Man attempting to steal electrical wire is becomes Doc Brown from back to the future; is zapped by 1 - Polidicks

[img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QPZqrQrnQLs/TZpA833bG2I/AAAAAAAAAGI/24pSYOLblsE/s1600/Back_to_the_future_Christopher+Lloyd-thumb-400x337-33441.jpg[/img] [I]Dr. Emmett Brown: Oh, my God. They found me. I don't know how, but they found me. Run for it, Marty! Marty McFly: Who? Who? Dr. Emmett Brown: Who do you think? THE LIBYANS![/I] [quote=heraldscotland] [B]A SCRAP metal thief who sawed through a cable and was zapped by a 11,000-volt blast, has been ordered to carry out 140 hours of unpaid work in the community after a Sheriff heard how he had experienced a life-changing "thunderbolt" from the episode.[/B] [B]William Durnan, of Kirkland Crescent, Dalry, North Ayrshire, survived the huge electrical surge but ended up "looking like the professor from the Back to the Future movie with his clothing and hair burned to a cinder", Paisley Sheriff Court had previously been told.[/B] The explosion at 6.50am on August 19 last year, was so severe that it blacked out half of Johnstone town centre. The 44-year-old admitted he had been stealing electric cable from a junction box. As Durnan, shaking uncontrollably after the huge charge of power surged through his body and left him heavily charred, went to a nearby house for help, he was unable to talk but had clearly been subjected to the kind of blast that few survive. When he last appeared sheepishly in the dock, the 44-year-old admitted that he had been stealing electric cable from a junction box that was situated beside a disused farmhouse in the town's Barochan Road. [B]The court put disposal on hold to see how he recovered from the severe burns he sustained to determine whether or not he ould be able to repay society by carrying out unpaid work in the community.[/B] Thye court was told that the whole experience has [B]"been something of a thunderbolt which has brought about a complete change in his attitude to life."[/B] "This is a form of behaviour he will never repeat again," said defence agent David Nicholson. [B]"The episode has had a significant and profound effect on him. He knows that his life could very well have ended."[/B] Previously it had been explained that Durnan had seen the property was unoccupied and looking derelict and wrongly assumed the power supply would have been cut off. Depute fiscal Hazel Emmerson said the accused had set out with a hacksaw to gain some scrap copper wiring.[/quote] Glad the guy is seeing the light; and that he survived. Sucks that his arm fucking melted [url="http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/crime-courts/thunderbolt-moment-for-metal-thief-avoids-jail.24083986"]more in Source[/url] [img]https://static.squarespace.com/static/51b3dc8ee4b051b96ceb10de/51ce6099e4b0d911b4489b79/51ce619ce4b0d911b449a175/1332865354733/1000w/tumblr_lyzqaxC2P31qeve6qo1_1280.jpg[/img] [I]Dr. Emmett Brown: Please Marty. No one should know too much about their destiny. [/I] [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] Fuck; I fucked up my title again; can a mod take out the annoying "is" I left before becomes?

His arm melted? So he also turned into Hanson from Scary Movie 2? "Take my strong hand, Marty!"

He should be dead, that is a [i]lot[/i] of current.

[QUOTE=Asmaedus;44685408]He should be dead, that is a [i]lot[/i] of current.[/QUOTE] It's voltage though.

[QUOTE=Asmaedus;44685408]He should be dead, that is a [i]lot[/i] of current.[/QUOTE] Yes, but as mentioned in every one of these threads, you need both voltage and current to make it dangerous.

[QUOTE=Asmaedus;44685408]He should be dead, that is a [i]lot[/i] of current.[/QUOTE] I can generate 11,000 Volts with a AA battery and a huge set of resistors... It's the current that kills you

Here we go... swear this happens on facepunch at least once a week

[QUOTE=Sableye;44685669]I can generate 11,000 Volts with a AA battery and a huge set of resistors... It's the current that kills you[/QUOTE] It's both that kills you.

[QUOTE=jamzzster;44685745]Here we go... swear this happens on facepunch at least once a week[/QUOTE] Honestly I expect these comment about it happening more than it happening :v:

[QUOTE=SataniX;44685643]Yes, but as mentioned in every one of these threads, you need both voltage and current to make it dangerous.[/QUOTE] Well, clearly there was a lot of both, considering he almost died and his arm melted.

Let's get one thing straight: 0.4 amperes of current is enough to disrupt the signals needed for the brain and heart to work and consequently kill you. Anything greater than that just results in a messier sight, like how this fellow had his arm melted and most of the rest of him burnt to a crisp.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xONZcBJh5A[/media] Can we leave it now?

