Germany to tell people to stockpile food and water in case of attacks: FAS - Polidicks

[quote]For the first time since the end of the Cold War, the German government plans to tell citizens to stockpile food and water in case of an attack or catastrophe, the Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung newspaper reported on Sunday. Germany is currently on high alert after two Islamist attacks and a shooting rampage by a mentally unstable teenager last month. Berlin announced measures earlier this month to spend considerably more on its police and security forces and to create a special unit to counter cyber crime and terrorism. "The population will be obliged to hold an individual supply of food for ten days," the newspaper quoted the government's "Concept for Civil Defence" - which has been prepared by the Interior Ministry - as saying. The paper said a parliamentary committee had originally commissioned the civil defense strategy in 2012. A spokesman for the Interior Ministry said the plan would be discussed by the cabinet on Wednesday and presented by the minister that afternoon. He declined to give any details on the content. People will be required to stockpile enough drinking water to last for five days, according to the plan, the paper said. The 69-page report does not see an attack on Germany's territory, which would require a conventional style of national defense, as likely. However, the precautionary measures demand that people "prepare appropriately for a development that could threaten our existence and cannot be categorically ruled out in the future," the paper cited the report as saying.[/quote] [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-security-stockpiling-idUSKCN10W0MJ[/url]

this sounds like fear mongering to me

[QUOTE=SonicHitman;50925486]this sounds like fear mongering to me[/QUOTE] i mean, no matter where you are it is a good idea to have enough food and water stockpiled for 5 or so days.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50925549]i mean, no matter where you are it is a good idea to have enough food and water stockpiled for 5 or so days.[/QUOTE] Not in Ireland. I can't think of an area on this island that could have a major natural disaster that would cause you to be trapped in your house. I mean, it's nice to have but I'd really wonder what the hell you're expecting could happen here in Ireland outside of some crazy meteor impact.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50925549]i mean, no matter where you are it is a good idea to have enough food and water stockpiled for 5 or so days.[/QUOTE] If you don't have a weeks worth of food and water from grocery shopping you might have a different problem.

[QUOTE=plunger435;50925583]If you don't have a weeks worth of food and water from grocery shopping you might have a different problem.[/QUOTE] what exactly would that problem be?

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;50925577]Not in Ireland. I can't think of an area on this island that could have a major natural disaster that would cause you to be trapped in your house. I mean, it's nice to have but I'd really wonder what the hell you're expecting could happen here in Ireland outside of some crazy meteor impact.[/QUOTE] power grid failure or GPS satellite knockout due to solar flare, for one. [editline]21st August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=plunger435;50925583]If you don't have a weeks worth of food and water from grocery shopping you might have a different problem.[/QUOTE] i don't know about you but my weekly grocery shopping doesn't usually include a weeks worth of nonperishable food and bottled water. [editline]21st August 2016[/editline] if the power is out the food in your fridge will last a day or two at the most.

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;50925577]Not in Ireland. I can't think of an area on this island that could have a major natural disaster that would cause you to be trapped in your house. I mean, it's nice to have but I'd really wonder what the hell you're expecting could happen here in Ireland outside of some crazy meteor impact.[/QUOTE] Isnt there a Nuclear power plant in England that if it goes Chernobyl all the Fallout would go across the sea and cover Ireland?

It's good to have around, probably not necessary, but why not? We try and keep one case of bottled water or two squirreled away at the bottom of the pantry. 64 bottles of water doesnt take up a ton of space and can keep three people supplied for a while, with enough to give neighbors if we need to. Plenty of canned food and etc. as well, since we all love our canned vegis and etc. It doesn't take much space and its fairly cheap, no reason not to have it there, I guess. Nothing wrong with some emergency preparedness.

[QUOTE=Superkilll307;50925610]Isnt there a Nuclear power plant in England that if it goes Chernobyl all the Fallout would go across the sea and cover Ireland?[/QUOTE] Oh blimey, they're onto us

[QUOTE=Superkilll307;50925610]Isnt there a Nuclear power plant in England that if it goes Chernobyl all the Fallout would go across the sea and cover Ireland?[/QUOTE] You mean Sellafield? It's highly unlikely that will ever go Chernobyl on us. Chernobyl was caused by unsafe equipment and improper management for the most part. I would hope the Brits know what they're doing with Sellafield. [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sellafield#Irish_objections"]The Garda and the Radiological Protection Institute of Ireland have access to the site as well.[/URL] I wouldn't consider it a significant risk.

[QUOTE=SonicHitman;50925486]this sounds like fear mongering to me[/QUOTE] Uh no? One of the basic principals of survival is "have food and water to fall back on". While most people don't, it's encouraged regardless because you never know what will happen. You might not be in a flood risk zone, but if a Tunguska Blast happens nearby and leaves you stranded and your infrastructure destroyed, you'll want those supplies.

