• "I'M TELLING YOU IRAN WILL GET NUKES" - Iran backs out of a nuclear deal
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[IMG]http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/71037000/jpg/_71037868_71037863.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]A senior US official reportedly said the deal was "too tough" for the Iranians US Secretary of State John Kerry has said Iran backed out of a deal on its nuclear programme during talks with world powers in Geneva on Saturday. Amid reports that France's reservations scuppered an agreement, Mr Kerry told reporters in Abu Dhabi: "The French signed off on it, we signed off on it." Iran had been unable to accept the deal "at that particular moment", he added. Mr Kerry said he hoped in the next few months they could "find an agreement that meets everyone's standards". Representatives from Iran and the so-called P5+1 - the US, UK, France, Russia and China plus Germany - will meet again on 20 November. [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24895911[/url]
[URL="http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/11/us-iran-minister-idUSBRE9A90GB20131111"]The Iranian deputy Industrial minister was shot yesterday as well.[/URL] They haven't ruled out nukes, but it's possible the offer presented was either too restrictive (making it almost prohibitive to pursue their alleged peaceful nuclear program) or too good to be true (aka they smell a rat). Considering how close they were to an agreement before France went absolutely bonkers for some reason, the Iranians (and the French after their little fracas at the last meeting) have been increasingly tight lipped about what is going on regarding these deals.
For fuck's sake, can't we just allow Iran to get on with their nuclear program? Even if they do get nukes, that's a deterrent for Israel.
[QUOTE=maxumym;42827633]For fuck's sake, can't we just allow Iran to get on with their nuclear program? Even if they do get nukes, that's a deterrent for Israel.[/QUOTE] yes lets allow nukes to be in the hands of an unstable faux-democratic nation with extremists comprising most of its government what could possibly go wrong but i guess we can ignore that since they're against israel and stuff so it's okay
[QUOTE=Melnek;42827952]yes lets allow nukes to be in the hands of an unstable faux-democratic nation with extremists comprising most of its government what could possibly go wrong but i guess we can ignore that since they're against israel and stuff so it's okay[/QUOTE] Yeah we should let Israel have them instead, a nation that literally every second day is discussing how they should flatten Iranian facilities and is illegally occupying Palestinian land. Let's get this fucking started, shit storm on the horizon rolling in.
Don't they just want nuclear power stations? From what I can remember, a nuclear bomb and a nuclear power station are exactly the same, only the power station manages the release of breakdown so the shit doesn't cause a chain reaction that would level the place. WHo cares if they got nukes, the russians and chinese never nuked us, they'll be fineeeee.
[QUOTE=Melnek;42827952]yes lets allow nukes to be in the hands of an unstable faux-democratic nation with extremists comprising most of its government what could possibly go wrong [/QUOTE] Nice, you described Israel well!
[QUOTE=Melnek;42827952]yes lets allow nukes to be in the hands of an unstable faux-democratic nation with extremists comprising most of its government what could possibly go wrong but i guess we can ignore that since they're against israel and stuff so it's okay[/QUOTE] The hypocrisy of your post is incredible.
[QUOTE=maxumym;42827633]For fuck's sake, can't we just allow Iran to get on with their nuclear program? Even if they do get nukes, that's a deterrent for Israel.[/QUOTE] Theoretically, if Israel and Iran get into a nuclear exchange, Israel will also fire nukes at Berlin, Moscow, and other targets throughout Europe and the Middle East in an attempt to trigger global nuclear annihilation.
[QUOTE=Melnek;42827952]yes lets allow nukes to be in the hands of an unstable faux-democratic nation with extremists comprising most of its government what could possibly go wrong but i guess we can ignore that since they're against israel and stuff so it's okay[/QUOTE] it's funny because you're from Israel
Let them have 'em. Realistically, I doubt anyone would use them in this day and age. Not even North Korea does and they're poop flinging crazy.
[QUOTE=Melnek;42827952]yes lets allow nukes to be in the hands of an unstable faux-democratic nation with extremists comprising most of its government what could possibly go wrong[/QUOTE] Oh yes, it's not like that's ever happened bef- [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/V8dYFJ9.png[/IMG] ...Oh.
[QUOTE=Riller;42828173]Oh yes, it's not like that's ever happened bef- [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/V8dYFJ9.png[/IMG] ...Oh.[/QUOTE] Yes, because India fits right in as "an unstable faux-democratic nation with extremists comprising most of its government" Unaware we had extremists comprising most of my government. Huh. :v:
[QUOTE=snookypookums;42828276]Yes, because India fits right in as "an unstable faux-democratic nation with extremists comprising most of its government" Unaware we had extremists comprising most of my government. Huh. :v:[/QUOTE] Your curry counts as a biological weapon :v: [sp]Even though it's tasty as fuck[/sp]
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY[/url] shits about to get hot.
