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Hamid Karzai said the US-led military coalition was working with the Taliban to create instability in Afghanistan and convince Afghani citizens that violence will increase once foreign troops leave the country.
KABUL, Afghanistan — Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Sunday accused the Taliban and the U.S. of working in concert to convince Afghans that violence will worsen if most foreign troops leave as planned by the end of next year.
Karzai said two suicide bombings that killed 19 people on Saturday — one outside the Afghan Defense Ministry and the other near a police checkpoint in eastern Khost province — show the insurgent group is conducting attacks to help show that international forces will still be needed to keep the peace after their current combat mission ends in 2014.
"The explosions in Kabul and Khost yesterday showed that they are at the service of America and at the service of this phrase: 2014. They are trying to frighten us into thinking that if the foreigners are not in Afghanistan, we would be facing these sorts of incidents," he said during a nationally televised speech about the state of Afghan women.
There was no immediate response from the U.S.-led military coalition, which is gradually handing over responsibility for securing the country to Afghan forces.
Karzai is known for making incendiary comments in his public speeches, a move that is often attributed to him trying to appeal to those who sympathize with the Taliban or as a way to gain leverage when he feels his international allies are ignoring his country's sovereignty. In previous speeches he has threatened to join the Taliban and called his NATO allies occupiers who want to plunder Afghanistan's resources.
His latest remarks come as his government is negotiating a pact with the U.S. for the long-term presence of American forces in Afghanistan and just days after an agreement to transfer the U.S. prison outside of Kabul to Afghan authority fell through. His comments also came while U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel is making his first visit to Afghanistan since becoming the Pentagon chief.
Karzai said in his speech that any foreign powers that want to keep troops in Afghanistan need to do so under conditions set forward by Afghanistan.[/quote]
Source: [url]http://news.msn.com/world/afghan-leader-alleges-us-taliban-are-colluding[/url]
Other Source[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21732383[/url]
Yea right. More like the Taliban are just wanting to kill people like they have since the war began
[QUOTE=download;39864842]Yea right. More like the Taliban are just wanting to kill people like they have since the war began[/QUOTE]
It's a little bit more than that, but.. yeah that's about all they do.
Yea, all those murders of American troops and ambushes on our outposts, and IEDs laid along the roads are US work to convince everyone that we need to be there to stop all of the murders of American troops and ambushes on our outposts and IEDs laid along the roads.
We are at war with the Afghan government. We've always been at war with the Afghan government!
[QUOTE=redhaven;39865323]We are at war with the Afghan government. We've always been at war with the Afghan government![/QUOTE]
No, actually we're at war the Taliban
[QUOTE=KingdomBanned;39865548]No, actually we're at war the Taliban[/QUOTE]
Well, they [i]were[/i] the Afghan government at one point, but yeah we're at war with them.
Oh look, no one read the article (the BBC one) and simply are replying to the thread title.
No surprise here facepunch.
[QUOTE=redhaven;39865323]We are at war with the Afghan government. We've always been at war with the Afghan government![/QUOTE]
For those of you rating him dumb, this is a 1984 joke.
[QUOTE=Mr._N;39866502]For those of you rating him dumb, this is a 1984 joke.[/QUOTE]
Hm, so it is, I don't think anyone expected to see that.
Also, what Karzai is saying makes no sense, the Taliban want NATO forces out just as much as he does because they're more of an obstacle to their rise to power than he could ever be.
Karzai is the worst puppet [I]ever.[/I]
Oh good they are going to side with the women killers and basically fundamentalist Christians but believe in Islam. I thought we went over there to over throw them? Because im definitively positive that they were harboring terrorists that were supposedly responsible for 9/11.
[img]http://www.movieposterdb.com/posters/06_07/1988/0095956/l_121361_0095956_df2087ae.jpg[/img]
The war's over Johnny.
Reptilians.
Wouldn't put it beyond US to be honest.
It isn't like they haven't done similiar things in the past.
[QUOTE=smeismastger;39867952]Wouldn't put it beyond US to be honest.
It isn't like they haven't done similiar things in the past.[/QUOTE]
Someone remind me why the "bad reading" rating isn't available here?
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;39867969]Someone remind me why the "bad reading" rating isn't available here?[/QUOTE]
same reason the smartness system isnt here
(why do people care about ratings anyway)
[QUOTE=ZCaliber;39867783][img]http://www.movieposterdb.com/posters/06_07/1988/0095956/l_121361_0095956_df2087ae.jpg[/img]
The war's over Johnny.[/QUOTE]
No hotlinking please.
[QUOTE=smeismastger;39867952]Wouldn't put it beyond US to be honest.
It isn't like they haven't done similiar things in the past.[/QUOTE]
Are you stupid? The logistics- fuck it.
[QUOTE=Mr._N;39866502]For those of you rating him dumb, this is a 1984 joke.[/QUOTE]
I think a large majority of FP hasn't existed for long enough to remember 1984
like, probably 90%+
[QUOTE=Sir M;39869774]I think a large majority of FP hasn't existed for long enough to remember 1984
like, probably 90%+[/QUOTE]
I don't think anybody on the forum was around when it was published.
[QUOTE=Sir M;39869774]I think a large majority of FP hasn't existed for long enough to remember 1984
like, probably 90%+[/QUOTE]
I'm shocked people wouldn't have read that in school, either in Language or in a Political Studies course. 1984 is an extremely well known book, and we have a lot of angsty teenagers that don't trust the government.
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;39870287]I'm shocked people wouldn't have read that in school, either in Language or in a Political Studies course. 1984 is an extremely well known book, and we have a lot of angsty teenagers that don't trust the government.[/QUOTE]
everyone i know who reads recreationally has read it.
the tragedy is that that's three people.
[QUOTE=Hellduck;39870326]everyone i know who reads recreationally has read it.
the tragedy is that that's three people.[/QUOTE]
I would say it's one of the more important books to hand out when educating kids on governments, their formation and their evolution, along with political realities versus false information. (Not that we're actually in an Orwellian world, just to get the point across)
So yeah, it's disappointing that so few have read it, even if I don't entirely agree with the premise.
[QUOTE=Sir M;39869774]I think a large majority of FP hasn't existed for long enough to remember 1984
like, probably 90%+[/QUOTE]
1984 is a book. Not talking about the year.
And then there is this:
[url]http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Afghanistan/united-states-military-funding-taliban-afghanistan/story?id=10980527&page=3[/url]
[QUOTE=Hellduck;39870326]everyone i know who reads recreationally has read it.
the tragedy is that that's three people.[/QUOTE]
I don't know about other places, but it was required reading here.
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