• UK: Abortion clinics to be allowed advertisment on TV and radio
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[B]Private clinics that charge for pregnancy services including abortions will be able to advertise on television and radio under new rules.[/B] The Broadcast Committee of Advertising Practice (BCAP) said there was [B]no justification for barring clinics offering post-conception advice services[/B]. For-profit pregnancy centres can currently advertise in all media except television and radio. The new rules take effect on 30 April. BCAP said the [B]adverts would be allowed as long as they were not harmful, offensive or misleading[/B]. In a statement, BCAP said existing rules on broadcast advertising would ensure general audiences were be robustly protected from harm or offence once the restrictions were removed. It said it held a full public consultation last year but did not receive any response from the Department for Culture, Media and Sport or the Department of Health. [B] Clinics which do not directly refer women for terminations will have to make that clear in their advertising under the new rules.[/B] The Committee of Advertising Practice (CAP) said this was on strong public health grounds. Spokesman Matt Wilson said: "There is not going to be some sort of free-for-all saying '[B]Come to us to get an abortion[/B]'. "[B]They are not there to promote abortion, they have to promote an array of services[/B]. It is about being responsible, and commercial pro-life pregnancy services will now be able to advertise too." Darinka Aleksic, from the pro-choice group Abortion Rights, said: "[B]Surveys tell us that fewer than half of the UK population know where to turn when they are faced with an unplanned pregnancy - apart from going to their GP - and a lot of women, especially young women, they're not comfortable about talking to their regular GP about this. [/B]"So it's really important that they have access to objective, accurate information about all their options when they're facing unplanned pregnancy and that includes parenting and adoption as well as abortion." However, Conservative MP Nadine Dorries said [B]the move would make having a termination seem "as easy as having your lunch". [/B]"What this is actually going to do is [B]desensitise what abortion is and the seriousness of it,[/B]" she told the Daily Mail."[B]That may be great for articulate, well-educated women who know exactly what they want but the more vulnerable woman who is in emotional turmoil is going to be badly damaged. [/B]"[B]Broadcasters will be making profit through advertising revenue off the back of a service which ends life. It's appalling. [/B]"In 2010, [B]96% of abortions were funded by the NHS[/B], 51% of which were carried out by independent clinics on behalf of the service. [URL]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16663800[/URL]
[quote]However, Conservative MP Nadine Dorries said the move would make having a termination seem "as easy as having your lunch".[/quote] And that is bad how?
[quote]"What this is actually going to do is desensitise what abortion is and the seriousness of it," she told the Daily Mail."That may be great for articulate, well-educated women who know exactly what they want but the more vulnerable woman who is in emotional turmoil is going to be badly damaged.[/quote] She's got a point, although I don't think the effect is going to be so big that you should worry about it.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34325215]And that is bad how?[/QUOTE] Because it would give women control over their bodies. /sarcasm
I don't understand what's wrong with abortion anyways. If a woman gets raped, why should she have to live with having a child from it?
Good, a very positive step. Now mothers-to-be shouldn't have to worry about where to go.
[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;34325227]She's got a point, although I don't think the effect is going to be so big that you should worry about it.[/QUOTE] I don't see her point. Mind pointing it out? [editline]21st January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=FalconKrunch;34325227]She's got a point, although I don't think the effect is going to be so big that you should worry about it.[/QUOTE] I don't see her point. Mind pointing it out?
[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;34325308]I don't understand what's wrong with abortion anyways. If a woman gets raped, why should she have to live with having a child from it?[/QUOTE] Because not everyone thinks like that.
So, are they going to advertise daily specials, too? "Buy one abortion, get two free!"
[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;34325308]I don't understand what's wrong with abortion anyways. If a woman gets raped, why should she have to live with having a child from it?[/QUOTE] Because the fetus is aliiiive!!1!!1!11 \sarcasm
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;34325343]So, are they going to advertise daily specials, too? "Buy one abortion, get two free!"[/QUOTE] If they had twins, it would be handy.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;34325338]Because not everyone thinks like that.[/QUOTE] Yeah, you're right... There are people who think any woman who gets raped for any reason "was asking for it". Ugh. (I know there's more reasons then that but that's the biggest one that bothers me.)
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34325324]I don't see her point. Mind pointing it out? [/QUOTE] [quote]""That may be great for articulate, well-educated women who know exactly what they want but the more vulnerable woman who is in emotional turmoil is going to be badly damaged."[/quote] I'd word it differently, but a women who is in "emotional turmoil" might make a decision based on what she sees on TV and then she might regret it later.
[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;34325308]I don't understand what's wrong with abortion anyways. If a woman gets raped, why should she have to live with having a child from it?[/QUOTE] I don't understand the deal at all. If the woman is pregnant but doesn't want the child, why should she?
