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Nationalist party VMRO is to table a bill banning the use of burqas in public, the party's leader Krasimir Karakachanov has said.
VMRO is part of the Patriotic Front coalition that backs the minority government of Prime Minister Boyko Borisov.
The move, which is expected later on Tuesday, follows a suggestion by Chief Prosecutor Sotir Tsatsarov who opined it should be forbidden to wear burqas in public spaces, shortly after a trial on spreading radical Islamist propaganda began in the southern town of Pazardzhik.
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[URL="http://www.novinite.com/articles/174097/Nationalist+MPs+to+Submit+Burqa+Ban+to+Bulgaria's+Parliament"]http://www.novinite.com/articles/174097/Nationalist+MPs+to+Submit+Burqa+Ban+to+Bulgaria's+Parliament[/URL]
Should be interesting to see what happens.
While I think that burqas are stupid since they just make human interaction more irritating, I don't see a point in banning them unless they are a significant problem.
Oh yes, the nice country of Burqabangaria.
[QUOTE=uber.;50166938]While I think that burqas are stupid since they just make human interaction more irritating, I don't see a point in banning them unless they are a significant problem.[/QUOTE]
Here it comes under the domestic violence act because your making your partner wear something they don't want to.
Secondly, They block your line of sight while driving.
Third, There was a case recently with a women who abused a police officer and submitted a falsified claim in the form of a stat deck that the police officer assaulted her. She got off on the charges of submitting a false claim because they couldn't identify her.
[QUOTE=Axsisel;50166940]Oh yes, the nice country of Burqabangaria.[/QUOTE]
That's funny considering I've never seen a burqa in my life here. I do live in the capital, though - as far as im aware this ban is more aimed at the countryside and smaller towns. IIRC recently there was some radical islam shenanigans where some people were paid to wear burqas in front of media and pretend they're muslim.
In the bulgarian version of the article they write more about how proposal is simply taken from what France currently has - it's aimed at public places like hospitals, schools, etc.
[QUOTE=Passing;50166947]Here it comes under the domestic violence act because your making your partner wear something they don't want to.
Secondly, They block your line of sight while driving.
Third, There was a case recently with a women who abused a police officer and submitted a falsified claim in the form of a stat deck that the police officer assaulted her. She got off on the charges of submitting a false claim because they couldn't identify her.[/QUOTE]
The second point and third point I do get, but your first argument could also be used for head scarves. Some muslim women tend to run around with them here in Germany and I heard the argument that you never know if they really want wear them or are just forced to. The thing is that you'll never know and it's a free country, so why bother? Religion is always a bit weird.
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The first one? I saw that in a domestic violence video they have playing at centerlink about a year ago.
When I read the thread title I was thinking "Either ATAKA or VMRO." I doupt this will pass.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50166944]This is not a religion question, since Turkey, a muslim country, had Burqa banned for 20 years in 20th century, and I know many muslims personally in favor of it.
This is a liberties question. Do we allow a person to wear anything they want? Do we allow face coverings? Do we allow face-open burqas?
Just wanted to disclaim this to prevent a dumb argument on Islam, even though it %99 is gonna happen anyway[/QUOTE]
Turkey had burqa banned? I only found that hijab (headscarf) was banned from public sector workers
VMRO are right wing nationalists, so no surprise there.
I feel like burqas should be treated like any other face coverings such as helmets or masks: okay to wear, but if you're asked to by a business owner, landowner, etc, you should have to take it off.
Burqas are more of a cultural/traditional thing rather than a religious thing anyways. They're better off without burqas. I mean, I just saw this graduation photo of a suma-cumlaude person recently and she was wearing a burqa and I was like wtf is even the point of taking a graduation photo if you're gonna cover your entire head?
Face covering burqa's should not be allowed in some scenarios just like bike helmets or masks while going into shops. Other than that they should wear whatever the hell they want I don't personally care.
From a security standpoint you must be able to see someone's face.
Yeah, the government saying "You can't wear this thing in any situation" is really skeevy to me. I know there are reasons for it, but ehhhhh.
[QUOTE=BelatedGamer;50179907]Yeah, the government saying "You can't wear this thing in any situation" is really skeevy to me. I know there are reasons for it, but ehhhhh.[/QUOTE]
Exept the chances of this passing are rather slim.
[QUOTE=kilerabv;50180056]Exept the chances of this passing are rather slim.[/QUOTE]
You'll notice after a short investigation that I didn't claim it would.
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Also I'm grouchy tonight, sorry if I came off as a little rude.
[QUOTE=BelatedGamer;50180081]You'll notice after a short investigation that I didn't claim it would.
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Also I'm grouchy tonight, sorry if I came off as a little rude.[/QUOTE]
Ahh, apologies. I read your post wrong.
[QUOTE=uber.;50166975]The second point and third point I do get, but your first argument could also be used for head scarves. Some muslim women tend to run around with them here in Germany and I heard the argument that you never know if they really want wear them or are just forced to. The thing is that you'll never know and it's a free country, so why bother? Religion is always a bit weird.[/QUOTE]
The one thing I always had against them is that there doesn't seem to be any immediate standard for men, like I live by Amish, both the women and the men cover their heads and dress modestly, but it's really a double standard for Muslim women, cover up then cover up some more while your brother wears shorts, reaks of smoke and has an unkept beard
Also the women that are covered up a lot don't tend to drive either, a couple live in my complex and they get picked up every day by someone just to take them down the road to the campus
Just my anicdotal evidence
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