Senators reach deal to restore the health subsidies that Trump cut off - Polidicks

[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/17/us/politics/alexander-murray-deal-obamacare-subsidies.html[/url] [quote]Two leading senators have reached a bipartisan deal to provide funding for critical subsidies to health insurers that President Trump said last week that he would cut off, Senator Lamar Alexander, Republican of Tennessee, said Tuesday. The plan agreed to by Mr. Alexander and Senator Patty Murray of Washington, a Democrat, is intended to stabilize health insurance markets under the Affordable Care Act. As one part of the deal, the subsidies would be funded for two years, a step that would provide at least short-term certainty to insurers. The subsidies, known as cost-sharing reductions, lower out-of-pocket costs for low-income consumers. Mr. Alexander said that in addition to funding the payments to insurers, the deal would also give states “more flexibility in the variety of choices they can give to consumers,” which should appeal to Republican lawmakers eager to give states more say over health care. “This takes care of the next two years,” Mr. Alexander said. “After that, we can have a full-fledged debate on where we go long-term on health care.”[/quote] Trump endorses plan to stop him from doing what he said he'd do last week [media]https://twitter.com/SabrinaSiddiqui/status/920351727949438976[/media]

Trump is the greatest president ever. He's like a parent saying, "If you two can't get along and share, neither of you can have it." Then they have to kiss and make up for the good of everyone. hahaha nah I'm kidding he has no clue what he's doing

[QUOTE=c:;52789148]Trump is the greatest president ever. He's like a parent saying, "If you two can't get along and share, neither of you can have it." Then they have to kiss and make up for the good of everyone. hahaha nah I'm kidding he has no clue what he's doing[/QUOTE] Its more like a parent coming home from a night of drinking and passing out on the couch, which forces the two kids to work together to learn how to make food

Can we get a bipartisan deal to cut trump off too?

Watch him take credit for this one and call it Trumpcare, even though it's just doing through Congress what Obama couldn't get Congress to do and so had to do it by EO (which was ruled illegal and appealed, with the appeal sustained by the Trump administration until it was politically convenient to trash it). I fucking swear he did it just because Obama's name was on the old version. Also, [QUOTE]the deal would also give states “more flexibility in the variety of choices they can give to consumers,” which should appeal to Republican lawmakers eager to give states more say over health care.[/QUOTE] This is potentially very dangerous. I get the feeling the Democrats compromised and let the Republicans have a little bit of what they wanted in exchange for the subsidies being restored. Which is like getting the treatment to cure your cancer in exchange for donating a kidney and half your liver as a bargaining down from the rejected initial offer of "die so I can harvest your organs". I can't exactly feel gratitude if "more flexibility" weakens the individual mandate because, guess what, if that's the case premiums are going back up in those states and the sick are the victims.

trump apparently also believes block grants should be the way to go for medicare which wtf stop touching medicare damnit too bad ryan has said this will not pass the house, at least thats what he was saying this morning

[QUOTE=Sableye;52789230]trump apparently also believes block grants should be the way to go for medicare which wtf stop touching medicare damnit too bad ryan has said this will not pass the house, at least thats what he was saying this morning[/QUOTE] Nothing passes the House under Ryan's watch, it seems. And when it does it dies in the Senate after Trump calls it "mean" after initially throwing a party in the rose garden over its passage in the House.

update: trump has rescinded support for this deal [url]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-healthcare/trump-backs-away-from-senate-deal-on-stabilizing-obamacare-idUSKBN1CN18Z?il=0[/url] [quote]Republican Senator Lamar Alexander, who reached the agreement with Democratic Senator Patty Murray, said Trump had “completely engineered” the proposal. The agreement would provide billions of dollars of subsidies to insurers for two years to help lower-income Americans obtain medical coverage. Trump last week announced he would end the subsidies, potentially creating chaos in the 2018 health insurance markets set up under Obamacare. “I am supportive of Lamar as a person & also of the process, but I can never support bailing out ins co’s who have made a fortune w/ O‘Care,” Trump wrote on Twitter on Wednesday. In another setback, Republican House of Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan indicated no interest in the Alexander-Murray agreement. “The speaker does not see anything that changes his view that the Senate should keep its focus on repeal and replace of Obamacare,” Ryan spokesman Doug Andres said. [/quote]

[QUOTE=Judas;52792626]update: trump has rescinded support for this deal [url]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-healthcare/trump-backs-away-from-senate-deal-on-stabilizing-obamacare-idUSKBN1CN18Z?il=0[/url][/QUOTE] Trump, the great dealmaker, only supports horses that are guaranteed to win. Anything you have to fight for isn't worth it because you [I]could lose[/I] and Trump never loses (just ignore all of his bankruptcies, court losses, the fact that he lost the popular vote, his inaugural day crowd sizes, etc.) so he doesn't even try if victory isn't assured. Either that or someone told him that the plan to support the ACA means Obamacare doesn't die. The Republican Senate Majority is already incapable of passing anything at all and Trump backing, and then ditching, a plan that actually had bipartisan Senate support just proves that this isn't about anything but getting a win. Ryan should've kept his fucking mouth shut and let the votes happen. The Republican Party is incapable of governing, only dismantling. They wouldn't recognize compromise if it shot at them on a baseball field.

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;52792747]The Senate should do what it damn well pleases "Mr speaker of the house". Know your place, you are in the lesser house and should realize that the Senate deal gave you more time to "repeal and replace". Can 2018 come so that we have a deadlocked government again? Pretty sick of hearing about the republican majority.[/QUOTE] Hey at least they're utterly useless instead of being able to actually do stuff.

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;52792747]The Senate should do what it damn well pleases "Mr speaker of the house". Know your place, you are in the lesser house and should realize that the Senate deal gave you more time to "repeal and replace". Can 2018 come so that we have a deadlocked government again? Pretty sick of hearing about the republican majority.[/QUOTE] ya but then they'll blame democrats and people will vote them out because people in this country suffer from a massive amount of cognative dissidence