• HUMBLE PIE: Rudd 'ready to forgive and forget'
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[url=http://www.news.com.au/national/labor-mps-behind-a-kevin-rudd-comeback-say-he-is-ready-to-forgive/story-e6frfkvr-1226133560845][img]http://media.news.com.au/cs/newscomau/v2/_shared/base/css/images/icons/homepage-title.png[/img][/url] Source: [url]http://www.news.com.au/national/labor-mps-behind-a-kevin-rudd-comeback-say-he-is-ready-to-forgive/story-e6frfkvr-1226133560845[/url] [img]http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/09/09/1226133/503845-foreign-minister-kevin-rudd.jpg[/img] Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd is being touted for a return to the Lodge. Picture: Gary Ramage [release] • Kevin Rudd ready to 'forgive and forget' • [url=http://www.news.com.au/national/solution-on-refugees-involving-nauru-papua-new-guinea-and-malaysia-a-possibility/story-e6frfkvr-1226133024283]Gillard, Abbott in secret asylum talks[/url] • [url=http://www.news.com.au/national/silly-me-accused-mp-told-police/story-e6frfkvr-1226133191756]Depressed Senator was 'totally out of it'[/url] [B]ALLIES of Kevin Rudd are telling colleagues he is ready to forgive and forget if offered back the ALP leadership.[/B] Senior Government sources say a small group of MPs, who backed Mr Rudd in last year's coup, are trying to convince their colleagues that there will be no retribution if he is returned to the Lodge. As the 100th asylum seeker boat on Julia Gillard's watch sailed into Australia yesterday, Mr Rudd's backers vowed he was "no longer autocratic" and had eaten humble pie. They claimed he had learnt from his mistakes. One minister, who confirmed he had heard such statements, said no one should be fooled. "Rudd must think we all have the memories of goldfish," he said. As leadership tension increases, Ms Gillard has moved forward a scheduled Tuesday caucus meeting by a day to deal with the Malaysia deal fallout. However, the PM will come face to face with angry internal party critics who want hopeful refugees processed on Australian soil if Cabinet opts to forge ahead with processing asylum claims offshore, adding further fuel to party bickering. Rudd supporters - understood mainly to be from the Victorian Left and breakaway elements within the national Right - are trying to capitalise on the anxiety in the party room. "There is no move on. Everyone knows that," one senior MP and staunch Gillard ally said. "People considered close to him are certainly telling people around the place that Rudd is a changed man. It is also being said that he has learnt from the past, that he is much less autocratic now and that all is forgiven." Another senior Labor MP confirmed he had been told the same thing. "They are trying to win over others with the promise that he has somehow changed and there would be no jihad against those who knifed him," a senior Labor MP said. Another senior figure in the Government said no one in Cabinet believed Mr Rudd actively was involved in the latest leadership antics. Mr Rudd is recovering from heart surgery and is not expected to be back in Parliament until next month. "I don't think he is involved, he is just sitting back hoping that we will get so desperate that we will one day plead with him to come back," another senior MP said. A friend of Defence Minister Stephen Smith, whose name also has been offered up as a possible leadership alternative, said Mr Smith had no intention of doing anything but sticking by Ms Gillard. "What they are doing is starting up rumours about Smith as a way to get the debate going over the leadership - then they insert Rudd into the middle of it," the friend said. Other Labor sources have suggested former PM Bob Hawke privately may have been behind a push for Trade Minister Simon Crean. Mr Rudd could not be contacted yesterday[/release]
*knows nothing of Australian Politics* Could you explain a bit?
Why did I think of this as the band Humble Pie? :v:
[QUOTE=ewitwins;32207790]*knows nothing of Australian Politics* Could you explain a bit?[/QUOTE] Kevin Rudd used to be the PM but then he was sacked by his own party and replaced with Julia Gillard. Recently Julia Gillard has given us the carbon tax which pissed a bunch of people off. So now the ex-PM has higher approval ratings then the new PM who kicked the old PM in the dick for been shit. [editline]10th September 2011[/editline] So everyone wants Kevin Rudd back as PM
I can't tell what country this is supposed to be for, all I know is it's not the US.
Australia [editline]10th September 2011[/editline] Frankly our politics is shit and is a bunch of people trying to look good rather then doing shit.
I want John Howard back.
[QUOTE=famasfanalt;32208733]Australia [editline]10th September 2011[/editline] Frankly our politics is shit and is a bunch of people trying to look good rather then doing shit.[/QUOTE] Pfffft, come to the U.S., you'll have a new appreciation for your political situation.
[QUOTE=BradB;32208882]I want John Howard back.[/QUOTE] Get out. Why the hell do you want that?
John Howard was a sycophant to America and had some stupid ass ideas, but...
[QUOTE=CheeseMan;32209371]John Howard was a sycophant to America and had some stupid ass ideas, but...[/QUOTE] And he manufactured the Tampa crisis, 'stopped the boats' by reclassifying the Australian territory where they land as 'not australia', implemented workchoices (which labor merely watered down) and so on. [editline]10th September 2011[/editline] What baffles me is that for the most part, he got away with it. It would be like implementing a law which stated the crime of theft only applied to blue toothbrushes, and then claiming that they had virtually eliminated all instances of theft.
