• Trump Chooses Lt Gen H.R. McMaster as National Security Adviser
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[QUOTE]President Trump picked Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, a widely respected military strategist, as his new national security adviser on Monday, calling him “a man of tremendous talent and tremendous experience.” Mr. Trump made the announcement at his Mar-a-Lago getaway in Palm Beach, Fla., where he has been interviewing candidates to replace Michael T. Flynn, [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/13/us/politics/donald-trump-national-security-adviser-michael-flynn.html?_r=0"]who was forced out[/URL] after withholding information from Vice President Mike Pence about a call with Russia’s ambassador. The choice continued Mr. Trump’s reliance on high-ranking military officers to advise him on national security. Mr. Flynn was a retired three-star general and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis is a retired four-star general. His first choice to replace Mr. Flynn, who turned the job down, and two other finalists were current or former senior officers as well. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]General McMaster is seen as one of the Army’s leading intellectuals, first making a name for himself with a searing critique of the Joint Chiefs of Staff for their performance during the Vietnam War and later criticizing the way President George W. Bush’s administration went to war in Iraq. As a commander, he was credited with demonstrating how a different counterterrorism strategy could defeat insurgents in Iraq, providing the basis for the change in approach that Gen. David H. Petraeus adopted to shift momentum in a war that the United States was on the verge of losing. General McMaster’s challenge now will be to take over a rattled and demoralized National Security Council apparatus that bristled at Mr. Flynn’s leadership and remains uncertain about its place in the White House given the foreign policy interests of Stephen K. Bannon, the former Breitbart News chairman who is the president’s chief strategist. [/QUOTE] [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/20/us/politics/mcmaster-national-security-adviser-trump.html[/URL] A very interesting choice considering McMaster has made a name for himself by critcizing upper leadership. [video=youtube;AA4vTa-j_d8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA4vTa-j_d8[/video] [video=youtube;dQjOlUclIAs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjOlUclIAs[/video] He was also a tank troop commander in the Battle of 73 Easting during the Gulf War where his 12 M1A1 Abrams tanks destroyed 28 Iraqi tanks, 16 personnel carriers and 30 trucks in 23 minutes with no American losses
I haven't really been paying attention that much, but I'm noticing a lot of his choices have military background, unless that's really common?
I've read Dereliction of Duty and it is absolutely [I][B]scathing [/B][/I]in it's criticism of the civilian and military leadership in the days before and during the Vietnam War. As far as I can tell this is an excellent choice. His wiki page lists a controversy which makes it seem like he might have been passed up for promotion on suspicious circumstances. I can't find a single bad word said about him anywhere. He might even be a better pick than Mattis.
Trump is buddying up HARD with the military. Honestly not a good sign.
[QUOTE=Radical_ed;51850629]Trump is buddying up HARD with the military. Honestly not a good sign.[/QUOTE] He enjoys riding that hard military cock.
[QUOTE]Mr. Trump made the announcement at his Mar-a-Lago getaway in Palm Beach, Fla.[/QUOTE] He's there again? What a joke.
[QUOTE=Radical_ed;51850629]Trump is buddying up HARD with the military. Honestly not a good sign.[/QUOTE] Well he IS the commander in chief so it comes with the job. Not to mention the nukes.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51850680]You dont see the contrast to the previous presidents? Obama's NSA was a diplomat.[/QUOTE] And why does it matter that Obama's NSA came from a civilian background and Trump's military?
[QUOTE=chernisreal?;51850636]He enjoys riding that hard military cock.[/QUOTE] The correct term is the green weenie.
tbf the military picks are trump's only good ones and they have sworn to protect the constitution so you know they'll hold him accountable for shit
[QUOTE=IFawDown;51850690]And why does it matter that Obama's NSA came from a civilian background and Trump's military?[/QUOTE] Btw I just looked it up and Obama's first NSA appointment was Jim Jones, who was a Marine Corps General. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_L._Jones[/url]
[QUOTE=PaperBurrito;51850745]tbf the military picks are trump's only good ones and they have sworn to protect the constitution so you know they'll hold him accountable for shit[/QUOTE] funny All the conservatives I've talked to said all of them were excellent picks and they've all been smeared.