Israel is pretty much the kid who always pisses in the sandbox.
[QUOTE=snookypookums;42828276]Yes, because India fits right in as "an unstable faux-democratic nation with extremists comprising most of its government" Unaware we had extremists comprising most of my government. Huh. :v:[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;k5hWWe-ts2s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5hWWe-ts2s[/video]
[QUOTE=Melnek;42827952]yes lets allow nukes to be in the hands of an unstable faux-democratic nation with extremists comprising most of its government what could possibly go wrong but i guess we can ignore that since they're against israel and stuff so it's okay[/QUOTE] No nation, regardless of how despotic or dictatorial they might be, would EVER threaten their own sovereignty so much as they would using nuclear weapons in this day and age. I honestly think we should offer to have researchers in residence helping Iran with nuclear power and such.
[QUOTE=Melnek;42827952]yes lets allow nukes to be in the hands of an unstable faux-democratic nation with extremists comprising most of its government what could possibly go wrong but i guess we can ignore that since they're against israel and stuff so it's okay[/QUOTE] Sorry I just have to laugh that the only two people agreeing to this post is 1) another guy from Israel and 2) a guy with the title "I'm a piece of shit jingoistic American"
[QUOTE=Melnek;42827952]yes lets allow nukes to be in the hands of an unstable faux-democratic nation with extremists comprising most of its government what could possibly go wrong but i guess we can ignore that since they're against israel and stuff so it's okay[/QUOTE] Haha, everyone hates you. More than they hate us. And that's.. very very sad.
[QUOTE=Melnek;42827952]yes lets allow nukes to be in the hands of an unstable faux-democratic nation with extremists comprising most of its government what could possibly go wrong but i guess we can ignore that since they're against israel and stuff so it's okay[/QUOTE] People like you are the reason we don't mind iran going nuclear :v:
[QUOTE=US government when turning a blind eye on Israel nuke]yes lets allow nukes to be in the hands of an unstable faux-democratic nation with extremists comprising most of its government what could possibly go wrong but i guess we can ignore that since they're against [i]Iran[/i] and stuff so it's okay[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Irkalla;42828447]No nation, regardless of how despotic or dictatorial they might be, would EVER threaten their own sovereignty so much as they would using nuclear weapons in this day and age. I honestly think we should offer to have researchers in residence helping Iran with nuclear power and such.[/QUOTE] nobody is worried about the iranian government launching anything, it's about the shaky and uncertain political environment they are being developed in. nobody knows for sure if a scenario should occur where a terrorist organization obtains a small nuclear weapon through ties in the already corrupted iranian government. that's the main concern. and who even knows with those guys, maybe it'll be used as nothing more than a card to hold over us, or maybe some psychopath will come along and decide to actually use the thing because this has been dragging on for too long. iran is about as democratic and open as russia claims itself to be (read: not at all), and allowing them unregulated and free enrichment of materials used both for nuclear power and nuclear weapons is flat out careless and extremely dangerous. this conflict with the arab world is decades old, it's full of bitter, blind hatred on both sides. throwing more weapons into the fray is not the answer. you really think once iran gets hold of a nuclear weapon israel will suddenly settle down? you think it will somehow shift the balance of power in the middle east? we're talking about israel here. the nation that has been largely at war for the past 70 years since its foundation and 'lost' only a handful out of the dozens of conflicts it has been involved in. israel is a resourceful, determined and zealous nation with a massive military complex to show for it and if the israeli government actually sensed a threat to its regional supremacy that threat would have been neutralized a long time ago. trust me when i tell you iran getting a nuke will achieve nothing but add more fuel to the already fuckhuge fire.
[QUOTE=Melnek;42828783]nobody is worried about the iranian government launching anything, it's about the shaky and uncertain political environment they are being developed in. nobody knows for sure if a scenario should occur where a terrorist organization obtains a small nuclear weapon through ties in the already corrupted iranian government. that's the main concern. and who even knows with those guys, maybe it'll be used as nothing more than a card to hold over us, or maybe some psychopath will come along and decide to actually use the thing because this has been dragging on for too long. iran is about as democratic and open as russia claims itself to be (read: not at all), and allowing them unregulated and free enrichment of materials used both for nuclear power and nuclear weapons is flat out careless and extremely dangerous. this conflict with the arab world is decades old, it's full of bitter, blind hatred on both sides. throwing more weapons into the fray is not the answer. you really think once iran gets hold of a nuclear weapon israel will suddenly settle down? you think it will somehow shift the balance of power in the middle east? we're talking about israel here. the nation that has been largely at war for the past 70 years since its foundation and 'lost' only a handful out of the dozens of conflicts it has been involved in. israel is a resourceful, determined and zealous nation with a massive military complex to show for it and if the israeli government actually sensed a threat to its regional supremacy that threat would have been neutralized a long time ago. trust me when i tell you iran getting a nuke will achieve nothing but add more fuel to the already fuckhuge fire.[/QUOTE] Yes, let's only allow the jewish oppressors to have nukes. Seems fair to me!
