELAX" and it helped that person remind them to calm down. Its ingenious so try it out to see if it works for you, a positive attitude and environment is everything.[/QUOTE]
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smoke up with a better set & setting, if ur toking up but in the back of ur head ur afraid of ur parents suddendly coming home early then get a different toking location
I can feel really sick sometimes when there is to much tobacco in the joint.
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