Well at least he's a better choice than Flynn.
[QUOTE=ChicagoMobster;51850623]I haven't really been paying attention that much, but I'm noticing a lot of his choices have military background, unless that's really common?[/QUOTE] trump likes strong men. its not unusual to have military men in these positions, but it is totally unusual to have all military men in these positions
[QUOTE=Radical_ed;51850629]Trump is buddying up HARD with the military. Honestly not a good sign.[/QUOTE] Trump is assigning people with strong wills to those positions. He won't get anything bad by them.
[QUOTE=Radical_ed;51850629]Trump is buddying up HARD with the military. Honestly not a good sign.[/QUOTE] Anyone who believes or suggests that Trump is preparing for a military coup of [I]any[/I] sort is either as naive or shortsighted as people typically accuse Trump of being. The military figures he has appointed are the exact sort that would be overtly and emphatically against a coup, junta, or military enfranchisement of any sort of shape. They are almost comically patriotic in their characters and histories, to the extent that it looks less like Trump is appointing Goering and Goebbels, and more like he's appointing Nick Fury and Captain America. We must remember that before Michael Flynn was suddenly cast as a Russian dupe, people were lauding his free-wheeling, loose cannon attitudes as a good sign that he would be break from the heavy handed, authoritarian mindset that Trump seems to project. It's only afterwards that suddenly all of his dismissal of authority and discipline have suddenly made him in to Cobra Commander.
[QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;51850879]Anyone who believes or suggests that Trump is preparing for a military coup of [I]any[/I] sort is either as naive or shortsighted as people typically accuse Trump of being. The military figures he has appointed are the exact sort that would be overtly and emphatically against a coup, junta, or military enfranchisement of any sort of shape. They are almost comically patriotic in their characters and histories, to the extent that it looks less like Trump is appointing Goering and Goebbels, and more like he's appointing Nick Fury and Captain America. We must remember that before Michael Flynn was suddenly cast as a Russian dupe, people were lauding his free-wheeling, loose cannon attitudes as a good sign that he would be break from the heavy handed, authoritarian mindset that Trump seems to project. It's only afterwards that suddenly all of his [b]dismissal of authority and discipline[/b] have suddenly made him in to Cobra Commander.[/QUOTE] And also his light treason.
hey i'm related to him! hope he does well in this terrible office
[QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;51850879]Anyone who believes or suggests that Trump is preparing for a military coup of [I]any[/I] sort is either as naive or shortsighted as people typically accuse Trump of being. The military figures he has appointed are the exact sort that would be overtly and emphatically against a coup, junta, or military enfranchisement of any sort of shape. They are almost comically patriotic in their characters and histories, to the extent that it looks less like Trump is appointing Goering and Goebbels, and more like he's appointing Nick Fury and Captain America. We must remember that before Michael Flynn was suddenly cast as a Russian dupe, people were lauding his free-wheeling, loose cannon attitudes as a good sign that he would be break from the heavy handed, authoritarian mindset that Trump seems to project. It's only afterwards that suddenly all of his dismissal of authority and discipline have suddenly made him in to Cobra Commander.[/QUOTE] a military coup against who? he's already the president :v:
[QUOTE=Radical_ed;51850629]Trump is buddying up HARD with the military. Honestly not a good sign.[/QUOTE] Actually, honestly, it really is a good sign. They're some of the [I]only[/I] people in his cabinet who are educated and knowledgeable enough about American civic values to understand how Trump threatens them. Mattis has vocally spoken out against Trump's travel ban and personally assembled a list of military interpreters to admit into the US while it was active. Mattis is an incredibly rational and capable person, highly educated, and genuinely intellectual. If you think Trump has [I]any[/I] sway over decorated, intelligent, demonstrably capable military leaders who have dedicated their entire lives to the country, you're kidding yourself. Also, it's important to note that these guys are not active duty. They can't be in the military and his cabinet at the same time. They're ex-military, so they don't have any official sway into use of the military. Considering how rigid and orderly the military (supposedly) is, I doubt that you'd see people breaking the chain of command to listen to a civilian's orders, no matter how prestigious they are.
