• Mexican drug boss arrested after shootout
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[url]http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2010/04/201042345433232899.html[/url] [release][img]http://english.aljazeera.net/mritems/Images//2010/4/23/201042344749763371_5.jpg[/img] One of Mexico's most wanted men has been arrested after a shootout on the outskirts of Mexico City that left at least three people dead. The United States had offered a $2m reward for information leading to the arrest of Gerardo Alvarez Vasquez and is now seeking his extradition. Known as "El Indio" or "El Chayan", Vasquez has been blamed for a rise in violence in states around the Mexican capital as he has fought for control of the Beltran Leyva drug cartel. Authorities said Vazquez, 45, was arrested along with 14 other suspected drug traffickers the shootout in Huixquilucan, just west of the capital, on Wednesday night. Investigators did not say whether the three dead were soldiers or suspected drug gang members. The military said more than a dozen guns and a grenade were seized during the operation. "Cases such as this show the Mexican government's firm decision to continue fighting narco-traffickers," the attorney general's office said in a written statement. Among those arrested was Ascencion Sepulveda Salto, also known as "El Gato", believed to be a powerful cartel lieutenant in Guerrero state. [B]Struggle for power[/B] Edgar Luis Villegas Melendez, a Mexican general, said Vazquez had partnered with Edgar Valdez Villarreal, a US-born enforcer known as "La Barbie" in his quest for control over the Beltran Leyva cartel. Authorities say the battle for the cartel began after Mexican marines killed Arturo Beltran Leyva, the group's leader, during a December shootout at an upscale apartment complex in Cuernavaca, south of Mexico City. The struggle for power has triggered dozens of killings in Morelos state, where Cuernavaca is located, and in neighbouring Guerrero, authorities say. The arrest of Vazquez and Salto "significantly affects the operations and security of the Beltran Leyva organisation", Melendez said. The US state department said Vazquez was a key member of the Arturo Beltran Leyva cartel and that he has overseen major deals involving the trafficking of crystal methamphetamine and other drugs in Mexico, Central America, South America and the US. He was indicted on four drug-related counts in 1997 in California. "This significant arrest is another demonstration of the commitment and efforts being made by the Mexican government to disrupt and dismantle these violent drug trafficking organisations and bring their leaders to justice," Paul Knierim, a US drug enforcement administration spokesman, said. At least seven major drug cartels operate in Mexico and an estimated 22,700 peoplehave been killed in Mexico's drug war since December 2006, when a military crackdown on the cartels began.[/release] That must [I]blow[/I] for him.
This is only the beginning. It's time we blew a hole in the drug cartels, literally and figuratively. It wouldn't hurt if they legalized and regulated some of the less harmful narcotics as well.
Seems like a movie
Why is he wearing a traffic police vest
Durgz
The cop behind him looks like a total badass.
Fuck the cop that facial hair is awesome.
[QUOTE=Disgruntled;21521150]This is only the beginning. It's time we blew a hole in the drug cartels, literally and figuratively. It wouldn't hurt if they legalized and regulated some of the less harmful narcotics as well.[/QUOTE] Legalize all of them.
[QUOTE=Billiam;21528251]Legalize all of them.[/QUOTE] Legalize some of them. Like Marijuana, which, if memory serves, is the most used drug on earth. So many deaths due to violence over who can push where and trivial matters such as that can prevented by legalizing it.
He looks like he's made out of plastic god dammit.
[QUOTE=davidofmk771;21528304]Legalize some of them. Like Marijuana, which, if memory serves, is the most used drug on earth. So many deaths due to violence over who can push where and trivial matters such as that can prevented by legalizing it.[/QUOTE] Legalise all of them. How fucking hypocritical is it that someone can be allowed to do one drug and not another for some arbitrary reason?
[QUOTE=davidofmk771;21528304]Legalize some of them. Like Marijuana, which, if memory serves, is the most used drug on earth. So many deaths due to violence over who can push where and trivial matters such as that can prevented by legalizing it.[/QUOTE] It wouldn't be the most used, maybe most used illegal drug. I'd say caffeine would be the most used drug. But i agree about legalizing some, good progress in California, Oregon and possibly Washington (I think Denver too for 2012 ballot) with marijuana. I reckon in 10 years it'l be legal in a lot of places, and after it is seen it works better than prohibition I think other soft drugs might be legalized or at least decriminalized.
[QUOTE=davidofmk771;21528304]Legalize some of them. Like Marijuana, which, if memory serves, is the most used drug on earth. So many deaths due to violence over who can push where and trivial matters such as that can prevented by legalizing it.[/QUOTE] Legalizing cocaine or heroin could reduce ODs caused by impure product.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;21533742]Legalise all of them. How fucking hypocritical is it that someone can be allowed to do one drug and not another for some arbitrary reason?[/QUOTE] True, but I don't think drugs like Meth should be legal, maybe decriminalized so the users don't go to jail, and the suppliers targeted. but I don't think the government should be selling them, just decriminalizing.
