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[QUOTE]A research team led by scientists at Imperial College London said that while normally the brain works on independent networks performing separate functions such as vision, movement and hearing, under LSD the separateness of these networks breaks down, leading to a more unified system.[/QUOTE]
It is my thought that many psychoactive drugs accomplish this on some level.
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So, What there saying is that a baby has a single hive mind?
Don't worry I'm only taking LSD to get in touch with my inner child again
[QUOTE=Passing;50115310]So, What there saying is that a baby has a single hive mind?[/QUOTE]
Having done psychedelics in the past, I'd say it's more of a your mind experiencing everything as new and interesting, instead of referring to past experiences to categorize what's currently happening. You can spend an hour staring at your own hand and the intricacies of your fingerprints, and then you discover you have another hand, and then you become aware of your tongue, or the clothes on your body.
It's very weird and difficult to explain to someone who hasn't experienced a trip like that themselves.
[QUOTE=V12US;50115330]Having done psychedelics in the past, I'd say it's more of a your mind experiencing everything as new and interesting, instead of referring to past experiences to categorize what's currently happening. You can spend an hour staring at your own hand and the intricacies of your fingerprints, and then you discover you have another hand, and then you become aware of your tongue, or the clothes on your body.
It's very weird and difficult to explain to someone who hasn't experienced a trip like that themselves.[/QUOTE]
You start using your brain.
You do kinda feel like a kid in the sense that its like you're seeing everything for the first time. Truly a strange experience.
[QUOTE=AkujiTheSniper;50115316]Don't worry I'm only taking LSD to get in touch with my inner child again[/QUOTE]
Legitimately a big part of the reason for me taking acid every now and again.
[QUOTE=V12US;50115330]Having done psychedelics in the past, I'd say it's more of a your mind experiencing everything as new and interesting, instead of referring to past experiences to categorize what's currently happening. You can spend an hour staring at your own hand and the intricacies of your fingerprints, and then you discover you have another hand, and then you become aware of your tongue, or the clothes on your body.
It's very weird and difficult to explain to someone who hasn't experienced a trip like that themselves.[/QUOTE]
Which is pretty much what it's like to be a child! Everything is novel; it's all new and exciting; you experience so much awe and wonder over the most simple of things which, as an adult, you don't really notice or put much thought into.
It makes sense, though I think the title is wording it to deliberately put down stoners. When you are high, everything feels new, feels great, you want to explore everything, I can only imagine what LSD does with this.
I think it's the same for shrooms
We've known this for a while. Drugs like LSD have been shown to revert the grey matter in the brain (more mature, older tissue that operates like a well traveled highway between commonly used portions of the brain) to white matter (younger tissue that hasn't been set into the "patterns" of grey matter). So when you say that you are "reverting the brain to a childlike state" with drugs like LSD, you literally are. You're removing the grey matter for a time and allowing the brain to make new connections and inferences along paths it doesn't travel down normally.
[QUOTE=ImimI;50115512]We've known this for a while. Drugs like LSD have been shown to revert the grey matter in the brain (more mature, older tissue that operates like a well traveled highway between commonly used portions of the brain) to white matter (younger tissue that hasn't been set into the "patterns" of grey matter). So when you say that you are "reverting the brain to a childlike state" with drugs like LSD, you literally are. You're removing the grey matter for a time and allowing the brain to make new connections and inferences along paths it doesn't travel down normally.[/QUOTE]
Where the hell did you get this information? I seriously want to know, I googled several things but nothing was coming up on this.
I mean, I'm getting more things about schizophrenia yeah, but nothing about conversion of white to gray matter.
yea, but the thing is how psychedelics also have side effects and abuse can lead to a long time of getting back to yourself, or at the least, back to a functional member of society.
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[QUOTE=Megadave;50115531]Where the hell did you get this information? I seriously want to know, I googled several things but nothing was coming up on this.[/QUOTE]
sounds like bullshit IMO, but I wouldn't mind being proven wrong.
[QUOTE=Megadave;50115531]Where the hell did you get this information? I seriously want to know, I googled several things but nothing was coming up on this.[/QUOTE]
I'd like to know too. I was under the impression that grey matter was the neurons while white matter was the pathways between them.
[QUOTE=Megadave;50115531]Where the hell did you get this information? I seriously want to know, I googled several things but nothing was coming up on this.
I mean, I'm getting more things about schizophrenia yeah, but nothing about conversion of white to gray matter.[/QUOTE]
Going to be honest, I remembered this from a period of my life that was heavily influenced by marijuana. It could be full-on bullshit, but I swear I read a medical study that detailed this. I will try to provide it within the next hour.
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[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23727882[/url] (Indications that Neuroplasticity are increased by psilocybin)
This seems to be pretty much the same as the article above, so maybe it was all a drug-induced craze that I remembered. Sorry.
[url]http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2015-12/acon-lc121015.php[/url]
Well, Ill tell you this, there is a big difference between grey matter and white matter, white matter is full of neuronal axons that are covered in myelin (a form of fat) and that is why its white, where as grey matter is full of the actual cell body, with a much higher density of cells without the myelin. So to say that grey matter is reverted to white matter is completely false, as it would mean that the location of the cell would become an axon and the cell body would either die (which can be considered pruning) or be moved, which would not happen, and if it did, it would be irreversible and be considered brain damage.
I love lsd
wow what is going on. the day i decide to try lsd again and i keep seeing articles about it everywhere i go today.
gonna make my brain so infantile it'll learn to walk again
Hm. I wonder how a similar test with different chemicals (such as 1P-LSD, AL-LAD, ETH-LAD,etc.) would play out. Would the results be almost identical? almost un-related? very interested.
