Chief Removes "Punisher" Emblem, ‘Blue Lives Matter’ From Police Cars After Public Reacts - Polidicks

[t]http://i.imgur.com/rSVQKc7.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/ac3mbSb.jpg[/t] [quote] An Eastern Kentucky police chief has removed large decals with the Punisher skull and “Blue Lives Matter” from eight police cars after a backlash following the publication of a Herald-Leader story. The Catlettsburg Police department, which employs eight full-time and two part-time officers for a population of about 2,500, featured the images on the hoods of its 2013 and 2017 Ford Interceptor sedans and sport-utility vehicles, assistant police chief Gerry Hatzel said. The stylized skull was from “The Punisher” comic book series. The logo was praised by local residents but raised questions among others in the commonwealth. The designs were spearheaded by Police Chief Cameron Logan, who worked with a vinyl decal shop in Louisiana to get the decals printed. Logan installed the decals on all the police vehicles in December. He would not discuss how much the decals cost. “That design is basically to give back to the police officers,” Logan, who has been with the department for 13 years, said before reversing course on the emblems. “Our lives matter just as much as anybody’s. ... I’m not racist or anything like that, I’m not trying to stir anything up like that. I consider it to be a ‘warrior logo.’ Just cause it has ‘Blue Lives Matter’ on the hood, all lives matter. That decal represents that we will take any means necessary to keep our community safe.” Overdoses and drug-related crimes have been on the rise, the chief said. The city council and Mayor Randall Peterman approved the designs, Logan said. The Herald-Leader unsuccessfully sought comment from the mayor. [/quote] I would agree, Mr. Logan, the lives of those who protect the public are just as important as everyone else, however using the logo of one Mr. Frank Castle doesn't get your point across. :rolleyes: Fucking oops, source is [url=http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/article134722264.html]Lexington Herald Leader[/url]

Lmao. Yeah the Punisher maybe isn't the best representative for the police.

It's like Idiocracy in real life. The Punisher? Come on.

It was pretty bad ass looking you have to admit, even though it sends the wrong message :v:

[QUOTE=srobins;51870035]It's like Idiocracy in real life. The Punisher? Come on.[/QUOTE] Theres a lot worse going around. All of it is pretty cringy

How dense do you have to be to think this would ever be a good idea? 'Warrior' design? Give me a fucking break. They're police officers not fucking soldiers Idk if as a police department you thought this was okay, maybe you should take a look at yourself

The Punisher is cool and all but he's [i]proooobably[/i] not the best character to use iconography from if you're a police officer considering his whole schtick is taking it upon himself to punish criminals without the restraint of law.

[QUOTE=Doozle;51870060]How dense do you have to be to think this would ever be a good idea? 'Warrior' design? Give me a fucking break. They're police officers not fucking soldiers[/QUOTE] I was thinking the same thing but apparently the local community actually liked it. The bubbles we live in are incredible.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51870070]I was thinking the same thing but apparently the local community actually liked it. The bubbles we live in are incredible.[/QUOTE] I mean I can see that, being a town of just 2500 (my high school had 1300 kids in it). But then I think at a population of 2500 I bet they haven't faced any anti racist police violence demonstrations and I'm willing to bet they've got an absolutely tiny non-white community which is why the townspeople liked it. It's all very bizarre and seems like the 8 cops patting themselves on the back a bit too hard

those are fuck ugly cop cars

Punisher skull feels one step away from this. What were they thinking? [t]http://tastytriviaorlando.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/1236550710_vVeb5-M.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=BusinessRed;51870137]Punisher skull feels one step away from this. What were they thinking? [t]http://tastytriviaorlando.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/1236550710_vVeb5-M.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] one step away from the decepticons?

Jesus Christ that white and blue American Flag pattern looks awful on the Punisher skull.

At what point did they think that was every a good idea. Where they drunk?

I feel like that design belongs on Etsy, not actual squad cars. We put Autobot insignias on our fire engines a couple years ago, it's simple and easily recognizable by all ages.

[QUOTE=BusinessRed;51870137]Punisher skull feels one step away from this. What were they thinking? [t]http://tastytriviaorlando.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/1236550710_vVeb5-M.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] lmao the fuck are you on about next thing you gonna tell me is that because their car doesn't sport the black quarter panels they're trying to send a white supremacist message. It's some small town cops who fucked up a bit with a logo design and didn't think through the connotations fully. They're police officers, not trained art examiners with a specialty in analyzing the connections of racism to logo design. They tried to have some fun with logos and fucked up a bit on the PR spectrum. Like christ what is this shit about the "commonwealth" it's a small community in eastern Kentucky I doubt they have the same issues as the rest of you. Some states have a legitimate "blue lives matter" policy, that might I remind you wasn't some "fuck the black people" slogan, it was a response to unprecedented calls for police killings and violence by a national movement leading to two officers being shot dead, there's a "Blue Lives Matter" bill in effect in Kentucky as a result of that incident.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51870148]one step away from the decepticons?[/QUOTE] Cybertron isn't sending their best.

Lose the Punisher skull and keep the motto.

This really reeks out of pathetic out-of-shape cops trying to make local townspeople think they're cool. Really, The Punisher? Sure you couldn't use a more inappropriate character? How about Notim Portant from Hatred?

