[quote]The find is “mind-boggling,” says Kevin Seymour, a paleobiologist at the Royal Ontario Museum who was not involved in the study. “That’s what the far north does: it serves up these surprises every now and then.”
The fossil fragments were collected from a site on Ellesmere Island over the course of three field seasons starting in 2006. That first year was an exceptionally buggy one, Rybczynski remembers. Scrabbling around in the dirt with her vision obscured by a bug net, she found what she thought might be ancient wood, and pocketed it.[/quote]
[url=http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2013/03/05/camel_fossils_discovered_in_canadas_arctic_shed_light_on_animals_evolution.html]Moose[/url]
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Wooly Camels?
It's actual history that camels were brought to Canada during the gold rush - but I thought they only stayed farther south where it wouldn't freeze them to death? Ellesmere Island is REALLY far north according to google maps... [url]https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=ellesmere+island&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x4fd25464998f8a31:0x2ea61abac5334086,Ellesmere+Island&gl=ca&ei=2MA2UYHwAoi1rQGIl4CYDA&ved=0CJ0BELYD[/url]
Aren't camels from the colder regions of Asia anyways? It's just that the desert ones we're used to seeing are adapted from when traders brought them south or something like that.
[sp] I'm probably very wrong, just asking.[/sp]
[QUOTE=The Castro;39815781]Aren't camels from the colder regions of Asia anyways? It's just that the desert ones we're used to seeing are adapted from when traders brought them south or something like that.
[sp] I'm probably very wrong, just asking.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Some types of camel do come from the Gobi which is can be extremely cold.
So yes. You are right.
What is a camel but not a method for long distance travel?
I don't think they were indigenous, I'd chock it up to people travelling from Asia to north america via Alaska.
Wait till they find the secret subterranean Arab empire lurking just beneath Canada.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;39816314]What is a camel but not a method for long distance travel?
I don't think they were indigenous, I'd chock it up to people travelling from Asia to north america via Alaska.[/QUOTE]
idk if there is any evidence humans domesticated animals by this point.
[QUOTE=Elspin;39815776]It's actual history that camels were brought to Canada during the gold rush - but I thought they only stayed farther south where it wouldn't freeze them to death? Ellesmere Island is REALLY far north according to google maps... [url]https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=ellesmere+island&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x4fd25464998f8a31:0x2ea61abac5334086,Ellesmere+Island&gl=ca&ei=2MA2UYHwAoi1rQGIl4CYDA&ved=0CJ0BELYD[/url][/QUOTE]
Well, that may be true, but these aren't bones, they're FOSSILS, which if I'm correct, take a LONG frickin time to come into existence.
[QUOTE=Elspin;39815776]It's actual history that camels were brought to Canada during the gold rush - but I thought they only stayed farther south where it wouldn't freeze them to death? Ellesmere Island is REALLY far north according to google maps... [url]https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=ellesmere+island&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x4fd25464998f8a31:0x2ea61abac5334086,Ellesmere+Island&gl=ca&ei=2MA2UYHwAoi1rQGIl4CYDA&ved=0CJ0BELYD[/url][/QUOTE]
In the actual article:
[quote]The fossil fragments date to a warm period 3.5 to 4 million years ago[/quote]
a touch early for the gold rush
Well they did find fossils of lions and crocodiles here in Serbia,so it shouldn't be so unbelievable
Given the use of the lion in medieval heraldry they must have been fucking everywhere in Europe.
[editline]6th March 2013[/editline]
Or people just thought they were cool
[QUOTE=Elspin;39815776]It's actual history that camels were brought to Canada during the gold rush - but I thought they only stayed farther south where it wouldn't freeze them to death? Ellesmere Island is REALLY far north according to google maps... [url]https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=ellesmere+island&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x4fd25464998f8a31:0x2ea61abac5334086,Ellesmere+Island&gl=ca&ei=2MA2UYHwAoi1rQGIl4CYDA&ved=0CJ0BELYD[/url][/QUOTE]
You do realize the desert gets really cold at night right? Camels already withstand freezing temperatures.
Those are some sexy ass moose eh.
Fucking hell, even the Canadians have cooler fossils than we do.
We gots these:
[t]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSI83D-I0BdunksHyFeGPNzAyNbbFPvvid0qtDftY701GvteiqvTw[/t]
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;39819792]Fucking hell, even the Canadians have cooler fossils than we do.
We gots these:
[t]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSI83D-I0BdunksHyFeGPNzAyNbbFPvvid0qtDftY701GvteiqvTw[/t][/QUOTE]
Those things are cool. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
I mean. What is it even. Is it a fish? Is it a worm? It's mysterious. And that makes it awesome.
Camels are just camels. (Camels are cool though. Even though this finding doesn't really surprise me since they have relatives (llama and alpaca) living in South America indicating that the historical distribution of their ancestor had to have been much larger.)
How is this surprising? Camelids originated in North America and subsequently invaded Asia, Africa and South America, where their extant members are now.
If the fossils are 4 million years old it totally makes sense, with the Great American Interchange happening 2 million years ago the relatives of those north-american camelids went to South America and gave rise to llamas.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;39816055]Some types of camel do come from the Gobi which is can be extremely cold.
So yes. You are right.[/QUOTE]
So would bactrian camels be somewhat adept at surviving in Canada? Or are there other factors in play?
Personally I'd assume that the abundance of greenery in Canada would allow the camels to thrive due to abundance of food, unless of course Canadian foliage is indigestible to bactrian camels.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;39819792]Fucking hell, even the Canadians have cooler fossils than we do.
We gots these:
[t]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSI83D-I0BdunksHyFeGPNzAyNbbFPvvid0qtDftY701GvteiqvTw[/t][/QUOTE]
[U][I][B]COMIC SAAAAAAANNS!!![/B][/I][/U]
But in all seriousness, this is pretty cool. Isn't there a small desert in Alberta or something?
[QUOTE=Muthenfrucheir;39822711][U][I][B]COMIC SAAAAAAANNS!!![/B][/I][/U]
But in all seriousness, this is pretty cool. Isn't there a small desert in Alberta or something?[/QUOTE]
Alberta has some [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_Canyon_(Alberta)]badlands[/url], not really a desert. There is a [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okanagan_Desert]"pocket desert"[/url] in BC, though. It's really a steppe, but whatever.
[QUOTE=Tibbolax;39816480]Wait till they find the secret subterranean Arab empire lurking just beneath Canada.[/QUOTE]
Its located in Brampton
that camel looks so majestic
Wasn't north america divided where the Mississippi is around 3-4 million ears ago?
Wouldn't this explain the dinosaurs seeing as the earth was in a "warmed" state during that time?
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