• British woman who reported gang-rape in Dubai jailed on extra-marital sex charges; attackers go free
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[quote]A British tourist has been arrested and charged with illegal “extra-marital sex” in Dubai after telling police she had been gang raped. The 25-year-old woman, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, was on holiday in the United Arab Emirates when she was allegedly attacked by two British men last month. When she reported the rape at a police station, she was allegedly arrested for breaking Emirati laws against extra-marital sex, while her attackers have since flown home to the UK. The UK-based Detained in Dubai campaign group said she has been released on bail but had her passport confiscated, meaning she cannot leave the country, and could face trial for offences with punishments including jail, deportation, flogging and stoning to death. The group is in contact with the woman’s family, who claim the two men took it in turns to rape her while filming the attack at a hotel. “They have taken her passport as lawyers thrash it out. She is staying with an English family but she is absolutely terrified,” a family friend told The Sun. “She went to the police as the victim as one of the worst ordeals imaginable but she is being treated as the criminal.” Radha Stirling, the founder and director of Detained in Dubai, said the case a “tremendously disturbing“ example of long-running abuses in the holiday resort. "Police regularly fail to differentiate between consensual intercourse and violent rape,” she added. "Victims go to them expecting justice, and end up being prosecuted. They not only invalidate their victimisation, they actually punish them for it." A spokesperson for the Foreign and Commonwealth Office told The Independent it was aware of the case and providing support to the woman and her relatives, as well as remaining in contact with local authorities. Its travel advice for the UAE says all sexual relations outside marriage are considered illegal, whatever a couple’s relationship at home, alongside homosexual sex and same-sex marriages. “It’s against the law to live together, or to share the same hotel room, with someone of the opposite sex to whom you aren’t married or closely related,” the advice states. The laws, which can also see unmarried pregnant women and their partners jailed, have been used to criminalise rape victims including women from Norway and Australia, and several previous British victims. The burden of proof required for rape under the UAE’s interpretation of sharia law – a confession from the rapist or witness statements from four adult men – means that cases that reach court are heavily skewed in the defendant’s favour and are frequently dismissed or turned around to prosecute the alleged victim.[/quote] [url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-woman-tourist-arrested-charged-jail-dubai-gang-rape-extra-marital-sex-hotel-uae-police-a7420616.html[/url]
Uneducated question, but how come there aren't tourism bans to these countries?
[I]Why do people still go there!?[/I]
What a disgusting shithole of a country.
Yeah there's no way she's getting stoned to death
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51382799][I]Why do people still go there!?[/I][/QUOTE] Dubai is a beautiful city. It's a fucking shame it's ruled by such ugly laws and backward culture.
[QUOTE=glitchvid;51382846]Dubai is a beautiful city. It's a fucking shame it's ruled by such ugly laws and backward culture.[/QUOTE] and built by slave labor
To be honest you should not visit any kind of Arab country as a tourist except Kuwait and Jordan which are way better than the others.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51382799][I]Why do people still go there!?[/I][/QUOTE] I don't know, it's a beautiful city made for rich people, full of shopping malls and hotels with swimming parks attached. Don't know why people would want to go there on holiday.
[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;51382929]I don't know, it's a beautiful city made for rich people, full of shopping malls and hotels with swimming parks attached. Don't know why people would want to go there on holiday.[/QUOTE] the better question is why the average person is so unaware of the sociopolitical nightmare there
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51382799][I]Why do [u][i]western women[/i][/u] still go there!?[/I][/QUOTE] Fixed that for yah. For men, it sounds ok. Only okay, cause I would constantly think about how shitty of a system I am investing into when I buy a Ice-cream at the golden bricked water park built by indentured servants..
[QUOTE=bitches;51382945]the better question is why the average person is so unaware of the sociopolitical nightmare there[/QUOTE] My guess is that "Several Human Rights Violations" isn't too attractive in tourism campaigns.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51382799][I]Why do people still go there!?[/I][/QUOTE] I was thinking of going someday, honestly. Sure, it's an authoritarian, ass-backwards hellhole, but it's also undoubtedly the wealthiest place on the planet, and who knows how much longer it'll be around for? I don't think there's anywhere else on Earth that's even remotely close to comparable, nor do I think I'll see one within my lifetime. The argument of "I don't want to fund them" is also laughable. Tourism isn't exactly the thing that keeps Dubai up and running. Your four-day retreat there isn't going to make or break the country.
It's still awful but does it really count as gang rape when it's only two people? When I hear gang rape I think like 4-5 minimum.
