Indonesia halts military coopertion with Australia over West Papua training material - Polidicks

[quote]"Offensive" material about West Papua displayed at an Australian Special Forces base has prompted Indonesia's defence chief to cut military cooperation, throwing future joint exercises into doubt. The ABC has confirmed an Indonesian officer complained about the "insulting" training posters at the SAS headquarters in Perth in November last year, prompting Australian Defence leaders to launch furious efforts to try to smooth relations with their counterparts in Jakarta. An Indonesian military spokesman told the ABC cooperation between Indonesia and the Australian Defence Force (ADF) had been suspended effective immediately. Indonesian Special Forces group Kopassus trains with the Special Air Service at the unit's Campbell Barracks. Major General Wuryanto would not confirm the reason for the suspension, saying it was for technical matters, and that there were "ups and downs in every cooperation between two national forces". Sources familiar with the incident have confirmed the "laminated material" concerned West Papua, which is an Indonesian province that has tried to seek independence from Jakarta. Defence Minister Marise Payne confirmed the complaints concerned "some teaching materials and remarks" at an Army language training facility in Australia, and that some military cooperation with Indonesia was now on hold. "Indonesia has informed Australia that defence cooperation would be suspended," Senator Payne said in a statement. "As a result, some interaction between the two Defence organisations has been postponed until the matter is resolved. Cooperation in other areas is continuing." The Defence Minister said Australia was committed "to building a strong Defence relationship with Indonesia" and would "work with Indonesia to restore full cooperation as soon as possible".[/quote] [url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-04/insulting-training-material-was-in-relation-to-west-papua/8162284[/url]

I am now legitimately interested in seeing the offensive material.

[quote]Indonesia halts military cooperation with Australia over 'insulting' West Papua posters at training base Sources familiar with the incident have confirmed the "laminated material" concerned West Papua, which is an Indonesian province that has tried to seek independence from Jakarta. Defence Minister Marise Payne confirmed the complaints concerned "some teaching materials and remarks" at an Army language training facility in Australia, and that some military cooperation with Indonesia was now on hold.[/quote] from what i can gather it seems like they were posters sympathetic/supporting west papua independence how dumb do you have to be to have that happen? way to commit career suicide

The bond between us and Indonesia has been decaying over the last decade, at this stage I think anything that crops up is being used to leverage support for those in power in Indonesia to cut ties. This is bad though, as Indonesia has a larger militaristic force than us. If there were to be a huge red flag in parity degradation it would be Indonesia pushing back in to East Timor.

[QUOTE=Bradyns;51622437]The bond between us and Indonesia has been decaying over the last decade, at this stage I think anything that crops up is being used to leverage support for those in power in Indonesia to cut ties. This is bad though, as Indonesia has a larger militaristic force than us. If there were to be a huge red flag in parity degradation it would be Indonesia pushing back in to East Timor.[/QUOTE] But you've got the US :D

fuck Indonesia, biggest bunch of cunts anyway. They kill two of our reformed men, treat Aussies like shit in Bali and never listen to us when we need some help yet we chuck plenty of money over there to fix their shit since politicians are too corrupted anyway but doesnt matter since our money lands back in the fat cats pocket

Could this article convey any less information per word? The snippet alone could be cut down 80% and we'd learn just as much.

[QUOTE=ZakkShock;51622481]But you've got the US :D[/QUOTE] And the U.K

[QUOTE=MissZoey;51622504]And the U.K[/QUOTE] Sidekick to the superhero :v: [editline]4th January 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Bradyns;51622437]The bond between us and Indonesia has been decaying over the last decade, at this stage I think anything that crops up is being used to leverage support for those in power in Indonesia to cut ties.[/QUOTE] For what purpose? Are they aligning more with China, or moving on to their own agenda?

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51622550]For what purpose? Are they aligning more with China, or moving on to their own agenda?[/QUOTE] China is our biggest trade partner and soon to be because of that, probably one of our biggest allies as China shapes into a superpower. Mandarin is in the national curriculum when it comes to alternative languages because the government expects future graduates to be doing their primary business with Chinese companies/people. That's why whenever someone asks us the question, do we side with the U.S or China in a time of war, it gets really complicated and tricky. I personally would say neither and we turn neutral unless a direct attack happened on our borders. But we can no longer side with one or the other, esp. China

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;51622501]fuck Indonesia, biggest bunch of cunts anyway. They kill two of our reformed men, treat Aussies like shit in Bali and never listen to us when we need some help yet we chuck plenty of money over there to fix their shit since politicians are too corrupted anyway but doesnt matter since our money lands back in the fat cats pocket[/QUOTE] pls liberate us

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51622550]For what purpose? Are they aligning more with China, or moving on to their own agenda?[/QUOTE] Mostly petty politics, and some minor international incidents. Beyond that, we really did put them on the back foot at the end of last century.