[QUOTE=GunsNRoses;21533852]True, but I don't think drugs like Meth should be legal, maybe decriminalized so the users don't go to jail, and the suppliers targeted. but I don't think the government should be selling them, just decriminalizing.[/QUOTE] The government won't be selling it, they will be regulating it so it is safer. Also so it is easier to seek medical treatment for drug problems. Someone should be allowed to smoke meth if they want to, it's their life and their body.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;21533907]The government won't be selling it, they will be regulating it so it is safer. Also so it is easier to seek medical treatment for drug problems. Someone should be allowed to smoke meth if they want to, it's their life and their body.[/QUOTE] Well i meant i don't think the government should tax/regulate like alcohol. I agree its safer, and that prohibition normally leads to more users but i don't know if that would be the case for drugs like meth. I think legalizing softer drugs would kill alot of the black market for harder drugs treating it as a health issue instead of a criminal issue one is the best option. I see your points but I'm not convinced legalizing the harder ones as opposed to decriminalizing is a good idea. [editline]01:39AM[/editline] I like having discussions =)
[QUOTE=GunsNRoses;21534015]Well i meant i don't think the government should tax/regulate like alcohol. I agree its safer, and that prohibition normally leads to more users but i don't know if that would be the case for drugs like meth. I think legalizing softer drugs would kill alot of the black market for harder drugs treating it as a health issue instead of a criminal issue one is the best option. I see your points but I'm not convinced legalizing the harder ones as opposed to decriminalizing is a good idea. [editline]01:39AM[/editline] I like having discussions =)[/QUOTE] I'm more for freedom. I don't care the government calls it a health issue or if they say it's the best thing since sliced bread. Bottom line to me is someone should be allowed to do as they please unless they hurt or threaten to hurt another person or their property. I don't care about the black market that much, I don't care about the trade, all I give a fuck about is that the government can send me to jail for something I do privately, without hurting someone else.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;21534073]I'm more for freedom. I don't care the government calls it a health issue or if they say it's the best thing since sliced bread. Bottom line to me is someone should be allowed to do as they please [B]unless they hurt or threaten to hurt another person or their property. [/B]I don't care about the black market that much, I don't care about the trade, all I give a fuck about is that the government can send me to jail for something I do privately, without hurting someone else.[/QUOTE] Well there's the problem with the harder drugs, for every few responsible people with hard drugs there would sure be alot of people who allow it to ruin their lives. But I see your point, I just think the cost of freedom with hard drugs might be a little too high. Anyway, if they were decriminalized, users wouldn't go to jail, merely the dealers and shit.
[QUOTE=GunsNRoses;21534163]Well there's the problem with the harder drugs, for every few responsible people with hard drugs there would sure be alot of people who allow it to ruin their lives. But I see your point, I just think the cost of freedom with hard drugs might be a little too high. Anyway, if they were decriminalized, users wouldn't go to jail, merely the dealers and shit.[/QUOTE] Well what about alcohol? Plenty more domestic violence comes from alcohol than any "hard" drug, which is legal and even endorsed by politicians and athletes. Also, what is the logic in decriminalization? It's not that bad to use it, but god forbid if you sell it to someone.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;21534231]Well what about alcohol? Plenty more domestic violence comes from alcohol than any "hard" drug, which is legal and even endorsed by politicians and athletes. Also, what is the logic in decriminalization? It's not that bad to use it, but god forbid if you sell it to someone.[/QUOTE] But alcohol is also used alot more than any hard drug, although that doesn't make it any better., as yeah, it's still worse than many illegal dugs. Decriminalization treats it as a health issue for the user, it doesn't send the message that it's not bad to use, but instead of sending the user to jail they can get better help. I'm for legalization if less people would use it, alcohol use went up during prohibition then came down after it ended, but as i said before i don't know if it'd be the case for drugs like meth and heroin.
[QUOTE=GunsNRoses;21534336]But alcohol is also used alot more than any hard drug, although that doesn't make it any better., as yeah, it's still worse than many illegal dugs. Decriminalization treats it as a health issue for the user, it doesn't send the message that it's not bad to use, but instead of sending the user to jail they can get better help. I'm for legalization if less people would use it, alcohol use went up during prohibition then came down after it ended, but as i said before i don't know if it'd be the case for drugs like meth and heroin.[/QUOTE] I've never seen someone on heroin beat their wife. They'd rather sleep for 10 hours.
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21534495]I've never seen someone on heroin beat their wife. They'd rather sleep for 10 hours.[/QUOTE] What? When did i say that?
[QUOTE=GunsNRoses;21534705]What? When did i say that?[/QUOTE] Well, why would you want to legalize marijuana and not cocaine or heroin?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;21534809]Well, why would you want to legalize marijuana and not cocaine or heroin?[/QUOTE] I wasn't aware the only harm one could achieve is physical. I don't think all drugs should be treated the same, as they aren't.
[IMG]http://www.koreanbeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/oldboy.jpeg[/IMG] He reminds me of oldboy.
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