HR McMaster is an outstanding choice. He was a brilliant commander and strategist. Extremely intelligent.
[QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;51850879] We must remember that before Michael Flynn was suddenly cast as a Russian dupe, people were lauding his free-wheeling, loose cannon attitudes as a good sign that he would be break from the heavy handed, authoritarian mindset that Trump seems to project. It's only afterwards that suddenly all of his dismissal of authority and discipline have suddenly made him in to Cobra Commander.[/QUOTE] This is an interesting interpretation of the events surrounding Flynn.
[QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;51850879] We must remember that before Michael Flynn was suddenly cast as a Russian dupe, people were lauding his free-wheeling, loose cannon attitudes as a good sign that he would be break from the heavy handed, authoritarian mindset that Trump seems to project. It's only afterwards that suddenly all of his dismissal of authority and discipline have suddenly made him in to Cobra Commander.[/QUOTE] what reality are you living in where anyone did this
I definitely always thought Michael Flynn was a nutbar.
[QUOTE=Radical_ed;51850629]Trump is buddying up HARD with the military. Honestly not a good sign.[/QUOTE] it's a good sign because you generally have to be pretty damn educated to get stars. it's not like his picks are redneck highschool dropouts even the most incompetent blithering idiot of a general is probably better than the gutter trash retards trump has for his other picks as long as his military picks fill military roles there isn't much of a problem [editline]20th February 2017[/editline] flynn was a bit batshit but he wasn't any more batshit than trump's other picks
[QUOTE=Jund;51851540]it's a good sign because you generally have to be pretty damn educated to get stars. it's not like his picks are redneck highschool dropouts even the most incompetent blithering idiot of a general is probably better than the gutter trash retards trump has for his other picks as long as his military picks fill military roles there isn't much of a problem [editline]20th February 2017[/editline] flynn was a bit batshit but he wasn't any more batshit than trump's other picks[/QUOTE] He kinda was, but then again a lot of people in conservatives believe that Europe is being islamizied and Muslims were trying to take over.
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;51851594]He kinda was, but then again a lot of people in conservatives believe that Europe is being islamizied and Muslims were trying to take over.[/QUOTE] flynn was raised and identifies as a democrat but flip flopped on a lot of issues once he got the NSA pick trump picked mattis because he loved hardass military heroes (as republicans are wont to do) but that backfired since mattis doesn't take any of trump's bullshit either, being VERY vocally pro-NATO and anti-torture/islamophobia so trump probably picked flynn knowing he would kiss his ass trying to play the politic game
[QUOTE=SKEEA;51851392]HR McMaster is an outstanding choice. He was a brilliant commander and strategist. Extremely intelligent.[/QUOTE] Badass too. Combat Action Badge, Airborne Badge, Ranger tab, ribbons stacked 9-high, overseas service stripes... Guy's a hard-charger.
man, all of these military picks have cool-ass names first General "Mad Dog" Mattis, now Lieutenant General McMaster
[QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;51850879]We must remember that before Michael Flynn was suddenly cast as a Russian dupe, people were lauding his free-wheeling, loose cannon attitudes as a good sign that he would be break from the heavy handed, authoritarian mindset that Trump seems to project. It's only afterwards that suddenly all of his dismissal of authority and discipline have suddenly made him in to Cobra Commander.[/QUOTE] I think you're getting Gen. Flynn and Gen. Mattis mixed up. Everyone applauded his selection of General Mattis, but his pick of General Flynn was criticized. Flynn was extremely pro-Trump during the campaign and even gave speeches at some of his rallies. Mattis's down-to-business attitude mixed with proper patriotism has lead to him challenging Trump on several issues.
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