Now we can go to the Clinic before popping a few tablets of Soma and heading to the Feelies.
[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;34325388]I'd word it differently, but a women who is in "emotional turmoil" might make a decision based on what she sees on TV and then she might regret it later.[/QUOTE] While that makes sense, that is also stupid because many services should be hidden because they can result in stupid mistakes. Love and relation should be not shown on tv at all, you could regret it later.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34325414]While that makes sense, that is also stupid because many services should be hidden because they can result in stupid mistakes. Love and relation should be not shown on tv at all, you could regret it later.[/QUOTE] I think killing a potential person is a bit different then breaking your heart. I'm all for legal abortion and whatnot, but I don't think someone should do this on a rash decision, you can always try and stitch a relationship back together after a mistake, you can't stitch a fetus back together.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34325396]I don't understand the deal at all. If the woman is pregnant but doesn't want the child, why should she?[/QUOTE] The argument on the other side (I believe) is that even if a woman was raped, the child shouldn't have to pay for it. Likewise pro life people believe that women shouldn't be nonchalant about it, where they might use it in place of their 'lack of thinking ahead'.
[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;34325492]you can't stitch a fetus back together.[/QUOTE] Yeah its not like you can just have another baby or anything. Clearly your fetus has a unique personality that would be missed.
Have no problem with this.
[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;34325492]I think killing a potential person is a bit different then breaking your heart. I'm all for legal abortion and whatnot, but I don't think someone should do this on a rash decision, you can always try and stitch a relationship back together after a mistake, you can't stitch a fetus back together.[/QUOTE] Potential person is like potential profit. It could be or it could not be. As long as it's only potential, do whatever you want. It's your body, do whatever you feel is right. The fetus is not a person yet so you're not infringing on anyone's rights. [editline]21st January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=DoctorSalt;34325567]The argument on the other side (I believe) is that even if a woman was raped, the child shouldn't have to pay for it.[/QUOTE] I find this very ironic. If the child doesn't have to pay for it, then maybe it's better so it's not born and doesn't live a miserable life which it most likely will being a rape child and everything.
baby killers
[QUOTE=matt.ant;34325171]However, Conservative MP Nadine Dorries said the move would make having a termination seem "as easy as having your lunch"[/QUOTE] If it's an early termination, it pretty much is. [editline]21st January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=FalconKrunch;34325492]I think killing a potential person is a bit different then breaking your heart. I'm all for legal abortion and whatnot, but I don't think someone should do this on a rash decision, you can always try and stitch a relationship back together after a mistake,[B] you can't stitch a fetus back together[/B].[/QUOTE] well that just not true
I hope the adverts aren't really disgusting or condescending, I wouldn't want to be talked down to or have to stop eating because of it :v:
[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;34325492]I think killing a potential person is a bit different then breaking your heart. I'm all for legal abortion and whatnot, but I don't think someone should do this on a rash decision, you can always try and stitch a relationship back together after a mistake, you can't stitch a fetus back together.[/QUOTE] every time you don't rape a women and keep her in your basement until she has her baby to make sure she doesn't get an abortion you are killing a potential person [B]YOU MONSTER![/B] [editline]21st January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;34325807]I hope the adverts aren't really disgusting or condescending, I wouldn't want to be talked down to or have to stop eating because of it :v:[/QUOTE] Why would they make it seem gross if they're selling it? Did you think "Supersize Me" was a McDonalds commercial?
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34325215]And that is bad how?[/QUOTE] conservative mps having lunch is the only thing they actually do
[QUOTE=The golden;34325835]I don't even know why we need to discuss this. Men should be 100% barred from debating abortion or making any laws about it in any way, shape, or form. It has NOTHING to do with them and doesn't affect them in any way. It is a practice which affects women and women only. It is their body and their child. It should be 100% their choice.[/QUOTE] I think it would affect you if it was your child. You can't stop the abortion but you're allowed an opinion
[QUOTE=matt.ant;34325911]I think it would affect you if it was your child. You can't stop the abortion but you're allowed an opinion[/QUOTE] The only time a man has any sort of right to enter into any abortion argument, it is when they impregnate their girlfriend or wife and are experiencing it firsthand. No man should legislate on abortion either pro-choice or pro-life because it is not a man's issue.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34325396]I don't understand the deal at all. If the woman is pregnant but doesn't want the child, why should she?[/QUOTE] The idea among Christians is generally that when a woman gets raped that's terrible and when she gets pregnant from the rape that's terrible as well but the child has rights too.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;34326020]The idea among Christians is generally that when a woman gets raped that's terrible and when she gets pregnant from the rape that's terrible as well but the child has rights too.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but then you enter the Violinist argument. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violinist_(thought_experiment)[/url]
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