• The Jazz Thread
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[IMG]http://i47.tinypic.com/2e0llkg.jpg[/IMG] THE JAZZ THREAD. For those of you who don't know... What is Jazz? Picture this. New Orleans, America, circa 1800's. White ragtime music mixes with the spirituals of African slaves. Birth of swing music with Jelly Roll Morton, Benny Goodman capitalizes on big band music in the 1930's, 1940's swing craze, 1950's bebop and blues with Charlie Parker, John Coltrane, etc. etc., and free jazz, smooth jazz, and R&B taking the main stage into present times. So, as you can see, Jazz pretty much has influenced American culture big time. Common Jazz instruments: Saxophone [IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/10pzy1g.jpg[/IMG] Trombone [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/2h71kc6.jpg[/IMG] Clarinet [IMG]http://i47.tinypic.com/slh4w5.jpg[/IMG] Trumpet (strange looking one) [IMG]http://i48.tinypic.com/8xis7n.jpg[/IMG] Drums Well, you metalheads know what a drum kit looks like. :) Of course, this list doesn't include marimbas, xylophones, violins, tubas, flutes, and various other instruments used in Jazz, and not to mention the different classes of each instrument! See: Example: Saxophone Family [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/33y5anm.jpg[/IMG] Enough about instruments, and more about Jazz. Jazz, like rock, is extremely varied. Some examples of Jazz music include: Swing, most prevalent in the 1930's to early 1950's. Usually 10-25 piece orchestra. Notable Artists Count Basie Benny Goodman Woody Herman Louis Armstrong Duke Ellington Glenn Miller Sample [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEpdXgj94xE&feature=related[/media] 1950's bebop. Think African American heroin-users, usually dead before 40, all of them geniuses. Music is defined by intricate melodies with notable use of 1-7 intervals and flat fifths, also bands, or combos, tend to consist of drums, bass, trumpet, sax, one of each. Notable Artists Charlie "The Bird" Parker [IMG]http://i49.tinypic.com/2rwu69k.jpg[/IMG] Sonny Rollins John Coltrane Dizzy Gillespie [IMG]http://i49.tinypic.com/whdwzk.jpg[/IMG] Thelonious Monk Cannonball Adderley Sample [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNE92_VW8qQ[/media] Most of jazz can't be put in a single genre, or grouped together. For some diversity: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q7J4PgrRsY[/media] compared to: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqu0RN2pY5g[/media] Bossa Nova, just jazz that makes you feel good. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH3GSrCmzC8[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnxeKl-Kbqw[/media] Anyways, hope you enjoyed my brief report on one of the cornerstones of American culture. If you are American, and you don't know anything about jazz, I think you should try to learn about the same music your grandfathers listened to! PS If you play jazz, feel free to comment and share your instrument and your position. (I play alto sax in high school etc. etc.) Also, share your instrument of choice in your jazz ensemble. For me, it'd be my 1942 beautiful vintage Buescher Aristocrat [IMG]http://i50.tinypic.com/2uylthy.jpg[/IMG]
Great thread, kind of blue by miles davis is superb john coltrane is the man what a great genre of music. Something everybody needs in their life.
Thank you for making this thread. Bill Evans and Miles Davis are incredible. Duke Ellington is up there too. What a great genre.
Bassist, love playing jazz/blues jams with my band, even though we are mostly rock.
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;22652149]Thank you for making this thread. Bill Evans and Miles Davis are incredible. Duke Ellington is up there too. What a great genre.[/QUOTE] I don't know much about Bill Evans, but Miles Davis of course is a classic and so is Duke Ellington. I'll search up some of his music, thanks for the recommendation.
Ah, I was just at the Boston Symphony last weekend, they were doing Duke Ellington, John Miller and Count Bassie. Also, this might be Jazz, but it's at least inspired by it. Birdland, a club in New York City, got it's name from Charlie "Bird" Parker. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqashW66D7o[/media] Edit: I play Jazz trombone, myself.
[QUOTE=wuzzimu;22652694]Ah, I was just at the Boston Symphony last weekend, they were doing Duke Ellington, John Miller and Count Bassie. Also, this might be Jazz, but it's at least inspired by it. Birdland, a club in New York City, got it's name from Charlie "Bird" Parker. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqashW66D7o[/media] Edit: I play Jazz trombone, myself.[/QUOTE] Nice! What do you play on? Sorry I'm pretty much a gear freak. Do you mean Glenn Miller? Haven't heard of a John Miller. Nice contribution, although I don't think it's related to Charlie parker... O.O More Bird [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT4CVz1TXUg[/media]
No Bitches Brew? What in Armstrong's name is this madness. [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72/Bitches_brew.jpg[/IMG] [MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUVXMWOWaS8[/MEDIA] Charles Mingus anyone? [IMG]http://irom.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/mingus.jpg[/IMG] [MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fFyIeJ01Xc[/MEDIA] Dave Brubeck [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e5/Time_out_album_cover.jpg[/IMG] [MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HUEiUOCLeI[/MEDIA]
I love jazz! :D Especially this intrumental jazz played by a small band, like a drummer, a bassist and a saxophonist, like JOhn Coltrane. I also like newer jazz like Mlies Davis: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFTp2O0ywyw[/media] I'm currently learning to play the jazz guitar to, mostly modal theory and improvising. It's opretty complicated but the harmonics in jazz are so great it'll totally be worth it.
You can't forget about this man! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swncNY4HlbU[/media]
Oh The Chicken, a classic. It's very fun to play.
