Holy shit, no damage to the dudes fingers or anything?
That shot really in one in a million, damn.
I love the way he got arrested too.
They just flip over the whole fucking chair.
this is amazing, when was this? with all the news lately, it seems that nowadays the police would just shoot the guy for waiving around his gun
That's some lucky luke level shot right there.
[QUOTE=despo;44247369]this is amazing, when was this? with all the news lately, it seems that nowadays the police would just shoot the guy for waiving around his gun[/QUOTE]
Times changed.
guy's reaction was cool
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;44244863]Holy shit, no damage to the dudes fingers or anything?
That shot really in one in a million, damn.[/QUOTE]
I doubt there is any way he got away from that with nothing, the way the gun shattered and the shrapnel from the sniper bullet means he had to have a couple scratches on him. Not to mention getting a gun shot out of your hand is gonna sting like hell.
He probably got away with no broken fingers considering it looks like the bullet shattered the trigger guard.
i can't help but wonder how many other solutions failed that they decided to try a sniper shot on his gun
like, his chair is only facing one way. maybe they could have snuck up from behind? or, maybe had the sniper shoot off one of the legs of the chair?
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Clearly this isn't a popular opinion, i understand that. it's just that, consider if this event had never happened. this idea would be ridiculed, called absurd, and hollywood-ish. i think it's incredible that it worked out, but it's more remarkable in my head that the police chief brought this strategy to the forefront, and they seriously went ahead with it
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[QUOTE=DChapsfield;44247661]i can't help but wonder how many other solutions failed that they decided to try a sniper shot on his gun
like, his chair is only facing one way. maybe they could have snuck up from behind? or, maybe had the sniper shoot off one of the legs of the chair?[/QUOTE]
I can only think of one other situation where a police marksman shot the weapon away from the gunman. And it was when the negotiators convinced the gunman to just sit the gun down on the hood of a vehicle, and the marksman shot the hood right where the gun was resting, sending it flying.
The only reason this shot worked was because the gunman kept resting his hand and the gun in the same spot for periods of time with nothing behind it to hit. It's not something that can be done otherwise, and situations that could call for a similar shot never occur.
And shooting the leg of the chair? Sneaking up behind him? He sat down in an open clearing. There's no sneaking up on him, and there's every chance he starts shooting the instant something doesn't go his way, or shoots somebody, including himself, in an ensuing struggle
Since they took him into police custody, a form of arrest, what specific crime did he commit? Suicide is generally not accepted as a crime, as well as attempted suicide. Public terror? Wanton disregard for public safety? Wasting police resources?
I mean I'm glad the police did what they did - it was a [I]very[/I] appropriate response - but was the arrest legally justified?
Ricochets towards the officers would be a big issue too.
[QUOTE=Quark:;44247920]Since they took him into police custody, a form of arrest, what specific crime did he commit? Suicide is generally not accepted as a crime, as well as attempted suicide. Public terror? Wanton disregard for public safety? Wasting police resources?
I mean I'm glad the police did what they did - it was a [I]very[/I] appropriate response - but was the arrest legally justified?[/QUOTE]
Of course it was. It doesn't matter what he was charged with. He probably wasn't treated too criminally after he was disarmed.
[QUOTE=Quark:;44247920]Since they took him into police custody, a form of arrest, what specific crime did he commit? Suicide is generally not accepted as a crime, as well as attempted suicide. Public terror? Wanton disregard for public safety? Wasting police resources?
I mean I'm glad the police did what they did - it was a [I]very[/I] appropriate response - but was the arrest legally justified?[/QUOTE]
I mean what else could they do?
I wouldn't expect them to just say "yep jobs done" and all head home without actually doing something about the guy who was just waving a gun around in public.
[QUOTE=leet;44248000]Of course it was. It doesn't matter what he was charged with. He probably wasn't treated too criminally after he was disarmed.[/QUOTE]
Well legally speaking, a citizen can't be placed under arrested unless they have committed a crime either in the witness of a police officer or with evidence of a crime having been committed. I'm asking if he actually had committed a crime. I imagine disrupting traffic might work, but since there were no vehicles on the road he wasn't really disrupting traffic.
[QUOTE=evilweazel;44248023]I mean what else could they do?
I wouldn't expect them to just say "yep jobs done" and all head home without actually doing something about the guy who was just waving a gun around in public.[/QUOTE]
They did the right thing morally, I just don't know if it was the right thing legally. I'm not much of a legal expert. I just know my personal rights. I'm also not anti-police at all, these guys did good work.
[QUOTE=Quark:;44248066]Well legally speaking, a citizen can't be placed under arrested unless they have committed a crime either in the witness of a police officer or with evidence of a crime having been committed. I'm asking if he actually had committed a crime. I imagine disrupting traffic might work, but since there were no vehicles on the road he wasn't really disrupting traffic.
They did the right thing morally, I just don't know if it was the right thing legally. I'm not much of a legal expert. I just know my personal rights. I'm also not anti-police at all, these guys did good work.[/QUOTE]
Look I know where you are coming from with this but I'm really sure waving a gun around in public threatening to blow your brains out and/or hurt other people I'm sure you can be jailed for that.
If you want to kill yourself you aren't exactly thinking rational or sane so he was a danger for everybody around him.
Of course it's legally justified.
[QUOTE=Quark:;44248066]Well legally speaking, a citizen can't be placed under arrested unless they have committed a crime either in the witness of a police officer or with evidence of a crime having been committed. I'm asking if he actually had committed a crime.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure it isn't legal to sit in the middle of the street waving around any sort of firearm.
He's was a threat to everyone, including himself.
wow the way they just yank him off that chair :/
custody was justified though, when you're in that state you can make a lot of irrational decisions, i just hope he wasn't majorly charged with anything and received good help
[QUOTE=Hamsteronfire;44248728]wow the way they just yank him off that chair :/
custody was justified though, when you're in that state you can make a lot of irrational decisions, i just hope he wasn't majorly charged with anything and received good help[/QUOTE]
better to shock and awe then just cuff him, you dont know if he can pull out anything to kill himself ot the officers.
I want to know a post story on this guy.
Sniper stories like these always amaze me. I've always liked watching stuff on the military channel about snipers and what they do.
I decided to do some research on police snipers and it turns out they're usually a part of SWAT. I was thinking how useful they would have been during the infamous Hollywood shootout that is the reason police now carry AR-15's but since they're a part of SWAT, they wouldn't have been there in time either
Fun fact: The world's most accurate sniper to date is a police sniper from LA.
[QUOTE=draugur;44251992]Fun fact: The world's most accurate sniper to date is a police sniper from LA.[/QUOTE]
Says whom?
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