[QUOTE=lavacano;32208712]I can't tell what country this is supposed to be for, all I know is it's not the US.[/QUOTE] How about you read the URL of the source, or even the graphic right at the top of the post. Blind twat
:australia: Where we complain about a bad PM until we get a worse one, then complain about her until we get one slightly less bad back. It's going to go in a loop from here.
[QUOTE=Pocket Medic;32209865]:australia: Where we complain about a bad PM until we get a worse one, then complain about her until we get one slightly less bad back. It's going to go in a loop from here.[/QUOTE] Welcome to politics!
I thought this was about another Indie Bundle
[QUOTE=Contag;32209352]Get out. Why the hell do you want that?[/QUOTE] So that the chasers can return and make fun of him [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtWkksLCQLM[/media]
[QUOTE=shian;32209962]So that the chasers can return and make fun of him [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtWkksLCQLM[/media][/QUOTE] Okay that's a valid reason :v:
[QUOTE=shian;32209962]So that the chasers can return and make fun of him [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtWkksLCQLM[/media][/QUOTE] those were the worst segments on the chaser, dressing up in wacky outfits and yelling at someone isn't funny if they don't actually respond or interact in any way
[QUOTE=lavacano;32208712]I can't tell what country this is supposed to be for, all I know is it's not the US.[/QUOTE] Why would an Australian news site report on foreign news?
Even with the Labor party in the mess that it is, I would still vote for it rather than the Liberal party.
[QUOTE=Jabberwocky;32210700]Even with the Labor party in the mess that it is, I would still vote for it rather than the Liberal party.[/QUOTE] That's a shame.
[QUOTE=Jabberwocky;32210700]Even with the Labor party in the mess that it is, I would still vote for it rather than the Liberal party.[/QUOTE] I really don't like either, but same, though if Turnbull lead the libs then maybe I'd think about it. I find Abbot even worse than Gillard.
Meh, no matter who runs the country it's all the same bullshit.
[QUOTE=GunsNRoses2;32210802]I really don't like either, but same, though if Turnbull lead the libs then maybe I'd think about it. I find Abbot even worse than Gillard.[/QUOTE] I feel as if the Liberal party right now is too aggressive with their slandering of the Labor party without even offering what I consider to be better alternatives. But I guess the Labor party is making it too easy for them at the moment.
it's just the "right" decisions that have made these fucking awful conditions the liberal party elected Abbot as their leader, possibly one of the worst decisions they have made in recent history, as all Abbot is good at is just creating 5 second media grabs, show-boating without the ability to actually deliver, making him look like one of the most giant pricks on the planet to anyone with half a brain the labor party is stuck with good ol' Julia, a minister who was never really good at being a minister anyway. doesn't help that she's stuck with the "labor party can't do anything hurr" stigma from Rudd's term, nor that she wasn't able to get a absolute majority, meaning that some of the legislation that has passed under "her" term, like the Carbon Tax, is influenced (read: forced) by the Greens and Independants. doesn't help that Australia has an asylum seeker problem too, and that Abbot's spurting of "STOP THE BOATS STOP THE BOATS!!11!!" has turned the issue larger than it needs to be. also doesn't really help that the media is turning these small embers into a fire of nuclear proportions, with people like Andrew Bolt who are paid to spread their opinion like it's fact, or the the fact that Australian media tends to lean to the extreme right more than it does to the fair-right, where the Liberal Party and the Labor party are, respectively. [sp]Hyperbole may or may not be included in this post.[/sp]
Why must all democracies be 2 partied dickwaving that generates nothing but bad outcomes to the population that votes for them?
Expected something Humble Indie Bundle related
[QUOTE=Jelly;32210485]Why would an Australian news site report on foreign news?[/QUOTE] BBC reports on non-UK news, and I'm pretty sure the US has a news channel (other than BBC America which doesn't count) that reports foreign news*, so it stands to reason that Australian news networks could possibly report non-Australian news. The asterisked thing could be wrong because I haven't watched the utter garbage that is US news media in years.
[QUOTE=ReLak;32212247]that she wasn't able to get a absolute majority, meaning that some of the legislation that has passed under "her" term, like the Carbon Tax, is influenced (read: forced) by the Greens and Independants. doesn't help that Australia has an asylum seeker problem too, and that Abbot's spurting of "STOP THE BOATS STOP THE BOATS!!11!!" has turned the issue larger than it needs to be.[/QUOTE] Welcome to our system of politics, where the minor parties play a significant role. The liberals are called the coalition for a reason. Of course that changed two or so years ago, but eh. 3,000 asylum seekers are not a problem. It's not something of any kind of proportion that warrants much thought at all. The carbon tax is also not supported by the Greens, or Malcolm Turnbull, or anyone with half a bit of sense.
[QUOTE=famasfanalt;32208733]Australia [editline]10th September 2011[/editline] Frankly our politics is shit and is a bunch of people trying to look good rather then doing shit.[/QUOTE] You just described 90% of governments across the world.
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