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;44685913]Let's get one thing straight: 0.4 amperes of current is enough to disrupt the signals needed for the brain and heart to work and consequently kill you. Anything greater than that just results in a messier sight, like how this fellow had his arm melted and most of the rest of him burnt to a crisp.[/QUOTE] I thought it was something like 7 mA if it's directly through the heart. Somewhat more if it's just a general shock though. Also you need to reach the breakdown voltage of human flesh before it becomes conductive. A car battery outputs enough amperage to weld with, but only 12 volts, yet you can touch the contacts with dry hands and nothing happens. Touching a mains outlet reaches 110v(220-240 in europe) at several amps and can kill you easily.

[QUOTE='[EG] Pepper;44685811']It's both that kills you.[/QUOTE] It's really current that kills you, but with skin healthy, dry, and unbroken, you need certain level of voltage to [I]achieve[/I] the necessary current, although the Voltage itself again doesn't warrant the current will actually go through. High enough voltage is a necessary, however not sufficient, condition.

[QUOTE=zombini;44685966]I thought it was something like 7 mA if it's directly through the heart. Somewhat more if it's just a general shock though. Also you need to reach the breakdown voltage of human flesh before it becomes conductive. A car battery outputs enough amperage to weld with, but only 12 volts, yet you can touch the contacts with dry hands and nothing happens. Touching a mains outlet reaches 110v(220-240 in europe) at several amps and can kill you easily.[/QUOTE] 7 mA only if it passes directly through the conducting system, specifically the SA or AV nodes. That produces much the same effect as commotio cordis.

There is a direct relation between voltage and current. More voltage = more current. At 11,000 volts, I can guarantee there would be a shitload of amps running through him. Resistance plays a factor, but with a few exceptions like tasers, high voltage is almost always going to come with high Amperage.

I = V / R Enough said.

Voltage or current don't mean shit. It's the voltage [i]times[/i] current that you need. :eng101: [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] V * I = P by the way. P stands for POWER. Power is how much energy per [timespan] is moving through you while you're getting shocked. Resistance is a side factor, but the power does depend on it. [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] Also, science shit aside, I feel bad for this guy... his arm melted :(

resistance wot kills u

Actually yeah, I forgot that the heat comes from resistance. It's not a side factor derp...

[QUOTE=Chryseus;44686041]I = V / R Enough said.[/QUOTE] Goes to show you how much you know about electrical engineering. Hint, that only applies to linear devices ie resistors.

Great Scott!

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDf2nhfxVzg[/media]

[QUOTE=Sableye;44685669]I can generate [b]11,000 Volts[/b] with a [b]AA battery[/b] and a huge set of [b]resistors[/b]... It's the current that kills you[/QUOTE] Please show me this schematic. lmao.

v=ir... so mathematically you can have a small current with huge resistance to get that also tasers only have battery packs slightly larger than some AA batteries and they generate tons of voltage

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44687916]Goes to show you how much you know about electrical engineering. Hint, that only applies to linear devices ie resistors.[/QUOTE] I'm fully aware of the fact that human body resistance is highly variable and non-linear, Ohm's Law still applies for a given voltage and resistance, as far as I know there is no equation which accurately models human body resistance. My point being that the current is determined by both by the applied voltage and the body resistance, I make no assumptions as to the value of the resistance. As to the heating effect that is often less of an immediate concern, disruption of the cardiac cycle on the other hand will always result in death without rapid resuscitation, the actual threshold current depends on many factors such as shock path, AC or DC, frequency and duration of shock, generally ranges from 5mA to 25mA from an external shock. [QUOTE=Sableye;44690015]v=ir... so mathematically you can have a small current with huge resistance to get that also tasers only have battery packs slightly larger than some AA batteries and they generate tons of voltage[/QUOTE] Voltage isn't magically generated. Tasers use a transformer to produce high voltage pulses at moderate current levels, the pulse duration is however short enough to avoid effecting the heart to any significant degree.

good god this thread is supposed to be about a guy who got shocked bad, not a debate about what part of electricity kills you

Danger! Danger! High Voltage!

[QUOTE=Hugg;44685610]It's voltage though.[/QUOTE] Right right right we can't make any claims about the safety of 11,000 volts on your body unless we know the current!

[QUOTE=Hadok;44690268]Danger! Danger! High Voltage![/QUOTE] fire in the disco