Dunno what they are going about with the steam controller being about the same as 360 controller when it comes to shooters, it works a lot better, not as well as a mouse, but a LOT better than a controller.
I do agree with the button placement tho, I press Y instead of X a lot too, but I just got this thing 2 days ago on a whim while at gamestop, so I'm not 100% used to the buttons.
I'm not really interested, i'd still rather have a m+k, not that i'm saying this pad is crap but still most people would probably agree unless you're a die hard valve fan(yes i know what forum i'm on)
Some games I just don't like playing with a keyboard and mouse. Say, Assassin's Creed, Grand Theft Auto, basically third person games. But those third person games have shooter segments which feel janky with a controller. I find myself frustrated at trying to hit my target, and I [I]especially[/I] hate sniping segments with a controller. I always find myself fiddling with the right aim saying "no, a bit to the right. Shit, fuck, to the left. God damn it." The Steam controller finds a nice balance. And it's versitality is amazing, to me.
One thing that stood out to me was basically a feature I first encountered in Ocarina of Time 3D. You equiped the slingshot/bow, and you could aim normally with the circle-pad. But you could also use the gyroscope to aim. I found myself using a combination of this, aiming generally with the circle-pad, and fine-tuning with the gyroscope. No controller seemed to impliment this. Dualshock 3 was fully capable, but I've yet to play a game that used it. Steam Controller, through custimization, can.
[QUOTE=heathrowqueue on YouTube][video=youtube;B43ibnztDLc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B43ibnztDLc[/video][/QUOTE]
This really appeals to me, hypothetically solving the issue I mentioned earlier.
As someone who's been following the steam controller really hard since announcement, i can 100% say nobody has unlocked its full potential yet.
If anyone here owns one and thinks its crap or thinks its too hard to set up, I recommend [URL="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUC9UEfbjR-WtwaLV7q0xhQ"]Woodsie's tutorials.[/URL] They're some of the most in depth out there and he has quite a few since he's had the controller early for awhile now. He's also a good friend of mine so any questions anyone has, I could direct to him.
I want to know what it's like with emulators since that's that's mainly how I use controllers.
[QUOTE=AnnieOakley;49117922]I want to know what it's like with emulators since that's that's mainly how I use controllers.[/QUOTE]
Why would you want it for emulators? Pretty much anything you might be emulating will probably have had either a d-pad or a stick originally and any other traditional controller already has that.
I used my friends steam controller and tried out MGS V at this house earlier this week and I have to say i'd really rather use something like a PS4 controller. It has a touchpad that can be used as a mouse for the more controller unfriendly areas in games and it has a nice size and weight imo.
[QUOTE=AnnieOakley;49117922]I want to know what it's like with emulators since that's that's mainly how I use controllers.[/QUOTE]
Currently, there's no support. It's not read as a real Xinput controller, so you can't just connect to it in the emulator, unfortuantely. It might be coming soon!
Dolphin works decently with the controller. You know, with it's emulate-a-keyboard thing.
[QUOTE=Holt!;49118351]I used my friends steam controller and tried out MGS V at this house earlier this week and I have to say i'd really rather use something like a PS4 controller. It has a touchpad that can be used as a mouse for the more controller unfriendly areas in games and it has a nice size and weight imo.[/QUOTE]
You have to get used to it, it's definitely absolutely worth it. It has a pretty steep learning curve though, and to actually [I]get[/I] buttons right you're better off manually doing it.
I hear mgs 5 doesn't like mouse + joystick at the same time. Some games have shit support for people using 'hybrid' controls. Fallout 4 literally cannot use Joystick + mouse for example but it works well as a controller even with just KB/M button set ups.
[QUOTE=SoUl_ReApEr2;49116175]I'm not really interested, i'd still rather have a m+k, not that i'm saying this pad is crap but still most people would probably agree unless you're a die hard valve fan(yes i know what forum i'm on)[/QUOTE]
if you pretty much don't give a shit about customization and love sticks, or would rather use a keyboard, theres like, 0 reason to buy this for sure.
Why buy a flight stick when you'd rather a controller, after all.
person I found this thing to be basically my 'ultimate control device'
Rich nailed it when he talked about wireless m&k as a better alternative for couch gaming. I've been using a wireless setup for months with only a few issues (e.g. occasional input delay). The main drawback is that you have to sit upright; some people might want to lie down or sprawl all over their couch.
I feel like they gave it an unfair shake, but only because there's no point in THEM owning one
Rich is a KB/M guy and Jack is a controller guy. Neither of them are both. You'll find it a lot easier to love if you like both.
[QUOTE=J!NX;49119087]I feel like they gave it an unfair shake, but only because there's no point in THEM owning one
Rich is a KB/M guy and Jack is a controller guy. Neither of them are both. You'll find it a lot easier to love if you like both.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely true. Altho the more you use it, the harder it is to put down. There's something really fun about finding out how you can make a game mechanically and fluidly work on the steam controller.
[QUOTE=Paige;49119225]Absolutely true. Altho the more you use it, the harder it is to put down. There's something really fun about finding out how you can make a game mechanically and fluidly work on the steam controller.[/QUOTE]
I came from a customizable mouse + gamepad so I was already under the spell of macros and customization.
literally 15% of my time playing dying light was having fun trying to find what worked, up until I completed my settings with the mouse wheel using items automatically, right mouse for shield, and a bunch of other shit.
my second playthrough of Dead space 3 basically composed of my mouse combining aim and shoot, and me snapping around blatting everything like a psychopath
now I kind of regret wasting money on a gamepad I never use.
[QUOTE=LegndNikko;49116308]Some games I just don't like playing with a keyboard and mouse. Say, Assassin's Creed, Grand Theft Auto, basically third person games. But those third person games have shooter segments which feel janky with a controller. I find myself frustrated at trying to hit my target, and I [I]especially[/I] hate sniping segments with a controller. I always find myself fiddling with the right aim saying "no, a bit to the right. Shit, fuck, to the left. God damn it." The Steam controller finds a nice balance. And it's versitality is amazing, to me.
One thing that stood out to me was basically a feature I first encountered in Ocarina of Time 3D. You equiped the slingshot/bow, and you could aim normally with the circle-pad. But you could also use the gyroscope to aim. I found myself using a combination of this, aiming generally with the circle-pad, and fine-tuning with the gyroscope. No controller seemed to impliment this. Dualshock 3 was fully capable, but I've yet to play a game that used it. Steam Controller, through custimization, can.
This really appeals to me, hypothetically solving the issue I mentioned earlier.[/QUOTE]
Pretty neat. But why is the controller making a buzzing sound whenever he is touching the right pad?
[QUOTE=CommanderPT;49120849]Pretty neat. But why is the controller making a buzzing sound whenever he is touching the right pad?[/QUOTE] Hepetic feedback, you can turn it off or even make stronger/weaker
Honestly the best use i've had for the steam controller has been navigating windows from a couch/bed. Obviously it's not going to replace a KB+M on the desktop but it does a fine job in places where you wouldn't be able to use them, it's far better at multitasking than anything else with that form factor.
i love my steam controller tbh, i'm still getting used to it and it's not great for everything but it's a cool piece of hardware and i'm really glad i own it
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