May day, Anti-Capitalist protest clash with police force in Montreal. Canada
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[url]http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/dozens-arrested-in-anti-capitalism-may-day-protest-in-montreal-1.3058316[/url]
MONTREAL -- Downtown Montreal was plunged into familiar chaos for a few hours on Friday night as several hundred protesters, many wearing masks, clashed with police who fired off tear gas to try to disperse them.
Many of the demonstrators said they were bent on destroying capitalism as they engaged in cat-and-mouse tactics with police on May Day, breaking up when forced to and then gathering again in small groups for renewed confrontation.
An official with the city's ambulance service said five people were treated -- two police officers and three other people.
Children gassed by police
Families and bystanders were among those gassed early in the demonstration. One woman said she brought her family to the protest thinking it would be peaceful.
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As they wave their flags mass produced in factories, probably by 5 year old Chinese children in a communist(ish) country.
Most anti-capitalists seem to just want to be contrarians who often indulge in fruits of capitalism more than the rest (yes, I'm talking to you, the girl sitting in Starbucks on her iPhone yelling "Fuck the government" at the top of her lungs).
Why don't you just emigrate to all these wonderful and successful communist countries if you don't like capitalism?
First Turkey, now Canada?
Haha wtf
Why would you proudly be holding a banner with the face of Mao on it? Have those people ever taken a lesson in history? Who would look at Mao and think 'yeah he was a good communist'?
[QUOTE=Impact1986;47648037]Why don't you just emigrate to all these wonderful and successful communist countries if you don't like capitalism?[/QUOTE]
You're missing the point of pure-blooded, fully-riled socialism. You have to share the misery.
[QUOTE=Impact1986;47648037]Why don't you just emigrate to all these wonderful and successful communist countries if you don't like capitalism?[/QUOTE]
The main reason why these people are striking is because the stupid government policies that keep milking down the citizens claiming it has no money and must pay the debt and then give 200,000$ as departure bonus to ministers who resign for incompetence.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;47648066]Haha wtf
Why would you proudly be holding a banner with the face of Mao on it? Have those people ever taken a lesson in history?[/QUOTE]
Lies from the capitalist pigs
[QUOTE=Baron von Hax;47648027]As they wave their flags mass produced in factories, probably by 5 year old chinese children in a communist(ish) country.
Most anti-capitalists seem to just want to be contrarians who often indulge in fruits of capitalism more than the rest (yes, I'm talking to you, the girl sitting in starbucks on her iPhone yelling "Fuck the government" at the top of her lungs).[/QUOTE]
Ah yes like it's totally possible that it's their fault they were born in a capitalist nation.
Poorly/un regulated capitalism has and will do a lot of goddamnevil things, like paying poor people pennies to work in sweatshops and shit. Communism might not be the right answer, but holy shit a lot of things seem just plain broken and wrong when people are starving in 1st world nations while a tiny minority of rich people holds most of the wealth.
Shit like being scared to go to the doctor because you might become bankrupt from the outrageous hospital bills is a REAL THING that shouldn't happen to anyone, but it does.
[QUOTE=Baron von Hax;47648027]As they wave their flags mass produced in factories, probably by 5 year old chinese children in a communist(ish) country.[/QUOTE]
i dont see how thats relevant. china isn't truly communist anymore, and almost anything produced now is going to have been made with exploitative labour somewhere.
[QUOTE=Baron von Hax;47648027]As they wave their flags mass produced in factories, probably by 5 year old Chinese children in a communist(ish) country.
Most anti-capitalists seem to just want to be contrarians who often indulge in fruits of capitalism more than the rest (yes, I'm talking to you, the girl sitting in Starbucks on her iPhone yelling "Fuck the government" at the top of her lungs).[/QUOTE]
anti capitalism doesn't mean anti factory or anti industry
[editline]3rd May 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Impact1986;47648037]Why don't you just emigrate to all these wonderful and [B]successful communist countries[/B] if you don't like capitalism?[/QUOTE]
because there aren't any
[QUOTE=Levithan;47648086]Ah yes like it's totally possible that it's their fault they were born in a capitalist nation.
Poorly/un regulated capitalism has and will do a lot of goddamnevil things, like paying poor people pennies to work in sweatshops and shit. Communism might not be the right answer, but holy shit a lot of things seem just plain broken and wrong when people are starving in 1st world nations while a tiny minority of rich people holds most of the wealth.
