Communists pledge to stop ‘dollar-lovers’ experiment on Russia’ - Polidicks

[release] [img]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dcm61Qmqdy8/Tb_XHu-33kI/AAAAAAAAAWU/UppJYBw9n7A/mosxa-kkro.jpg[/img] The Communists have pledged to beat the ruling party at the parliamentary elections, saying United Russia has brought the country to a deadlock. *“It will not be just the elections of State Duma or president, it will be a choice of the course after a 20-year experiment,” the Communist leader Gennady Zyuganov told the delegates and guests of the congress in the town of Moskovsky in the Moscow Region on Saturday. All these years “a gang of folks who cannot do anything in life apart from dollars, profits and mumbling, has humiliated the country,” he said, referring to the current government. The majority of people must win, Zyuganov said, assuming that most voters are going to support the Communist Party (CPRF). The Congress stated that Russia has entered a new phase of development when “patriotic forces start a decisive struggle for power of the people and socialism.” Zyuganov urged his followers to seize the levers of power as [B]the country “is running out of its strength.” Russia only has a maximum of 10 years to lay a foundation of new development,” [/B]he said. The Communists have proposed a new course that includes ensuring Russia’s security, transfer from what they call “economic decline” to accelerated development and overcoming poverty and “social degradation.” If CPRF gains power, people will have a real right for referendum, the parliament’s control functions will be strengthened, Zyuganov said. He promised to create “the real National Security Council and new Supreme intellectual council.” The party’s “3+5+7” formula includes three directions of foreign policy, seven will concern new economic policy and five, social priorities. *‘All power to Communists’ Zyuganov listed several party leaders and professionals in different areas as candidates to “the government of people’s confidence,” which could be formed in case of election victory. This government will work to strengthen Russia’s positions on international arena, the CPRF leader said. The country “will get rid of the dictate of “global rules.” Communists have candidates to replace all the ministers. According to Zyuganov, Admiral Vladimir Komoedov would be a 10-times-better defense minister than the incumbent, Anatoly Serdyukov. [B]The Communists will work to limit the influence of NATO or even dissolve it in the future. Russia needs to increase its number of allies to “counter the aggressive policies of imperialist circles.”[/B] The key to Russia’s security is reviving the brotherhood of peoples, first of all, the Russian, Ukrainian and Belarusian people, Zyuganov said. The Communists promised to support free education, healthcare and cultural revival of peoples of Russia. Zyuganov has called on his supporters to use new methods of electioneering, so that the color red will be in as many places as possible, including social networks on the internet. Other delegates also offered tough statements, with film director Vladimir Bortko saying that [B]Russia now can only “export oil, gas and prostitutes.”[/B] A delegate from Kursk Region said the victory of the parliamentary elections was not enough, and welcomed “President Gennady Andreyevich Zyuganov.” Meanwhile, the party’s leader commented on the news coming from the congress of United Russia, held in Moscow on the same day. The decision of the ruling tandem of the president and the prime minister “will not change the situation in Russia,” he said. “There is nothing new for us,” Zyuganov noted. “The tandem has to maneuver, but at the same time any attempt to destroy it means complete failure of their policies.[B]” Nothing essential has been done in Russia during the last four years, and the government is still “unqualified and unprofessional,”[/B] he stressed. [url=http://rt.com/politics/russia-communists-congress-zyuganov-589-307/]Source[/url][/release] The communist part is the second largest party in Russia (however, it is dwarfed by United Russia, Putin's party). We'll see by election day how much progress they will have made (or lost) from the last elections. Most of Russia, outside the central hubs like Moscow and Petersburg, remains in poverty. And Russia isn't even close to the peak of the Soviet Union during the 70's.

Go get 'em Putin.

Good on em. Hope they win the elections.

Putin should go get em while riding a bear.

"Release the hounds" - Putin

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;32595416]Good on em. Hope they win the elections.[/QUOTE] You want these Communists in charge? They want to start the cold war again for goodness sake!

It's like I'm reading Communist propaganda from 94 years ago.

Too bad human nature doesn´t coincide with what communism tries to do.

Wow, what? What, are they remembering the "glory days" of Soviet Communism? Oh wait, [B]THERE WERE NO GLORY DAYS[/B]. Unless of course you consider mass industrialization at the cost of millions of lives and starvation of the masses glory days.

Given the current state, Putin doesn't deserve another term, and neither does his party. I'd rather the Communists or Fair Russia be in charge.

[QUOTE=ewitwins;32595624]Wow, what? What, are they remembering the "glory days" of Soviet Communism? Oh wait, [B]THERE WERE NO GLORY DAYS[/B]. Unless of course you consider mass industrialization at the cost of millions of lives and starvation of the masses glory days.[/QUOTE] Yeah, yeah you WOULD say that, but LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, PIG. Let me TELL YOU SOMETHING. Under Stalin. NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY suffered from starvati- Oh, they did. Um. Nevermind.

[QUOTE=ewitwins;32595624]Wow, what? What, are they remembering the "glory days" of Soviet Communism? Oh wait, [B]THERE WERE NO GLORY DAYS[/B]. Unless of course you consider mass industrialization at the cost of millions of lives and starvation of the masses glory days.[/QUOTE] Over fantasized by western media. How about the glory days of the united states industrialization when it was propped up by workers with no rights and negro slaves.