Tenor sax here for 10 years now. Contemporary jazz: Avishai Cohen (look it up, it's brilliant) Kurt Rosenwinkel Jonathan Kreisberg
[b]Nik Bärstch's Ronin[/b] [quote=Last.fm]Nik Bärtsch&#8217;s Ronin is a Swiss jazz-Band from Zurich. It was founded in 2001 by the Swiss pianist, composer and producer Nik Bärtsch (born 1971). All Ronin releases are part of Nik Baertsch&#8217;s RITUAL GROOVE MUSIC cycle, which combines various musical styles from funk, new classical music to elements of Japanese ritual music. The insistent rhythms also suggest the minimalism of Steve Reich. Bärtsch has called their style &#8220;Zen-Funk&#8221;. The ZEN-FUNK quintet RONIN was founded in 2001, consisting of Nik Baertsch (composition, piano, fender rhodes), Kaspar Rast (drums), Björn Meyer (bass), Andi Pupato (percussion) and Sha (bass- and contrabass clarinet). Their RITUAL GROOVE MUSIC consistently follows the same aesthetic vision under various instrumental guises: creating the maximum effect by minimal means. Besides, Bärtsch performs as a solo artist and with the acoustic group Nik Bärtsch&#8217;s Mobile. Ronin tends to be the more flexible formation and plays the compositions more freely. [/quote] Only type of jazz I like, I need to get into jazz more :< [b]Some songs[/b] Modul 46 from their Holon(2008) album, best album in my opinion. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4IfSyHBu_A&feature=related[/media] Them performing Modul 36 from their Stoa(2006) album live. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbi80MDCZc8[/media] I love the minimalist style of theirs, I wish they had more albums. You can get some of their songs for free from their Last.fm page: [url=http://www.last.fm/music/Nik+B%C3%A4rtsch's+Ronin]Click.[/url] [editline]a[/editline] Just made a song inspired by them: [url=http://www.upload.moogen.org/uploads/whitespace/Experiment 1.mp3]Click.[/url]
Oh man, you've gotta love the old vocal jazz from the 30's and 40's such as the Ink Spots, Mills Brothers and so on. Can't get this song out of my head: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruLIkHIIuwE[/media]
Monk is amazing. I like a lot of the New Orleans bebop because it is just insane. There are some jazz stations on shoutcast that I don't quite like the style of because it's way too smooth and poppish.
[B]Pharoah Sanders[/B] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsiQ8YNhEnQ[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9fho0M4oms[/media] [URL="http://youtube.com/watch?v=X9fho0M4oms"][/URL]
I've always respected Jazz For the passion put into it and the musical talent required I've never quite been able to get into it however. My dad loves it though, he's got a record collection probably worth a couple G now
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;22681271]Oh man, you've gotta love the old vocal jazz from the 30's and 40's such as the Ink Spots, Mills Brothers and so on. Can't get this song out of my head: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruLIkHIIuwE[/media][/QUOTE] I fucking love the Andrews Sisters! Thank you Fallout 3! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjMSHfn1vuM[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wiVkdVPGoY[/media]
Ronnie Jordan's definitely got to have some credit. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPN9hl3Ftaw[/url] By the way, this is the song he played this from: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2yFJKzzea0[/url]
Jazz is probably the hardest genre to play on drums in my opinion.
Just came home from the second part of the biggest Jazz festival in Iceland. Turned out to be a Stevie Wonder tribute :v: I got to meet the guitarist and singer. Fuck it was fun!
[QUOTE=Altec100;22889299]Jazz is probably the hardest genre to play on drums in my opinion.[/QUOTE] I feel like that is sarcasm although it may not be. A lot of jazz has a really simple drum beat, it wasn't until bebop that drummers got more freedom.
jazz is easily the hardest genre for pretty much all instruments. ever looked at a chart of jazz chords? my guitar teacher who has been playing for 30 years can't get through some of that shit. As far as drums are concerned, Buddy Rich was a jazz drummer, well, pretty much every early famous drummer was a jazz drummer. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0V4Aqs2D48[/media]
[QUOTE=Pepin;22891260]I feel like that is sarcasm although it may not be. A lot of jazz has a really simple drum beat, it wasn't until bebop that drummers got more freedom.[/QUOTE] No sarcasm intended. I really do think it is very difficult.
Oh well don't misunderstand me, not saying jazz drumming is easy, just saying that for a while in the genre the composures had strict demands for the drums to be a simple loop through the whole song. Listened to some whole long interview where this guy gave some history about the change from drums from prebebop to bebop. Now, drum solos at any point in jazz can get pretty crazy. [editline]01:43AM[/editline] Holy crap, I listened to this [img]http://www.covershut.com/covers/Charles-Mingus-The-Black-Saint-And-The-Sinner-Lady-1963-Front-Cover-27797.jpg[/img] the other night and I was just like put into shock. I think during the second or third song I started to go crazy.
Black Saint and the Sinner Lady is one of my favorite records ever also, Don Ellis: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFf_190Vnr4[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_JDsblpMP0[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svt8cqcYA8g&feature=related[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkg8kznDFNs[/media] Composition of the pianist.
May as well put up a little piece by Willie The Lion Smith (He's the guy on my avatar btw), here's fingerbuster. Wish I could play it: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDMOkgSdy3E[/media] [editline]10:46AM[/editline] Oh and some more piano by Fats Waller. This has to be the most hilarious music video through history: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in1eK3x1PBI[/media]
[QUOTE=Pepin;22891260]A lot of jazz has a really simple drum beat.[/QUOTE] I think you are thinking of rock music.
Yeah Jazz usually has some pretty complex time signatures and etc etc. I should download some Monk
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