• Russia: Somali pirates freed 300 miles offshore may have drowned. No shit.
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[url]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703565804575238182744677948.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird[/url] [release][img]http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/WO-AA907_PIRATE_G_20100511190458.jpg[/img] Ten pirates released from a Russian warship 300 miles out to sea may have drowned, according to Russian officials and colleagues of the pirates, raising fears of retaliation against other vessels plying East African waters. The pirates were captured last week after they hijacked the Moscow University, a Liberian-flagged, Russian-operated oil tanker sailing off the Somali coast. A Russian warship came to the ship's rescue and apprehended the pirates. But after determining it would be too difficult to obtain a conviction, Russian officials said that they dropped plans to take the pirates to Moscow for trial. Instead, like many other warships that have intercepted pirate skiffs, the Russian marines released the pirates — but not before removing weapons and navigation equipment from the boat several hundred miles from shore. Russian officials gave no explanation for removing the navigation equipment. A Russian Defense Ministry spokesperson said radio signals from the boat disappeared about an hour after the release. "That could mean that they are dead," the spokesperson said. Fellow pirates in Somalia also said they lost contact with the boat after their separation from the Russian warship. "We will hold Russia responsible if any harm comes to them," said a pirate commander, Abdi Dhagaweyne, in a telephone interview. "I'm not sure of their safety now because we have since lost contact." Foreign navies have begun aggressively patrolling international sea lanes, but pirates have kept up hijackings, recently seizing a South Korean oil tanker and, late last week, a German-owned chemical tanker. Clashes have become more frequent as warships deploy unmanned aircraft and other surveillance techniques to track potential attackers, prompting threats from pirates that they will target ships of countries that go after them. So far this year, there have been 73 reported attacks or attempted attacks in the region, a little more than half of total incidents worldwide, according to the International Maritime Bureau. Part of the piracy problem is rooted the question of what to do with those who are captured. Those pirates who are caught by warships are often released, either for lack of evidence or a court in which to try them. Sometimes, the warships will drop the pirates close enough for them to reach Somali shores. In other cases, they may simply confiscate their weapons and return the men to their skiffs, which are usually little more than narrow wooden boats with outboard motors attached to the back. The boats often take on water and sometimes capsize. In retaliation for the recent Russian rescue, pirates have threatened to harm any Russian nationals they find aboard hijacked ships. They also threatened to mistreat French nationals because the French navy has also been aggressive in rescuing its captured ships. Last year, pirates threatened to attack Americans after thwarted attempts to hijack U.S. ships. Pirates typically try not to harm any people they capture because they don't want to jeopardize their million-dollar ransoms. On Tuesday, a hijacked Bermuda-flagged cargo ship was released after two months for $2.5 million, according to pirates involved in the deal. The Moscow University tanker was hijacked on May 5 by a gang of pirates, according to the European Naval Force Somalia, which patrols these waters and monitors hijacking attempts. It said the crew members locked themselves in the rudder compartment as the pirates boarded the ship. A Russian warship began steaming to its aid. When the warship, the Marshal Shaposhnikov, came close enough to the hijacked ship, it sent a helicopter to investigate. The pirates fired at it, and the warship fired back. The pirates quickly surrendered, and the warship sent a team to capture the pirates and free the crew. The warship then released the pirates, setting them free in the same skiff they used to hijack the tanker.[/release] [img]http://missiledefense.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/vladimir-putin2_0.jpg[/img] Verever could they be?
who the fuck cares, theyʻre some scum of the earth who have nothing better to do than be thugs
[QUOTE=Sleepy Head;21895034]who the fuck cares, theyʻre some scum of the earth who have nothing better to do than be thugs[/QUOTE] I sense great empathy in the post.
Now that's the Russian way. Leave the motherfuckers 300 miles out at sea to die. As if those pirates could do shit to get back at them.
Pirate Leader: "Oh no their dead and its all your fault" Russia: "They were trying to hijack and steal from us" Pirate Leader: "YUURR FAULT :("
Oh no, the pirates will hold the Russians responsible, what will the Russians do now. It's not like they have warships in the region to defend themselves and civilian ships with, Oh wait...
So fucking what? They had it coming, no doubt about that.
[QUOTE=Sleepy Head;21895034]who the fuck cares, theyʻre some scum of the earth who have nothing better to do than be thugs[/QUOTE] Actually, they're small fishermen who have had all the good fish taken by foreign (mostly Chinese) industrial fishermen.
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21895105]Actually, they're small fishermen who have had all the good fish taken by foreign (mostly Chinese) industrial fishermen.[/QUOTE] Your point?