[QUOTE=Monkah;51383105]I was thinking of going someday, honestly. Sure, it's an authoritarian, ass-backwards hellhole, but it's also undoubtedly the wealthiest place on the planet, and who knows how much longer it'll be around for? I don't think there's anywhere else on Earth that's even remotely close to comparable, nor do I think I'll see one within my lifetime. The argument of "I don't want to fund them" is also laughable. Tourism isn't exactly the thing that keeps Dubai up and running. Your four-day retreat there isn't going to make or break the country.[/QUOTE] apathy has never been a solid defense for supporting slave labor
[QUOTE=helifreak;51383136]It's still awful but does it really count as gang rape when it's only two people? When I hear gang rape I think like 4-5 minimum.[/QUOTE] i think gang just requires more than 1 attacker to suffice anyways, this is fucking digusting, and even more so considering the attackers are from the UK and have already been allowed to go back scott-free
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51382953]My guess is that "Several Human Rights Violations" isn't too attractive in tourism campaigns.[/QUOTE] Neither is "most attractive destination for unscrupulous rapists", I guess they left that one out of the brochure.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51382799][I]Why do people still go there!?[/I][/QUOTE] Because their car culture is one of the best in the world. Where else in the world are you going to find a 1400 HP Nissan Patrol? Other than that, it's a human rights nightmare.
[QUOTE=Derek_SM;51382831]Yeah there's no way she's getting stoned to death[/QUOTE] Imagine all the nothing that will happen in international relations if she does
It's sad that, in this day and age, we still have government systems that are run like archaic police states.
[QUOTE=Monkah;51383105]I was thinking of going someday, honestly. Sure, it's an authoritarian, ass-backwards hellhole, but it's also undoubtedly the wealthiest place on the planet, and who knows how much longer it'll be around for? I don't think there's anywhere else on Earth that's even remotely close to comparable, nor do I think I'll see one within my lifetime. The argument of "I don't want to fund them" is also laughable. Tourism isn't exactly the thing that keeps Dubai up and running. Your four-day retreat there isn't going to make or break the country.[/QUOTE] The Vatican. Edinborough Scotland, Highland Scotland. Giant's Causeway, Dublin Ireland. Amsterdam, Netherlands and the surrounding areas. Norway. Newfoundland (WHEN IT'S NOT SHIT, I mean seriously some days you can't see 20 feet ahead of you.) Canada, Rockies. NYC. Japan (Not for the weeb shit, it actually has a nice history imho.) Australia. Alps. I can go on, but the factor is that the Arab Gulf States aren't exclusive in how rich they are and although they do have an abundance of wealth a lot of it is spoiled on the moment and not putting anything into architecture. Sure you may like how everything looks but there's no significance beyond it other than cut-throat corporatism, backwards laws and slave labour.
This is all worded correctly and true? If so, holy fuck, if you applied everything Zarna (Hugh Mungus Lady) said to countries that this happens in it'd be pretty spot on this is kind of fucked to think about
this is rape culture
I always thought that the emirates were the normal country and the saudi arabia was the fucked up one, what the hell
[QUOTE]“It’s against the law to live together, or to share the same hotel room, with someone of the opposite sex to whom you aren’t married or closely related,” the advice states.[/QUOTE] Fuck off with these retarded laws. It's like their lawmakers read the Hays Code and didn't realize it was meant for American television, not a way of life.
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;51383908]Fuck off with these retarded laws. It's like their lawmakers read the Hays Code and didn't realize it was meant for American television, not a way of life.[/QUOTE] This is why it is important to maintain separation between religion and state
The middle east is very dangerous to travel in, especially if you are a woman. Reminds me of the Italian performance artist who hitchhiked trough the middle east in a wedding dress to prove muslims are peaceful. Her naked, raped, strangled and decomposing body was found near some bushes in the town of Tavşanlı in Turkey. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippa_Bacca[/url]
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;51384013]The middle east is very dangerous to travel in, especially if you are a woman. Reminds me of the Italian performance artist who hitchhiked trough the middle east in a wedding dress to prove muslims are peaceful. Her naked, raped, strangled and decomposing body was found near some bushes in the town of Tavşanlı in Turkey. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippa_Bacca[/url][/QUOTE] Sometimes I wonder if you ever talked to a muslim. Every time I call you out for making broad generalizations, you say "no, but look at these extremist ones" which is correct. But then you go back to generalizing them all again in the next thread
Idunno if it's my sleepy brain but I've been wondering: Why not set up a PMC with the goal of protecting a client/travellers by any means necessary? Travelers Protection Force or some silly shit like that...
[QUOTE=nagachief;51384115]Idunno if it's my sleepy brain but I've been wondering: Why not set up a PMC with the goal of protecting a client/travellers by any means necessary? Travelers Protection Force or some silly shit like that...[/QUOTE] They have something like that and it's called Extradition. Only problem is that both countries have to agree to it.
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