Last-minute bid to save a healthy giraffe that Copenhagen Zoo plans to put down on Sunday - Polidicks

[img]http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/72847000/jpg/_72847135_72847134.jpg[/img] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26098935[/url] [quote]Animal rights campaigners are trying to save a healthy young giraffe at Copenhagen Zoo from being destroyed. Thousands of people have signed online petitions appealing for a change of heart over the 18-month-old called Marius, who is due to be put down on Sunday. The zoo says it has no choice because of European rules to avoid in-breeding. It said attempts to find it a new home have failed, but a zoo in Britain says it has space to take the young giraffe. Yorkshire Wildlife Park (YWP) near Doncaster said it had contacted Copenhagen Zoo after reading about Marius's plight on the BBC. It has a state-of-the-art giraffe house with a herd of four male giraffes - one of which came from Copenhagen Zoo in 2012 - and the capacity to take an extra male, the park told the BBC. "We have tried to contact Copenhagen to confirm if they are looking to rehome their young giraffe, as this could be a solution that provides a positive outcome for everyone - including Marius," said John Minion, joint managing director of the park. A zoo in Sweden - which unlike the YWP is not affiliated to the European Association of Zoos and Animals (EAZA) which oversees the breeding programme - has also reportedly offered to take in Marius.[/quote]

Cant they just snip its ballsack?

[QUOTE=Sprockethead;43843633]Cant they just snip its ballsack?[/QUOTE] Maybe they only have space for a certain number of giraffes so they have to replace Marius with one that can breed [editline]9th February 2014[/editline] Maybe they must maintain genetic purity against this Jewraffe [editline]9th February 2014[/editline] Found [url=http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1xducw/a_giraffe_at_copenhagen_zoo_will_be_destroyed/cfai9ea]the actual answer[/url] [quote][B]Why can't Zoo give the giraffes birth control pills instead?[/B] In Zoo we let animals breed at regular intervals, i.e. the same interval they would breed in nature. We do this to give the animals an opportunity to behave as natural as possible. And some of the behavior that is really important in the animals behavioral repertoire is parenting. This is a 24 hour job for a longer period, and we must not deny them this behavior. Furthermore birth control pills and other neutralizing options can have several unwanted side effects on their internal organs, we will thus be likely to cause a poorer welfare in order to avoid having to kill them.[/quote]

He is dead now. And animal rights activists are doing it wrong. If they really cared they'd be boycotting zoos way before this incident. It's not secret that inner city zoos have absolutely atrociously bad conditions for the animals, namely the amount of space they can roam. It's sad that he was put down when there were ways to get him a new home. We can at least hope his body will be used for science/lion food rather than biological waste.

it can come and live with me

What's the alternative? They can't keep it because of both inbreeding concerns and space concerns, and they can't find a new home. Would people rather they kept it in an overcrowded enclosure? Or sold it off to somewhere that isn't going to be able to take care of it? It sucks that they need to put it down, but there's really nothing else they can do.

[QUOTE=smurfy;43843653]Maybe they only have space for a certain number of giraffes so they have to replace Marius with one that can breed [editline]9th February 2014[/editline] Maybe they must maintain genetic purity against this Jewraffe [editline]9th February 2014[/editline] Found [url=http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1xducw/a_giraffe_at_copenhagen_zoo_will_be_destroyed/cfai9ea]the actual answer[/url][/QUOTE] I think death would have far more unwanted side effects than birth control pills.

Put it out into the wild again maybe?

[QUOTE]Animal rights campaigners are trying to save a healthy young giraffe at Copenhagen Zoo [B]from being destroyed.[/B][/QUOTE] The Zookeepers don't fuck around. [QUOTE]18-month-old called Marius[/QUOTE] The executioner better have been called Sulla.

Damn, I was really thinkign this was my chance to re-enact the hangover part 3

I swear it's like they've never heard of the internet or other zoo's for that matter. [url]http://www.livingdesert.org/[/url] They should have just got a hold of these people from my State, they run an all desert animal park here.

[QUOTE]Animal rights campaigners are trying to save a healthy young giraffe at Copenhagen Zoo [B]from being destroyed.[/QUOTE][/B] How can you [B]destroy[/B] a living thing?

[QUOTE=morky;43847542][/B] How can you [B]destroy[/B] a living thing?[/QUOTE] With a bolt gun apparently.

[url]http://world.time.com/2014/02/09/marius-giraffe-copenhagen-zoo/[/url]

[QUOTE=HkSniper;43848242][url]http://world.time.com/2014/02/09/marius-giraffe-copenhagen-zoo/[/url][/QUOTE] That's how I want to go out.

[URL]http://www.bt.dk/danmark/se-alle-billederne-marius-parteres-og-bliver-til-loevefoder[/URL] Slideshow including some pictures of the dissection [U][B][NSFW, blood etc.][/B][/U] Even though this seems wrong, they seem to be more focussed on the long term survival of the population. Obviously a lot of people will be upset by the killing of Marius, but if his genes are already represented well enough in the breeding colonies, there really doesn't seem to be much of an option, especially as the places which he could've filled, could be better used in an attempt to increase the size of the gene pool (rather than decreasing it) by introducing a giraffe with a different genotype. I suppose one option would have been to use him to replace an ageing giraffe of a similar genotype, but once again, you come back to the problem of having a spare giraffe, which ultimately would have to be killed. [QUOTE=carcarcargo;43845834]I think death would have far more unwanted side effects than birth control pills.[/QUOTE] As the Time article says contraceptives can result in renal failure, which would result in a prolonged and more painful death. Zoos are meant to allow animals to express their natural behaviour as much as possible (one of the five freedoms) and castrating him (or using contraceptives) would severely affect any attempt to allow this. On a relevant note, [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-26108506"]6 lions were destroyed at Longleat due to excessive aggression[/URL]. The article makes it appear as though over-crowding resulted in this aggression, and that this was the only reason for them being put down. No mention is made of their ability for breeding purposes, and their were also cubs among them. I find this to be much worse than the giraffe killing, as they could've had the potential to increase the population of a threatened species (giraffes are of least concern), if they had been able to find space for them.

