China on course to have the world's largest Christian congregation in 15 years - Polidicks

[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10776023/China-on-course-to-become-worlds-most-Christian-nation-within-15-years.html[/url] [IMG]http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02887/china_2887244b.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]It is said to be China's biggest church and on Easter Sunday thousands of worshippers will flock to this Asian mega-temple to pledge their allegiance – not to the Communist Party, but to the Cross.The 5,000-capacity Liushi church, which boasts more than twice as many seats as Westminster Abbey and a 206ft crucifix that can be seen for miles around, opened last year with one theologian declaring it a "miracle that such a small town was able to build such a grand church". The £8 million building is also one of the most visible symbols of Communist China's breakneck conversion as it evolves into one of the largest Christian congregations on earth. "It is a wonderful thing to be a follower of Jesus Christ. It gives us great confidence," beamed Jin Hongxin, a 40-year-old visitor who was admiring the golden cross above Liushi's altar in the lead up to Holy Week. "If everyone in China believed in Jesus then we would have no more need for police stations. There would be no more bad people and therefore no more crime," she added.[/QUOTE]

RIP america

I would have never guessed.

[quote]"If everyone in China believed in Jesus then we would have no more need for police stations. There would be no more bad people and therefore no more crime," she added.[/quote] RIP China.

It'd be interesting to see how religious conservatives react to that. Especially since their rhetoric is usually anti-Chinese. [editline]19th April 2014[/editline] Seriously though, if it makes them happy, then why not?

[QUOTE=deltasquid;44587908][quote]"If everyone in China believed in Jesus then we would have no more need for police stations. There would be no more bad people and therefore no more crime," she added.[/quote]RIP China.[/QUOTE]which Great Old One do i have to appease to enter this pink-clouded happy dreamworld of rainbows

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;44587914]It'd be interesting to see how religious conservatives react to that. Especially since their rhetoric is usually anti-Chinese. [editline]19th April 2014[/editline] [B]Seriously though, if it makes them happy, then why not?[/B][/QUOTE] Because of the potential for the misapplication of religion. Religion is good when it: Makes your happy, feel safe, and gives you some sense that you're not a statistical accident in the breakwind of a galactic fart that's being played out over millions of years. Religion is bad when: Russia, Iran, UAE, Westboro Baptist Church, et. al. It's cool if this ends up producing lots of positivity, like charity work and warm smiles. It's bad if this produces a lot of negativity, like lynching gays or inter-religious violence.

[QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;44588011]Because of the potential for the misapplication of religion. Religion is good when it: Makes your happy, feel safe, and gives you some sense that you're not a statistical accident in the breakwind of a galactic fart that's being played out over millions of years. Religion is bad when: Russia, Iran, UAE, Westboro Baptist Church, et. al. It's cool if this ends up producing lots of positivity, like charity work and warm smiles. It's bad if this produces a lot of negativity, like lynching gays or inter-religious violence.[/QUOTE] Nazi Germany, Soviet Union, North Korea. Religion is often just a scape-goat for ignorance.

[QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;44588011] Religion is bad when: [B]Russia[/B], Iran, UAE, Westboro Baptist Church, et. al.[/QUOTE] Considering Russia has a massive irreligious population, that's not a good example. Besides, for 70 years, Russia was officially atheist and violently persecuted religious people. So I could make the argument that "Atheism is bad when: Russia, etc." and it would be somewhat more accurate. Really, China's pretty shitty in terms of human rights, so more social justice-type religion can only make things better.

[quote] "If everyone in China believed in Jesus then we would have no more need for police stations. There would be no more bad people and therefore no more crime," she added.[/quote] Oh hoho. Funny joke. People who are religious can still be bad people. A lot of people like to forget greed and stealing.

[QUOTE=slayer64;44588088]Considering Russia has a massive irreligious population, that's not a good example. Besides, for 70 years, Russia was officially atheist and violently persecuted religious people. So I could make the argument that "Atheism is bad when: Russia, etc." and it would be somewhat more accurate. Really, China's pretty shitty in terms of human rights, so more social justice-type religion can only make things better.[/QUOTE] They weren't really atheist, they were forced to do it. Many of them still practiced at home. The high priest of Russia actually has a plan that will dedicate half of the school hours to Christianity and Culture.

[QUOTE=slayer64;44588088]Considering Russia has a massive irreligious population, that's not a good example. Besides, for 70 years, Russia was officially atheist and violently persecuted religious people. So I could make the argument that "Atheism is bad when: Russia, etc." and it would be somewhat more accurate. Really, China's pretty shitty in terms of human rights, so more social justice-type religion can only make things better.[/QUOTE]The majority of Russia's population is religious. Only 15% are atheists as of 2012. The USSR as far as I know was atheistic, but since the 90's they haven't been enforcing anti-religion and the Russian Orthodox are currently making up 41%. [QUOTE=Paul McCartney;44588106]Oh hoho. Funny joke. People who are religious can still be bad people. A lot of people like to forget greed and stealing.[/QUOTE]It's fairly obvious that religion is the only thing preventing people from being suicidal, murderous maniacs...