Shit like being scared to go to the doctor because you might become bankrupt from the outrageous hospital bills is a REAL THING that shouldn't happen to anyone, but it does.[/QUOTE]
But the issue you state is specific to America, not to Capitalism. Most countries have a mixed economy, not only capitalism (as most seem to believe).
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;47648102]because there aren't any[/QUOTE]
That is the point.
[QUOTE=Baron von Hax;47648110]But the issue you state is specific to America, not to Capitalism. Most countries have a mixed economy, not only capitalism (as most seem to believe).[/QUOTE]
america has mixed economy as well, just not as well mixed as it should be
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;47648102]anti capitalism doesn't mean anti factory or anti industry
[editline]3rd May 2015[/editline]
because there aren't any[/QUOTE]
In response to the statement directed at me: I was merely making the point that some people think communism would somehow make society more fair and just but it simply won't.
In response to the stament aimed at Impact: You clearly missed the intentional irony of the post. [Ninja'd]
[QUOTE=Baron von Hax;47648110]But the issue you state is specific to America, not to Capitalism. Most countries have a mixed economy, not only capitalism (as most seem to believe).[/QUOTE]
The idea is the same. It's true that Canada has a very mixed economy. ( Free school, Free healthcare, Minimum welfare income ) etc. I think the strike is just to let pass an idea to other people who have to deal without the aid from the government.
The U.S is an example of extreme capitalism sometime.
These people just want the government to act against pure captialism. Taxing the rich banks and companies instead of milking the poors
so is violence on may day an annual thing in montreal like it is in seattle?
[QUOTE=Impact1986;47648121]That is the point.[/QUOTE]
ohhhhh i get it, so it's either terribly instituted "communism" or capitalism? cool
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;47648042]First Turkey, now Canada?[/QUOTE]
Its Montreal, they have annual protests about stuff like police brutality, etc.
Also I have a friend there who posted how he was going out to a store to grab some food but got tear gassed instead.
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;47648133]ohhhhh i get it, so it's either terribly instituted "communism" or capitalism? cool[/QUOTE]
There's a reason we've only even seen communism as 'terribly instituted' and that's because it doesn't work.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;47648131]so is violence on may day an annual thing in montreal like it is in seattle?[/QUOTE]
Lol. Well shit happen. the last few months were quite full of these type of manifestation. Mostly the student strikes etc.
Police are often the first to engage then people start to get pissed off
[QUOTE=markfu;47648139]Its Montreal, they have annual protests about stuff like police brutality, etc.
Also I have a friend there who posted how he was going out to a store to grab some food but got tear gassed instead.[/QUOTE]
Police clashing outside? Better go buy some bags of milk.
[QUOTE=Baron von Hax;47648145]There's a reason we've only even seen communism as 'terribly instituted' and that's because it doesn't work.[/QUOTE]
there's never been communism, only ever socialism turned quickly into dictaorship
[QUOTE=Laferio;47648154]Police clashing outside? Better go buy some bags of milk.[/QUOTE]
It might have happened a few minutes before the clash then he got stuck in
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;47648158]there's never been communism, only ever socialism turned quickly into dictaorship[/QUOTE]
Vietnam? (Correct me if I'm wrong)
I just find it hard to believe that 'there's never been communism'.
My opinion is that true capitalism died when the anti trust laws were established. Before that you had the big 3 titans Rockefeller, Carnegie and Morgan monopolizing the industries and making huge profits by slashing more and more of their workers income. Rockefeller even ended up as the richest person in the history of the united states, having such a wealth that it accounted for more than 1.5% of the national economy.
[editline]3rd May 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;47648158]there's never been communism, only ever socialism turned quickly into dictaorship[/QUOTE]
No, what you are thinking of is marxism.
it's a shame that North America's once historically abundant participation in communism, socialism, labor rights in general--and a bunch of other radical philosophies that connected it to the major continental intellectual traditions of the time--have been downplayed so severely that you get protests like these that are essentially dress-up parties and ironically represent capitalism's regurgitated caricature of communism
I really wish it could've been peaceful
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;47648230]I really wish it could've been peaceful[/QUOTE]
I think it was at the start. I wasn't there.
[QUOTE=pac0master;47648244]I think it was at the start. I wasn't there.[/QUOTE]
protests like this usually do start peacefully, but go violent due to shitheads, pent up anger, or occasionally police
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