""I'm actually proud because I think we have given children a huge understanding of the anatomy of a giraffe that they wouldn't have had from watching a giraffe in a photo," Stenbaek Bro told AP." Give me a fucking break. Edit: please elaborate on how I'm dumb -xxsetshotxx- and whoever else thinks so. I'd love to hear your scientific explanations.

At least he didn't end up in hands of this man: [IMG]http://media.giphy.com/media/O9nYyYFTwXIZ2/giphy.gif[/IMG] ...and then you all know what happens next...

yeah I was gonna say not to give the giraffe to Alan but two people have already mentioned it and now the giraffe is dead. on the bright side he didn't have his head knocked off

[QUOTE=falloutguy;43854154]yeah I was gonna say not to give the giraffe to Alan but two people have already mentioned it and now the giraffe is dead. on the bright side he didn't have his head knocked off[/QUOTE] No, he was just cut up and fed to lions.

[QUOTE=Squarebob;43854192]No, he was just cut up and fed to lions.[/QUOTE] What's wrong with that?

it could have come live with me only if its balls weren't snipped though

Yeah lets shoot the thing in the head and then cut him up and feed him to lions in front of onlookers and children. Thats fucked. Couldnt neuter him? Give him a fucking vasectomy. Its really concerning they went with euthanasia instead of sending him somewhere else.

What a waste of life, but at least he doesn't have to spend his life in a cage that is pitiful for such a regal animal.

"As a Facepuncher I know zookeeping and animal breeding better than zookeepers and breeders. They shpuld have done what I wanted!"

[QUOTE=Cabbalistic;43848638][URL]http://www.bt.dk/danmark/se-alle-billederne-marius-parteres-og-bliver-til-loevefoder[/URL] Slideshow including some pictures of the dissection [U][B][NSFW, blood etc.][/B][/U][/QUOTE] The kids seem disturbingly happy with it. Maybe it's the photographer that didn't pick the ones crying or something, buut... "Hey aunt! Today I went to the zoo with uncle John and we saw a giraffe being killed and cut to pieces!!! 8D" [editline]10th February 2014[/editline] Hell, one of them seems even [I]bored[/I] by it.

[QUOTE=Squad1993;43854689]Yeah lets shoot the thing in the head and then cut him up and feed him to lions in front of onlookers and children. Thats fucked. Couldnt neuter him? Give him a fucking vasectomy. Its really concerning they went with euthanasia instead of sending him somewhere else.[/QUOTE] I am not sure but I don't think anybody ever performed vasectomy level surgery on an animal, you know, that's kinda precision high level shit unlike neutering it.

[QUOTE=Blackwheel;43853749]""I'm actually proud because I think we have given children a huge understanding of the anatomy of a giraffe that they wouldn't have had from watching a giraffe in a photo," Stenbaek Bro told AP." Give me a fucking break. Edit: please elaborate on how I'm dumb -xxsetshotxx- and whoever else thinks so. I'd love to hear your scientific explanations.[/QUOTE] I find that the learning experience (as well as general experience) is so much different between pictures / videos and the actual thing. Take a post mortem, for example, looking at pictures of a body being opened up, in stages, would be a completely different and less beneficial experience than actually being there and watching how they work through it. Being able to watch exactly what they are doing, and how they have to cut through the different layers of skin, muscle etc. to see the inner workings of such an incredible animal is a rare opportunity. By looking at a picture of it, would you be able to describe the composure of the neck? Also, being there, you have the ability to get up close and personal with an animal that some kids would only see in pictures, and having the ability to ask questions, an opportunity which pictures could not replicate.

[QUOTE=Cabbalistic;43860518]I find that the learning experience (as well as general experience) is so much different between pictures / videos and the actual thing. Take a post mortem, for example, looking at pictures of a body being opened up, in stages, would be a completely different and less beneficial experience than actually being there and watching how they work through it. Being able to watch exactly what they are doing, and how they have to cut through the different layers of skin, muscle etc. to see the inner workings of such an incredible animal is a rare opportunity. By looking at a picture of it, would you be able to describe the composure of the neck? Also, being there, you have the ability to get up close and personal with an animal that some kids would only see in pictures, and having the ability to ask questions, an opportunity which pictures could not replicate.[/QUOTE] The children went to protest the killing of the giraffe, most likely lead there by their parents who told them of the injustice they were going to go fight. The kids had in their minds projected human feelings and conciousness upon the animal (regardless of how aware or conscious you think he/she is), and then in the same day, watched the giraffe they wanted to save being cutup into layers... so they could learn about the subdermal parts of the animal... because .. ..why? This is information they needed to be shown as little kids so when they are older and they all become vetrenarians, they know how to perform surgery on said animals?? Do I really have to point out that there is something wrong about, not only the events themselves, but the sequence of these events? Edit: haha wow are you guys being serious? You don't see what's wrong about this?

This is absolutely disgusting.