Mueller Expands Probe to Trump Business Transactions
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The U.S. special counsel investigating possible ties between the Donald Trump campaign and Russia in last year’s election is examining a broad range of transactions involving Trump’s businesses as well as those of his associates, according to a person familiar with the probe.
The president told the New York Times on Wednesday that any digging into matters beyond Russia would be out of bounds. Trump’s businesses have involved Russians for years, making the boundaries fuzzy so Special Counsel Robert Mueller appears to be taking a wide-angle approach to his two-month-old probe.
FBI investigators and others are looking at Russian purchases of apartments in Trump buildings, Trump’s involvement in a controversial SoHo development with Russian associates, the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow and Trump’s sale of a Florida mansion to a Russian oligarch in 2008, the person said.
John Dowd, one of Trump’s lawyers, said on Thursday he was unaware of this element of the investigation. "Those transactions are in my view well beyond the mandate of the Special counsel; are unrelated to the election of 2016 or any alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia and most importantly, are well beyond any Statute of Limitation imposed by the United States Code," he wrote in an email.
Agents are also interested in dealings with the Bank of Cyprus, where Wilbur Ross served as vice chairman before he became commerce secretary. The are also examining the efforts of Jared Kushner, the President’s son-in-law and White House aide, to secure financing for some of his family’s real estate properties. The information was provided by someone familiar with the developing inquiry but not authorized to speak publicly.
The roots of Mueller’s follow-the-money investigation lie in a wide-ranging money laundering probe launched by then-Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara last year, according to the person.
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Trump: don't go investigating my personal businesses and transactions. That's a red line.
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So how did threatening Mueller work for you, Donny? :v:
[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;52489063]So how did threatening Mueller work for you, Donny? :v:[/QUOTE]
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Pretty much sums it up.
after he specifically told them not to? what [I]is[/I] their fascination with Trump's forbidden business transactions of mystery!?
At this point I'm just waiting for the inevitable trump-putin sex tape to be leaked.
[quote]John Dowd, one of Trump’s lawyers, said on Thursday he was unaware of this element of the investigation. "Those transactions are in my view well beyond the mandate of the Special counsel; are unrelated to the election of 2016 or any alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia and most importantly, are well beyond any Statute of Limitation imposed by the United States Code," he wrote in an email.[/quote]
How does this schmuck figure that investigating business ties and transactions to powerful Russian figures is somehow unrelated to the broader investigation? Trump is being accused of illegally colluding with the Russian government to undermine our democratic processes. The movement of money between his organizations and organizations and people linked with the Russian government is one potential avenue for funds to have been to have been channeled between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. That's about as [I]related[/I] as you can possibly get.
Trump to only give future interviews during Mueller's lunch break so that he can insist he's not under investigation at this time
[QUOTE=Sky King;52489231]At this point I'm just waiting for the inevitable trump-putin sex tape to be leaked.[/QUOTE]
Then Trump starts either yelling about A, how it isn't gay because the balls didn't touch, B, how it isn't gay because he said 'no homo' or C, seriously guys, who hasn't had sex with a country's leader and Hillary/Obama is somehow responsible for this.
"the real red line is if Mueller starts looking into my secret Moscow bank accounts, and any transactions of between $2.5 million and $5 million with the Russian company Rosneft which took place in those accounts between November 2015 and January 2016. That would really be a step too far"
[QUOTE=Bob The Knob;52489347]"the real red line is if Mueller starts looking into my secret Moscow bank accounts, and any transactions of between $2.5 million and $5 million with the Russian company Rosneft which took place in those accounts between November 2015 and January 2016. That would really be a step too far"[/QUOTE]
"you wut m8?"
-mueller
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52489247]Then Trump starts either yelling about A, how it isn't gay because the balls didn't touch, B, how it isn't gay because he said 'no homo' or C, seriously guys, who hasn't had sex with a country's leader and Hillary/Obama is somehow responsible for this.[/QUOTE]
"Obama should have stopped me from sucking Putin's dick, if it was so sinister!"
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I'm sure Mueller is pissing himself.
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What I wanna know is what was going through his mind when he did that. If there's a top 100,000 list of 'Things to never do to your investigators while being investigated' I'm pretty confident threatening them is in the top 10 at least.