I've taken both mushrooms and LSD, or what people call LSD nowadays.
Either way, LSD gives you a really strong sense of self and spirituality, it's understandable how so many people who grew up in the 60's think crystals have magic powers.
I'm wondering now if it's possible to use LSD for the medicinal purpose of "re-building" certain parts of the brain by making it "restart" certain parts of it? Kinda like turning a computer off and on to fix certain problems?
Like, take an Autistic brain for example. In an autistic brain, things are basically 'wired' differently then the average person. Would it be possible to 'restart' parts of the brain in such a way that they re-wire themselves into a more normal configuration, or am I just interpreting this wrong?
[QUOTE=AkujiTheSniper;50115316]Don't worry I'm only taking LSD to get in touch with my inner child again[/QUOTE]
Perfectly valid reason to take LSD. Terminally ill patients enjoy it a lot too and from what I have heard a transsexual woman sort of got her identity issues resolved through the use of psychs. So it's all good to do LSD as long as you have no disposition to psychotic episodes and you have a real, intimate reason to want to unlock your mind on that level.
[QUOTE=Ryu-Gi;50116821]I'm wondering now if it's possible to use LSD for the medicinal purpose of "re-building" certain parts of the brain by making it "restart" certain parts of it? Kinda like turning a computer off and on to fix certain problems?
Like, take an Autistic brain for example. In an autistic brain, things are basically 'wired' differently then the average person. Would it be possible to 'restart' parts of the brain in such a way that they re-wire themselves into a more normal configuration, or am I just interpreting this wrong?[/QUOTE]
you're kinda wrong, it doesn't 'restart' anything, it just changes the way in which things are experienced for a short while by altering chemical functioning, that in and of itself has no effect on how the brain is 'wired'
so, in a short form answer, no, you wouldn't be able to achieve those kind of ends simply through ingesting acid,
in a longer form answer, it's complex and we can't be certain that psychedelic drugs as a catalyst for therapeutic 'reconfiguration' aren't a viable option, there's a lot of potential, the problem comes in turning that short window of experience, into a longer, more integral part of the subjective experience, i mean arguably every experience you have in and of it self has some impact on your brain's structure, as minute as it may be, but if they didn't we'd have no recollection of new experiences
basically the age old notion of 'psychedelics can be great teachers, but none of that matters if you don't hold onto the lessons and work them into your life' holds true;
Truth be told, most people don't, because it's easy to pass those experiences off as just 'I was on drugs so I was probably delusional' after the experience ends, even in cases where those lessons hold merit,
consider this, does taking anti-anxiety medication cure anxiety disorders?
it takes work, it takes exposure therapy, the medications (valium, xanax, whatever) only really serve as a buffer (or better put, chemical intervention) to help prevent/reduce anxiety, panic attacks, etc etc, hopefully allowing the patient enough freedom to embrace new experiences to work on the underlying issues
[QUOTE=ImimI;50115512]We've known this for a while. Drugs like LSD have been shown to revert the grey matter in the brain (more mature, older tissue that operates like a well traveled highway between commonly used portions of the brain) to white matter (younger tissue that hasn't been set into the "patterns" of grey matter). So when you say that you are "reverting the brain to a childlike state" with drugs like LSD, you literally are. You're removing the grey matter for a time and allowing the brain to make new connections and inferences along paths it doesn't travel down normally.[/QUOTE]
I'd just like to clarify:
Grey matter is generally composed of neuron cell bodies and unmyelinated axons, while white matter mostly consists of myelinated axons (the myelin is what gives it the lighter colour). Action potentials (the signals between all your neurons) can propagate over myelinated axons faster and over longer ranges than unmyelinated ones, so white matter is usually found in structures which transmit long range signals (like the deeper parts of the cerebrum, and in the spine).
The amount of myelinated axons increases between birth and adolescence so grey matter is not "more mature" than white matter.
Also you don't really want to "revert" white matter to grey. That's exactly what happens in diseases like multiple sclerosis - the myelin sheaths on the axons are damaged, and you get all the symptoms that come with MS like loss of motor control.
I love LSD too. It's magical yet logical.
lsd is cool, just don't use it in a dumb "look at me i'm gonna pop 3 of these and get blasted!" - kind of way. irresponsible damage is sometimes irreversible.
Rediscovering how sound and reflections work was probably the most awesome part of my first trip.
I get what people say about rediscovering things and making breakthroughs, but at the same time, it's just your brain thinking that it's doing those things whilst externally you look like a fool waving your hands around.
I'm far from anti LSD, but it does kinda annoy me when people attribute spiritualism and deeper things onto it because that's how the chemical reactions made them feel.
[QUOTE=cyanidem;50117412]I get what people say about rediscovering things and making breakthroughs, but at the same time, it's just your brain thinking that it's doing those things whilst externally you look like a fool waving your hands around.
I'm far from anti LSD, but it does kinda annoy me when people attribute spiritualism and deeper things onto it because that's how the chemical reactions made them feel.[/QUOTE]
Your entire experience of the universe - your entire life - is just 'chemical reactions'. If something makes you experience profound spirituality, it doesn't matter what it is, it's still a valid feeling.
Of course, as long as you're able to recognise that the things you feel are because of the drug then there's no problem. It's when people start to lose grip on reality and claim that the mindset you have while under the influence is the 'correct' or 'natural' one, or that everyone is somehow 'blind' when sober that problems arise.
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Of course, as long as you're able to recognise that the things you feel are because of the drug then there's no problem. It's when people start to lose grip on reality and claim that the mindset you have while under the influence is the 'correct' or 'natural' one, or that everyone is somehow 'blind' when sober that problems arise.[/QUOTE]
Exactly what I'm referring to.
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