My friend took hostages and wanted a ransom for them but the SWAT killed him. SWAT's fault. I'm gonna sue them for 1 million dollars.
[QUOTE=Incognito;21895168]Your point?[/QUOTE] Driven to piracy by desperation. High risk high reward. I'm not saying they aren't bad people, but its not like they do this just so they can fire rpgs at the white man
As far as the Russians are concerned, this operation went swimmingly.
I like how the pirates act as if they've been wronged or something. Bitches go and hijack boats, cause millions in damage, and waste everybody's time, and then get bitchy when something happens to them. I say they shouldn't even be captured or released. Kill on sight.
[QUOTE=Stus67;21895309]I like how the pirates act as if they've been wronged or something. Bitches go and hijack boats, cause millions in damage, and waste everybody's time, and then get bitchy when something happens to them. I say they shouldn't even be captured or released. Kill on sight.[/QUOTE] Yes, they should just hang around on their beaches watching european trawlers take all of their food. And the beaches are radioactive. Because we dumped nuclear material and all kinds of poisonous shit in their waters. This doesn't justify their actions, but they are desperate people in a desperate environment. Somali pirates are actually one of the most important factions in Somalia. They bring food home to a starved people. Some of them are just gangsters and keep all their spoils for themselves, but a lot of them are honest fishermen driven to stealing back fish from their unprotected waters.
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21895105]Actually, they're small fishermen who have had all the good fish taken by foreign (mostly Chinese) industrial fishermen.[/QUOTE] Then they should blow the Chinese up.
You're supposed to know how to swim when you're a pirate :ohdear:
they probably shot them and dumped their bodies into the sea, they "drowned" I'm not heartless but /care.
They had to walk the plank.
Damn. I hoped they made the walk the plank. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Pyle_pirate_plank_edited.jpg[/img] [editline]12:54PM[/editline] FFS ninja :ninja:
I don't know whether it should be empathetic or not. One second I feel really bad for the pirates, but then I remember they're fucking pirates, they're just as bad as anyone and the Russians had full right to stoop to their level. Removing the navigation was a bit uncalled for but I can see why they might've done it.
in soviet russia, PIRATE WALKS PLANK
Just Russia being awesome Carry on
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;21897616]in soviet russia, PIRATE WALKS PLANK[/QUOTE] and in america, plank walks pirate
I don't know, it seems to me like it would be more reasonable to detain them than inhumanely kill all of them. Sorry, fuck that. I'm not in favor of killing prisoners, that's just uncool. If you're a first-world nation and you've got 10 guys completely under control, you don't leave them to drown, you imprison them and then give them a trial. Furthermore, it's really not reasonable for anybody here in America, where you have access to as much food as you want and a computer with an internet connection, to pass judgment on people such as this, who live in a terrible region and really don't have other options. I'm not advocating piracy, but as a planet, we first-world countries really haven't done anything to help the situation in Somalia compared to what we could be doing.
[QUOTE=Sirdangolot5;21897835]I don't know, it seems to me like it would be more reasonable to detain them than inhumanely kill all of them. Sorry, fuck that. I'm not in favor of killing prisoners, that's just uncool. If you're a first-world nation and you've got 10 guys completely under control, you don't leave them to drown, you imprison them and then give them a trial. Furthermore, it's really not reasonable for anybody here in America, where you have access to as much food as you want and a computer with an internet connection, to pass judgment on people such as this, who live in a terrible region and really don't have other options. I'm not advocating piracy, but as a planet, we first-world countries really haven't done anything to help the situation in Somalia compared to what we could be doing.[/QUOTE] They well might not be dead. They might still get back. Or they already got back, but keep making waves.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;21897884]They well might not be dead. They might still get back. Or they already got back, but keep making waves.[/QUOTE] At the average swimming speed of a human being, it would take them 10 days of constant swimming to get back to shore if they never stopped, slowed down, or went so much as one degree off course. They're done for.
Somalia: WTF RUSSIA UR BEING SO UNETHICAL TOWARDS DEM PIRATES THEY R HUMENS 2 K? Putin: Sorry about that. Here, have some ethically hurting "aid" [img]http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9664/vladimirputincockpittu1.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=PiXeN;21897132]You're supposed to know how to swim when you're a pirate :ohdear:[/QUOTE] You try swimming 300 miles to land.
What else could the Russians have done? They couldn't take them home for trial and they sure as hell weren't going to drop them off on the shore. Taking their navigation equipment was kind of a dick move, but hey, those pirates knew the risks.
They got what was coming to them. I hope it will scare off some pirates.
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