[QUOTE=slayer64;44588088]Considering Russia has a massive irreligious population, that's not a good example. Besides, for 70 years, Russia was officially atheist and violently persecuted religious people. So I could make the argument that "Atheism is bad when: Russia, etc." and it would be somewhat more accurate. Really, China's pretty shitty in terms of human rights, so more social justice-type religion can only make things better.[/QUOTE] The Soviet Union didn't necessarily kill people out of atheism alone, they killed the religious to consolidate their power; remember, nobody could be held in higher regard than the State and Stalin [QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;44588011]Because of the potential for the misapplication of religion. Religion is good when it: Makes your happy, feel safe, and gives you some sense that you're not a statistical accident in the breakwind of a galactic fart that's being played out over millions of years.[/quote] There are other ways of giving meaning to your life without religion, especially christianity, and especially when you learn how much of an evil maniacal control freak the christian god is

It's a significant change from what it used to be in China. Christians routinely got murdered and chased out of the country until only relatively recently.

[QUOTE=slayer64;44588088]Considering Russia has a massive irreligious population, that's not a good example. Besides, for 70 years, Russia was officially atheist and violently persecuted religious people. So I could make the argument that "Atheism is bad when: Russia, etc." and it would be somewhat more accurate. Really, China's pretty shitty in terms of human rights, so more social justice-type religion can only make things better.[/QUOTE] The only people I could think of who violently persecuted religious people are Stalin and Brezhnev neither of them actual atheists or communists.

god bless the People's Republic of China

Okay I honestly didn't expect this

[QUOTE=toaster468;44588176]The only people I could think of who violently persecuted religious people are Stalin and Brezhnev neither of them actual atheists or communists.[/QUOTE] Don't know about Brezhnev, but Stalin was absolutely an atheist. A militant anti-theist, actually, considering the worst persecution of religion happened under him.

[QUOTE=slayer64;44588216]Don't know about Brezhnev, but Stalin was absolutely an atheist. A militant anti-theist, actually, considering the worst persecution of religion happened under him.[/QUOTE] No he actually wasn't. He was just doing it for the power. Given the opportunity he would have pretended to be any ideology to become a leader.

[QUOTE=slayer64;44588216]Don't know about Brezhnev, but Stalin was absolutely an atheist. A militant anti-theist, actually, considering the worst persecution of religion happened under him.[/QUOTE] He originally studied to be a priest

[QUOTE=Joazzz;44587977]which Great Old One do i have to appease to enter this pink-clouded happy dreamworld of rainbows[/QUOTE] I vaguely recall one that caused its victims to die in ecstasy, but I forget the name, so you'd be better off working with Slaanesh.

Mankind: 1 Step forward, 2 steps back.

[QUOTE=cyanidem;44588318]Mankind: 1 Step forward, 2 steps back.[/QUOTE] Not really? Them becoming more western aligned in faith could be good as it creates mutual understanding. The only bad parts come if they start to alienate others who aren't the same faith as them, rather than a live a let live attitude.

and than a rogue Chinese official declares himself the younger brother of Jesus causing a massive civil war to overthrow the communist regime. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion[/url]

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;44588357]Not really? Them becoming more western aligned in faith could be good as it creates mutual understanding. The only bad parts come if they start to alienate others who aren't the same faith as them, rather than a live a let live attitude.[/QUOTE] Soon enough it won't be western aligned considering Christianity is starting fall out of favour in the west, especially Europe, thankfully

[QUOTE=toaster468;44588234]No he actually wasn't. He was just doing it for the power. Given the opportunity he would have pretended to be any ideology to become a leader.[/QUOTE] Since when? He was pretty vocal about his atheism. [quote]God's not unjust, he doesn't actually exist. We've been deceived. If God existed, he'd have made the world more just... I'll lend you a book and you'll see.[/quote] [quote]You know, they are fooling us, there is no God.[/quote] [url]http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Contemporary_witnesses[/url] It wasn't like it was an uncommon view to hold at the time either. A lot of atheists started popping up in late 19th and early 20th century Russia.

At least they will get some morals.

[QUOTE=deltasquid;44587908]RIP China.[/QUOTE] This is like, shit something a brainwashed naive idiot child would say literally, stated exactly like one, too dumb douche thinks the world can just be sunshine an rainbows and that Christians can't do bad either, but, they can, and have.

He was an Atheist but he wasn't acting on behalf of his atheism, since Atheism is not an ideology. He was an Anti-theist Atheist. To be fair, he was studying to be a priest (Seminary) not sure if he finished it. He changed when he rose to power, when Lenin died. Everyone at that time would call each-other товарищ, but when he was in power and there was a battle over Moscow he would refer to people as Bothers and Sisters Like a priest would.

[QUOTE=deltasquid;44587908]RIP China.[/QUOTE] My god, the ignorance, how can she seriously believe that?