[QUOTE=Melnek;42827952]yes lets allow nukes to be in the hands of an unstable faux-democratic nation with extremists comprising most of its government what could possibly go wrong but i guess we can ignore that since they're against israel and stuff so it's okay[/QUOTE] yeah I guess we can also ignore the maltreating regime that's going on in Palestine, just because Iran wants to do a nuclear program it doesn't mean that it will nuke you. You guys are so scared jees, calm your titties down.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42828137]Theoretically, if Israel and Iran get into a nuclear exchange, Israel will also fire nukes at Berlin, Moscow, and other targets throughout Europe and the Middle East in an attempt to trigger global nuclear annihilation.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine[/url] personally i find it a bit unlikely, because if israel truly planned something like that, the US with its massive spying would probably be aware of it too.
[QUOTE=Melnek;42828783]nobody is worried about the iranian government launching anything, it's about the shaky and uncertain political environment they are being developed in. nobody knows for sure if a scenario should occur where a terrorist organization obtains a small nuclear weapon through ties in the already corrupted iranian government. that's the main concern. and who even knows with those guys, maybe it'll be used as nothing more than a card to hold over us, or maybe some psychopath will come along and decide to actually use the thing because this has been dragging on for too long. iran is about as democratic and open as russia claims itself to be (read: not at all), and allowing them unregulated and free enrichment of materials used both for nuclear power and nuclear weapons is flat out careless and extremely dangerous. this conflict with the arab world is decades old, it's full of bitter, blind hatred on both sides. throwing more weapons into the fray is not the answer. you really think once iran gets hold of a nuclear weapon israel will suddenly settle down? you think it will somehow shift the balance of power in the middle east? we're talking about israel here. the nation that has been largely at war for the past 70 years since its foundation and 'lost' only a handful out of the dozens of conflicts it has been involved in. israel is a resourceful, determined and zealous nation with a massive military complex to show for it and if the israeli government actually sensed a threat to its regional supremacy that threat would have been neutralized a long time ago. trust me when i tell you iran getting a nuke will achieve nothing but add more fuel to the already fuckhuge fire.[/QUOTE] The fire started and fanned daily by Israel. Your country shouldn't have access to nuclear materials either, frankly, in any way shape or form. I trust Israel about as much as I trust Iran, because while Iran talked a lot of shit during Ahmadinejad's reign, Israel actively persecutes minorities and showcases a mentality of "If you're not with us, you're fucking anti-semitic Nazis, now look away while we uproot and kill innocent people. We're not racist it's you guys!" Don't bother trying to inject your propaganda fueled nonsense here, because it only illustrates how brainwashed you are about your nation's supposed innocence and superiority.
[QUOTE=maxumym;42827633]For fuck's sake, can't we just allow Iran to get on with their nuclear program? Even if they do get nukes, that's a deterrent for Israel.[/QUOTE] The US would never allow Israel to be threatened or put on an equal playing field.
I don't think anyone expected the talks to reach a deal so soon. At least there [I]is[/I] talking taking place.
[QUOTE=snookypookums;42828276]Yes, because India fits right in as "an unstable faux-democratic nation with extremists comprising most of its government" Unaware we had extremists comprising most of my government. Huh. :v:[/QUOTE] India is an oligarchy ran by several families, among them being the Ghandi's lol. [editline]11th November 2013[/editline] By the way. Israel has threatened to use Nuclear bombs against nations not even pertaining to them, threatening the USA with them. I'm not fucking kidding. [quote]In the 1973 Yom Kippur War, Arab forces were overwhelming Israeli forces and Prime Minister Golda Meir authorized a nuclear alert and ordered 13 atomic bombs be readied for use by missiles and aircraft. [b]The Israeli Ambassador warned President Nixon of “very serious conclusions" if the United States did not airlift supplies.[/b] Nixon complied. This is seen by some commentators on the subject as the first threat of the use of the Samson Option[/quote] [editline]11th November 2013[/editline] Also, The Samson option, which is Israels Nuclear strategy, focuses on destroying themselves, and everyone in the world, if they are threatened. They have openly admitted to having nukes aimed at most every European capital. [editline]11th November 2013[/editline] They pretty much flat out threaten using WMD's if the USA doesn't cooperate with them.
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