[QUOTE=Ta16;52489709]What I wanna know is what was going through his mind when he did that. If there's a top 100,000 list of 'Things to never do to your investigators while being investigated' I'm pretty confident threatening them is in the top 10 at least.[/QUOTE]
at first i thought it was like "boy i sure hope you don't investigate my CLEARLY FRAUDULENT transactions instead of this Russia angle :wink:" but it's starting to look like he legitimately didn't want Mueller investigating this lol
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;52487181]Keep threatening muller see how that goes for you.[/QUOTE]
:v:
He's angling to get rid of him. He also slammed AG Sessions. Here's my prediction:
Senate recess in August
Fire/Force Sessions to step down
Jam through new AG during recess
New AG fires Mueller for starting personal financial investigation that is "irrelevant" and a "waste of taxpayer dollars"
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;52490345]Then congress immediately reappoints Mueller and expands the scope of their inquiries. Firing Mueller would be the biggest waste of time in Washington, and congress has made that fairly clear.[/QUOTE]
I didn't say it would be smart. :v: In fact, I dare him to do it. We'd be rid of him faster.
Trump's really stuck between a rock and a hard place right now, either he pulls some shenanigans to get Mueller fired, which as mentioned before would be utterly futile and almost certainly pin obstruction charges on him, or he lets Mueller keep digging and uncover whatever it is Trump doesn't want him to find.
Gonna be an interesting couple of months.
Though I'm still half expecting that all Mueller finds is that Trump isn't as rich as he says he is, maybe some tax dodging, and that Trump managed to mix himself up in a massive collusion investigation just because of his petty insecurity.
[QUOTE=Cyan_Husky;52490331]He's angling to get rid of him. He also slammed AG Sessions. Here's my prediction:
Senate recess in August
Fire/Force Sessions to step down
Jam through new AG during recess
New AG fires Mueller for starting personal financial investigation that is "irrelevant" and a "waste of taxpayer dollars"[/QUOTE]
you probably can't recess appoint an AG, anyways he'd have to get rid of rosenstein first because he's the one who appointed meuller
[QUOTE=Sableye;52490508]you probably can't recess appoint an AG, anyways he'd have to get rid of rosenstein first because he's the one who appointed meuller[/QUOTE]
Rosenstein is still only deputy AG. If Trump appoints a new AG, they're Rosenstein's boss, and assuming they have no reason to recuse themselves they can dismiss Mueller and they outrank Rosenstein so what's he gonna do?
But Congress has already warned that this would be futile because they'd just reappoint him with even more power.
I wonder how much of his base would fall away if he fired Mueller? Are Trump supporters actually stupid enough to defend such a thing? Certainly not all of them right?
[QUOTE]the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow and Trump’s sale of a Florida mansion to a Russian oligarch in 2008 ... are well beyond any Statute of Limitation imposed by the United States Code[/QUOTE]
Really? I wouldn't think a whopping four years, let alone nine, was beyond the statute of limitations for anything.
This was bound to happen. Special investigators have a habit of nosing around in subjects only tangentially related to their assigned task. The President brought this on himself.
[QUOTE=Chonch;52490705]This was bound to happen. Special investigators have a habit of nosing around in subjects only tangentially related to their assigned task. The President brought this on himself.[/QUOTE]
How do you feel about Trump saying he shouldn't have appointed Sessions?
[QUOTE=srobins;52490596]I wonder how much of his base would fall away if he fired Mueller? Are Trump supporters actually stupid enough to defend such a thing? Certainly not all of them right?[/QUOTE]
You underestimate their ability to warp reality to fit their views
[QUOTE=joshuadim;52490849]You underestimate their ability to warp reality to fit their views[/QUOTE]
"it's all just a witch-hunt anyways, Mueller was probably in on it"
[QUOTE=Alice3173;52490639]Really? I wouldn't think a whopping four years, let alone nine, was beyond the statute of limitations for anything.[/QUOTE]
it doesn't even matter though, congressional impeachment proceedings aren't court cases, he just has to demonstrate that trump did something that was criminal and if congress decides it was then that's enough.
his lawyers are either underestimating the extent of congress's power here, or again trying to deflect to some technicality like they did with Don Jr.
[QUOTE=srobins;52490596]I wonder how much of his base would fall away if he fired Mueller? Are Trump supporters actually stupid enough to defend such a thing? Certainly not all of them right?[/QUOTE]
I doubt they'd fall away at all if he fired Mueller. Hell, they're claiming that him being involved in the investigation at all is bullshit because "he and Comey were best buds" or some rot like that, and apparantley [I]that[/I] is where they finally show any concern for conflict of interest.
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