You should have some food stores because for example here in Indiana, our grocery stores, without being restocked, would run out of food in three days during an emergency. The people around here clammer to the store when there's any word of a big ice storm or blizzard coming through that may disrupt things. I've got about 30 days worth of canned food in storage, doesn't hurt anyone to have it and you just slowly cycle through it to prevent it from going bad. Two years ago we had a snow storm that was so bad that our roads were blocked for two days, and power was out for days for some people. It was good to have a wood burning fireplace and a rick of firewood that storm, some people had to go to churches and community centers because they had no heat.

Honestly, I'm not even scared of an attack or even a disaster striking, and yet at I always keep some nonperishable supplies stocked. It's easy to do and costs close to nothing. On the flip side, if something DOES happen you're fucked if you don't have anything on-hand. I keep the following in the house: - Assorted canned soups. Canned/bagged soup lasts for fucking [i]years[/i] and while it's boring, most brands are pre-heated and sterilized, meaning you can even eat the contents raw. Green pea soup from Unox is 80 cents per 300ml. two or three of those a day will sustain you for a long time. (Don't forget the can opener...) - Bottled water; You need clean water more so than food. Rotate a stock of 12 bottles. You can just buy new bottles, or re-use and clean them. - Vitamin/Mineral supplements; Again, cheap, take little space, last a long time, Prevents a bunch of shit you don't want in an emergency. Literally, even. Taking extra vitamins in unsanitary conditions (like say, flooding, which is the most likely disaster in my area) will help boost your immune system. The last thing you want is a case of the shits when water is a precious commodity, You can of course go nuts with this sort of stuff, and get things like portable burners, water filters, [i]gas masks[/i],. But, if you need to rough-it for a couple of days, some basic long-lasting supplies will save your ass. Pay no attention to the 6 boxes of MRE's stashed in my attic...

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;50925577]Not in Ireland. I can't think of an area on this island that could have a major natural disaster that would cause you to be trapped in your house. I mean, it's nice to have but I'd really wonder what the hell you're expecting could happen here in Ireland outside of some crazy meteor impact.[/QUOTE] Great Potato Famine V2, Electric Boogaloo brought on by global warming? Edit: Ok maybe that sounds stupid in modern times, but it probably wouldn't hurt to plan ahead just in case.

It's always good to have non perishable food and water stored away, I hate it when people go "hurr durr fear mongering".

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;50925577]Not in Ireland. I can't think of an area on this island that could have a major natural disaster that would cause you to be trapped in your house. I mean, it's nice to have but I'd really wonder what the hell you're expecting could happen here in Ireland outside of some crazy meteor impact.[/QUOTE] After reading a survival book for shits n giggles, if a major catastrophe was to happen, about 80% of homes would not have enough food to last a week. [editline]21st August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Krahn;50926027]Honestly, I'm not even scared of an attack or even a disaster striking, and yet at I always keep some nonperishable supplies stocked. It's easy to do and costs close to nothing. On the flip side, if something DOES happen you're fucked if you don't have anything on-hand. I keep the following in the house: - Assorted canned soups. Canned/bagged soup lasts for fucking [i]years[/i] and while it's boring, most brands are pre-heated and sterilized, meaning you can even eat the contents raw. Green pea soup from Unox is 80 cents per 300ml. two or three of those a day will sustain you for a long time. (Don't forget the can opener...) - Bottled water; You need clean water more so than food. Rotate a stock of 12 bottles. You can just buy new bottles, or re-use and clean them. - Vitamin/Mineral supplements; Again, cheap, take little space, last a long time, Prevents a bunch of shit you don't want in an emergency. Literally, even. Taking extra vitamins in unsanitary conditions (like say, flooding, which is the most likely disaster in my area) will help boost your immune system. The last thing you want is a case of the shits when water is a precious commodity, You can of course go nuts with this sort of stuff, and get things like portable burners, water filters, [i]gas masks[/i],. But, if you need to rough-it for a couple of days, some basic long-lasting supplies will save your ass. Pay no attention to the 6 boxes of MRE's stashed in my attic...[/QUOTE] Peanut butter/beef jerky is an excellent source of non perishable foods that are packed with protien and calories. Also if you need to warm a room, you can do it with a tea candle and a flowerpot made of ceramic/terracotta. That book was cool as hell finding ways to rough it out in an emergency.

[QUOTE=SonicHitman;50925486]this sounds like fear mongering to me[/QUOTE] What is this supposed to mean? Who do you think is fear mongering?

[QUOTE=codemaster85;50926881]After reading a survival book for shits n giggles, if a major catastrophe was to happen, about 80% of homes would not have enough food to last a week. [editline]21st August 2016[/editline] Peanut butter/beef jerky is an excellent source of non perishable foods that are packed with protien and calories. Also if you need to warm a room, you can do it with a tea candle and a flowerpot made of ceramic/terracotta. That book was cool as hell finding ways to rough it out in an emergency.[/QUOTE] what was the name of the book?

I wonder if this has anything to do with how they are sure Turkey is supporting ISIS and other terrorist organisations and all the dark ages crazies that entered the country as well as the IS hit squads Merkel invited.

This actually got blown out of proportion. Such siggestions exist since the 60s and plans for change habe been introduced in 2012 if I am not mistaken. There isn't even a threat atm.