Can anyone explain to me (and other non-Russians) what each of the major parties in Russia aim for and are about? (without personal bias, if possible)

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;32595708]Can anyone explain to me (and other non-Russians) what each of the major parties in Russia aim for and are about? (without personal bias, if possible)[/QUOTE] Here you go: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Russia[/url]

[QUOTE=Polyethylene;32595701]Over fantasized by western media. How about the glory days of the united states industrialization when it was propped up by workers with no rights and negro slaves.[/QUOTE] Industrialization of America started in the very last years of slavery which was 99% of the time used in agriculture, not industry.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;32595744]Industrialization of America started in the very last years of slavery which was 99% of the time used in agriculture, not industry.[/QUOTE] Slavery and industrialization, albeit in different time periods, still contributed to the US's upbringing. Now I may be wrong about this, but wasn't slavery a large motif behind the civil war & the confederacy?

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;32595744]Industrialization of America started in the very last years of slavery which was 99% of the time used in agriculture, not industry.[/QUOTE] Yeah, so instead of slaves, there were child workers, relentless hours, and shit pay.

[QUOTE=Polyethylene;32595800]Slavery and industrialization, albeit in different time periods, still contributed to the US's upbringing. Now I may be wrong about this, but wasn't slavery a large motif behind the civil war & the confederacy?[/QUOTE] That is correct, but how I read your first statement made me think you were trying to say slaves were used in industrialization which in the US began around 1870s to its height around 1890s and 1910s.

[QUOTE=Polyethylene;32595701]Over fantasized by western media. How about the glory days of the united states industrialization when it was propped up by workers with no rights and negro slaves.[/QUOTE] I'm confused, when did I say that our industrialization was any better?

Again, a government led by this party: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Just_Russia[/url] with the secondary party being the Communists would be ideal.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32595834]Yeah, so instead of slaves, there were child workers, relentless hours, and shit pay.[/QUOTE] Slightly better working conditions don't make them servants in bondage. Close but not the same.

In the contemporary world, most communist parties have moved from the far right or extreme left to the progressive left and joined in with the social democratic movement of European nations, but Russia's communist party is not one of those parties. Even after Gorbachev, who sparked this global trend towards Social Democracy in communist parties, the CPRF is still clinging to their Stalinistic roots. Get with the times, Russia. You had such great communist and socialist leaders such as Bukharin, Trotsky, Kamenev, Zinoviev, Kerensky (even if he was an asshole), Martov, and Martinov, and yet you cling to Stalin and Marxism-Leninism. I honestly think CP is far better than the CPRF for bringing about social change for the better. Damn shame that they get the lowest election results.

[quote]‘All power to Communists’[/quote] They have no originality either.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;32595865]Slightly better working conditions don't make them servants in bondage. Close but not the same.[/QUOTE] I'm not saying they're "servants", at least not in the traditional sense, but you'd be hard-pressed to look back on the Gilded Age and call it the "glory days".

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];32595909']In the contemporary world, most communist parties have moved from the far right or extreme left to the progressive left and joined in with the social democratic movement of European nations, but Russia's communist party is not one of those parties. Even after Gorbachev, who sparked this global trend towards Social Democracy in communist parties, the CPRF is still clinging to their Stalinistic roots. Get with the times, Russia. You had such great communist and socialist leaders such as Bukharin, Trotsky, Kamenev, Zinoviev, Kerensky (even if he was an asshole), Martov, and Martinov, and yet you cling to Stalin and Marxism-Leninism.[/QUOTE] I do still agree with you on that. Most of the people in the party lived better off in the USSR and would like to return to that memory even if it has no relevance today. Russia would be better off adopting Socialism 2.0

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];32595909']In the contemporary world, most communist parties have moved from the far right or extreme left to the progressive left and joined in with the social democratic movement of European nations, but Russia's communist party is not one of those parties. Even after Gorbachev, who sparked this global trend towards Social Democracy in communist parties, the CPRF is still clinging to their Stalinistic roots. Get with the times, Russia. You had such great communist and socialist leaders such as Bukharin, Trotsky, Kamenev, Zinoviev, Kerensky (even if he was an asshole), Martov, and Martinov, and yet you cling to Stalin and Marxism-Leninism.[/QUOTE] I'm fine with the CPRF being who they want to be, but they shouldn't except total rule over government, that's just unrealistic. They should work with the Social Democrats to get United Russia out of power and put Fair Russia into power, so that they can have at least some sway as opposed to being completely opposed to every parliamentary decision.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32595914]I'm not saying they're "servants", at least not in the traditional sense, but you'd be hard-pressed to look back on the Gilded Age and call it the "glory days".[/QUOTE] I never once said it was the "glory days"

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;32595989]I never once said it was the "glory days"[/QUOTE] You're a liar and a capitalist!

[QUOTE=Medevilae;32595926]The Civil War was fought over State's rights. Slavery was just bundled with that due to Southern plantation owners.[/QUOTE] And a large part of the states rights was to do with the abolition and such of Slavery. There was a big issue involving new states being free or not which massively contributed to the war. Plus as time went on the south came to depend on the cotton industry to the point that any attempt to get rid of slavery would mean ruin for it.

Strange I thought Sobotnik was a fascist