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51870068]The Punisher is cool and all but he's [i]proooobably[/i] not the best character to use iconography from if you're a police officer considering his whole schtick is taking it upon himself to punish criminals without the restraint of law.[/QUOTE] Don't forget the other part of his schtick, where he fucking murders people when he believes they deserve it.

I've heard a lot about the mixed feelings comic creators have about Punisher insignia being co-opted by military forces. Obviously the military is a big part of Frank's backstory (being a vet, originally Vietnam and later altered to Desert Storm) and I can see how both the character and a cool skull design would appeal to people in combat. But as someone who is pretty explicitly an anti-hero (some comic creators even call him an anti-villain) it's a little more complex. [url]http://time.com/3819227/punisher-iraq-isis/[/url] [IMG]https://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/b/70/53adaf27123ab/portrait_incredible.jpg[/IMG] But for [I]police[/I] I feel it's totally out of line to promote such an aggressive look. A "warrior logo" may be fine for military service, but for police officers "any means necessary" is not the way to go. [QUOTE=Steel & Iron;51870016][t]http://i.imgur.com/rSVQKc7.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] Terrible sociopolictical decisions aside, that is such a [I]hideous[/I] design. The white stripes break up the skull so it's almost unreadable, and the blue/black contrast isn't high enough to read clearly. Plus the strong crisp vector lines and stars don't mesh with the scraggly skull outline. Although a quick Google shows that this design is apparently already for sale on a variety of sites like Etsy or RedBubble... interesting. [t]https://img0.etsystatic.com/058/0/8423669/il_570xN.745517818_j4sf.jpg[/t][t]https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.194099999.7118/raf,750x1000,075,t,101010:01c5ca27c6.u1.jpg[/t][t]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/9f/48/47/9f4847d9976ecfa5dae83e2cfac43c38.jpg[/t][t]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d6/b7/12/d6b712b87dc56de56e3c8aaa22226f2b.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;51870204]lmao the fuck are you on about next thing you gonna tell me is that because their car doesn't sport the black quarter panels they're trying to send a white supremacist message. It's some small town cops who fucked up a bit with a logo design and didn't think through the connotations fully. They're police officers, not trained art examiners with a specialty in analyzing the connections of racism to logo design. They tried to have some fun with logos and fucked up a bit on the PR spectrum. Like christ what is this shit about the "commonwealth" it's a small community in eastern Kentucky I doubt they have the same issues as the rest of you. Some states have a legitimate "blue lives matter" policy, that might I remind you wasn't some "fuck the black people" slogan, it was a response to unprecedented calls for police killings and violence by a national movement leading to two officers being shot dead, there's a "Blue Lives Matter" bill in effect in Kentucky as a result of that incident.[/QUOTE] You don't have to be a PR guru to recognise that putting skulls on a police car might not be a good idea

I'm not trying to say that the Punisher is a bad character and you shouldn't read his comics, incidentally. Judge Dredd is one of my favorite comics and he is the face of a fascist police state - just because they're a protagonist doesn't mean you have to agree with everything they do and represent.

shoulda been judge dredd's logo anyways

[QUOTE=Doozle;51870060]How dense do you have to be to think this would ever be a good idea? 'Warrior' design? Give me a fucking break. They're police officers not fucking soldiers Idk if as a police department you thought this was okay, maybe you should take a look at yourself[/QUOTE] A lot of police departments are just a bunch of dads if you think about it. I know my dad likes the punisher. Sucks that they tattooed their cars with it though.

This just in people get offended by fictional characters.

[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;51870204]lmao the fuck are you on about next thing you gonna tell me is that because their car doesn't sport the black quarter panels they're trying to send a white supremacist message. It's some small town cops who fucked up a bit with a logo design and didn't think through the connotations fully. They're police officers, not trained art examiners with a specialty in analyzing the connections of racism to logo design. They tried to have some fun with logos and fucked up a bit on the PR spectrum. Like christ what is this shit about the "commonwealth" it's a small community in eastern Kentucky I doubt they have the same issues as the rest of you. Some states have a legitimate "blue lives matter" policy, that might I remind you wasn't some "fuck the black people" slogan, it was a response to unprecedented calls for police killings and violence by a national movement leading to two officers being shot dead, there's a "Blue Lives Matter" bill in effect in Kentucky as a result of that incident.[/QUOTE] Blue lives matter was formed in retaliation to black lives matter. These two groups already have a tribal-like "Us vs them" relationship with each other. Adding the punisher's skull to your blue lives matter logo on your cop car just further escalates this mindset between the two groups. I'm not saying that it was the cop's intention and that I agree with this mentality, but it's naive to say that the extremists in black lives matter won't see it as an intentional act of aggression. I mean come on it's a fucking skull associated with the punisher (Someone who acts outside of the law and kills in the name of his own vigilante justice) right next to the line "Protect and serve". Black lives matter activists already feel like they're being targeted, besides just the skull you don't have to think very far to see where this might be a bad idea.

Write "Blue Lives Matter" on your squad cars all you like, because they do, but leave the symbols of death to the soldiers. Peace keepers don't need skulls all over their stuff.

Well at least it's a skull and not a rat's anus

[QUOTE=MR-X;51870388]This just in people get offended by fictional characters.[/QUOTE] People aren't offended that The Punisher exists, they're alarmed that a social service designed to protect citizens through law and order is using iconography connected with murderous vigilante-style justice specifically going outside proper channels.