• Super Doug Discussion - Fibbus - Discuss this! (Piracy) [EFFORT] [ACTUAL DISCUSSION THREAD
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Hey Facepunch, Doug here. Got an interesting discussion topic for ya today, regarding piracy and Facepunch. As many of you know discussion of piracy is a bannable offense on Facepunch, except for in one section which you may not have known about, [B]the Gold Members Forum[/B]: [img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/torrentees.png[/img] [I]Pictured: Piracy in the GMF.[/I] Now, by hosting these talks on Facepunch, garry (real name: Garry Newman) is clearly aiding/facilitating copyright infringement for everyone on his forums with Gold Membership or access to the Gold Members Forums. The same argument was leveed with some degree of success against the owners of The Pirate Bay when they were convicted of accessory to crime against copyright laws in a decision by a Swedish court in April 2009. Copyright laws are generally much more lax in Sweden than in the United Kingdom where Facepunch Studios is registered as a company. Garry Newman could easily be charged and convicted if the proper authorities were alerted and he were taken to court. Based on this knowledge you should have discerned by now that garry is either a hero for standing up against corporate greed, or a massive hypocrite of the highest caliber. [img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/piracy.png[/img] [I]Pictured: Four of many bans proving garry to be a hypocrite.[/I] garry has been known to ban users for discussing the piracy of his game (Garry's Mod, $10 on the Steam platform) in all forums; however, he allows discussion and trading of torrent links/access to a wuala with a massive amount of pirated games in it in the GMF. Even other Steam games, made by the company who accepted him into their online catalogue of games and made him all of his wealth, are up for grabs in the GMF... seems kind of like a slap to Steam/Valve's face when you think about it right? I've thought up two topics for everyone to discuss, listed below: [B]1.[/B] Is garry a hypocrite or a hero? [B]2.[/B] Should garry allow talking about piracy in the Blue sections of the forums, or ban it in the Gold Members Forums? You can also bring up other topics to discuss, and feel free to voice your opinion even if you think its silly! No voice should go unheard in this. Personally, I think garry is a hypocrite, and I would liken the current situation with Facepunch to a drug dealer setting up a sandwich shop as a front to his cocaine smuggler business in the back room. The only thing different is Facepunch is the front and piracy is the cocaine. [B]v2 Special Content:[/B] The Gold Members in v1 were arguing that they use the thread for the discussion of torrenting linux distros, which is just absolutely not true: [img]http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8270/torrenteecontent.jpg[/img] [I]Pictured: Not even a little true. [/I] [B]v3 Special Content:[/B] Hey guys, just to give you an idea of what to expect in the next Doug Discussion Thread, lets just say it will be about the morality of international child labor. Look forward to it. Quote of the thread: "[I]You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself one.[/I]" -Henry David Thoreau :siren::siren::siren:[B][U][I]post and don't ever stop posting[/I][/U][/B]:siren::siren::siren: [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Doug" - verynicelady))[/highlight]
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I suppose this does make garry responsible somewhat. He shouldn't allow it in there I guess. It's weird because usually he covers his ass.
He is covering his ass by banning it on public boards. GMF is private so it isn't a problem.
This thread better not be closed. Its so true.
[QUOTE=Ali Legend;24518266]He is covering his ass by banning it on public boards. GMF is private so it isn't a problem.[/QUOTE] Ahh. So I guess that makes this thread invalid then.
So whose alt is this
[QUOTE=The mouse;24518290]So whose alt is this[/QUOTE] Are you serious?
[QUOTE=The mouse;24518290]So whose alt is this[/QUOTE] Guess. :frog:
Just because the GMF is private doesn't mean it's fine to discuss and share copyrighted files. Companies and artists are probably losing millions every year just because of Facepunch alone
I guess the mods will not care, they will ban you for the reason 'doug' and move on.
[QUOTE=Alfred Weedlord;24518389]Companies and artists are probably losing millions every year just because of Facepunch alone[/QUOTE] Yep, it sure seems like it.
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[QUOTE=Alfred Weedlord;24518389]Just because the GMF is private doesn't mean it's fine to discuss and share copyrighted files. Companies and artists are probably losing millions every year just because of Facepunch alone[/QUOTE] :lol:! It's fun to pull figures out of our asses. 10 billion people have suffered mental trauma and subsequently died from reading your post alone. Get real.
[QUOTE=Alfred Weedlord;24518389]Just because the GMF is private doesn't mean it's fine to discuss and share copyrighted files.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Alfred Weedlord;24518389]Just because the GMF is private doesn't mean it's fine to discuss and share copyrighted files. Companies and artists are probably losing millions every year just because of Facepunch alone[/QUOTE] They are probably gaining a lot fucking more just becouse of tpb alone. Free adverts.
I don't really see the problem, garry doesn't support it, he just doesn't ban gold members for talking about it in their own private area.
[QUOTE=Ali Legend;24518266]He is covering his ass by banning it on public boards. GMF is private so it isn't a problem.[/QUOTE] just because it's private doesn't make it legal. i don't get why i can't make you understand that. this is easily the third time you have tried to argue that in my threads. [B]it is still illegal silly, in fact its arguably even more sinister that he is trying to cover up his illegal activities in such a way.[/B]
Wait a second, I thought all Facepunch bans were now IP based.
[QUOTE=nanutek;24518402]I guess the mods will not care, they will ban you for the reason 'doug' and move on.[/QUOTE] Also this guy has a very valid point.
[QUOTE=gurlie doug;24518449]just because it's private doesn't make it legal. i don't get why i can't make you understand that. this is easily the third time you have tried to argue that in my threads. [B]it is still illegal silly, in fact its arguably even more sinister that he is trying to cover up his illegal activities in such a way.[/B][/QUOTE] why do you care so much and garry isn't responsible for the content that users put on facepunch, unless they're hosting the torrents on a facepunch server, there is no problem stop being a butthurt crybaby and go do something productive with your time
[QUOTE=Arachnidus;24518454]Wait a second, I thought all Facepunch bans were now IP based.[/QUOTE] Proxies.
[QUOTE=Arachnidus;24518454]Wait a second, I thought all Facepunch bans were now IP based.[/QUOTE] Proxies :pcgaming:
[QUOTE=HellSoldier;24518420]Yep, it sure seems like it.[/QUOTE] We all know companies overstimate hugely their losses from piracy, as most of us would do - to make as much money as possible.
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