[quote]For over two years, paleontologists have been chipping away at Dakota, a rare mummified duck-billed dinosaur that remains encased in a "stone tomb," according to a Grand Forks Herald report.
The dinosaur, however, is nearly 75 percent removed, revealing what appears to be fossilized skin, ligaments, tendons and, scientists hope, some fossilized internal organs.
Dakota is an Edmontosaurus that lived 65 million years ago in what are now the North Dakota Badlands.[/quote]
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Badass.
That is really cool
Have we actually ever found intact organ fossils?
There hasn't been a lot of cases where they were positive they could establish how the dinosaur really looked, I think. Skinwise.
There was that one raptor with feathers where they apparently found something out. I'd love if they could determine the real looks of this one.
Simply awesome, now lets clone that shit!
Edmontosaurus... Really?
They should've called him Steve. Steveosaurus.
[QUOTE=Johnnsen;23298234]There hasn't been a lot of cases where they were positive they could establish how the dinosaur really looked, I think. Skinwise.
There was that one raptor with feathers where they apparently found something out. I'd love if they could determine the real looks of this one.[/QUOTE]
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can I haz jurassic park tiem? 8D
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Yeah those I remembered. For the most part dinosaurs in books or movies or educational literature were just colored randomly.
Seriously they should try to clone that shit, if they find anything salvageable.
[QUOTE=kayOkay;23298306]Seriously they should try to clone that shit, if they find anything salvageable.[/QUOTE]
Jurassic Park in real life. Except now with 5 times the amount of fat slobs fucking shit up and trying to earn a quick buck.
[b]HAHAHA, YOU DIDNT SAY THE MAGIC WORD. HAHAHA[/b]
[QUOTE=Dole;23298332]Jurassic Park in real life. Except now with 5 times the amount of fat slobs fucking shit up and trying to earn a quick buck.
[b]HAHAHA, YOU DIDNT SAY THE MAGIC WORD. HAHAHA[/b][/QUOTE]
Hold on to your butts!
[QUOTE=Dole;23298332]Jurassic Park in real life. Except now with 5 times the amount of fat slobs fucking shit up and trying to earn a quick buck.[/QUOTE]
So, 5 slobs in total?
Anyway, I doubt the cloning thing will work. Although I would love to see a real dinosaur. Would probably be as affordable as space tourism though.
I have the strangest feeling that Tevin_De_Butche is The_Lizard_Xing.
[QUOTE=Johnnsen;23298353]So, 5 slobs in total?
Anyway, I doubt the cloning thing will work. Although I would love to see a real dinosaur. Would probably be as affordable as space tourism though.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, with the actual technology, they could, at best, have working stim cells (that's what we can do with human cells so far, anyway). So yeah, it won't be tomorrow morning.
Though if they would open it... :iia:
[QUOTE=kayOkay;23298306]Seriously they should try to clone that shit, if they find anything salvageable.[/QUOTE]
I hate to burst your bubble, but this dinosaur is still fossilized.
Let me explain
Normally, dinosaurs are buried in the ground and their skin and soft tissue decays... their organs, tendons, etc all disappear leaving only the bones, which decay very slowly. Since they decay so slowly, there is more time for minerals to replace the organic material, turning the bones to rock. Those are the fossils that paleontologists find in the ground, they are not actual bones, but bones petrified in rock.
That same exact thing happened to this dinosaur, except it was sealed in some sort of tar pit or something where bacteria could not eat away at the soft tissue, preserving it. This gave enough time for minerals to replace the soft tissue, which doesn't normally happen. That is what gives you this "preserved mummy".
My point is that no organic material has been preserved because, although the dinosaur's image has been preserved, petrified in the rock, it is made of exactly that- rock. There is no genetic material left over, therefore, no DNA for scientists to extract.
Also, even if there was actual organic material, the DNA would have broken down by now. Dinosaurs died out 60 million years ago. Mammoths died out only 20,000 years ago and we can't even extract any DNA from them
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The only reason this is significant is because now scientists can see petrified dinosaur organs, which would allow them to see the internal workings of a dinosaur without just guessing
[QUOTE=Haxxer;23298230]Have we actually ever found intact organ fossils?[/QUOTE]
Another skeleton named "Willo" had a fossilized heart in the ribcage, complete with a single aorta, the heart of a fast moving, warm blooded animal.
[QUOTE=salty peanut v2;23298359]I have the strangest feeling that Tevin_De_Butche is The_Lizard_Xing.[/QUOTE]
Conspiracy theory? :raise:
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I do hope we could get a closer look at it one day
[QUOTE=Sir Tristan;23298475]I hate to burst your bubble, but this dinosaur is still fossilized.
Let me explain
Normally, dinosaurs are buried in the ground and their skin and soft tissue decays... their organs, tendons, etc all disappear leaving only the bones, which decay very slowly. Since they decay so slowly, there is more time for minerals to replace the organic material, turning the bones to rock. Those are the fossils that paleontologists find in the ground, they are not actual bones, but bones petrified in rock.
That same exact thing happened to this dinosaur, except it was sealed in some sort of tar pit or something where bacteria could not eat away at the soft tissue, preserving it. This gave enough time for minerals to replace the soft tissue, which doesn't normally happen. That is what gives you this "preserved mummy".
My point is that no organic material has been preserved because, although the dinosaur's image has been preserved, petrified in the rock, it is made of exactly that- rock. There is no genetic material left over, therefore, no DNA for scientists to extract.
Also, even if there was actual organic material, the DNA would have broken down by now. Dinosaurs died out 60 million years ago. Mammoths died out only 20,000 years ago and we can't even extract any DNA from them
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The only reason this is significant is because now scientists can see petrified dinosaur organs, which would allow them to see the internal workings of a dinosaur without just guessing[/QUOTE]
Soo...basically we can never clone dinosaurs?
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Also, even if there was actual organic material, the DNA would have broken down by now. Dinosaurs died out 60 million years ago. Mammoths died out only 20,000 years ago and we can't even extract any DNA from them
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The only reason this is significant is because now scientists can see petrified dinosaur organs, which would allow them to see the internal workings of a dinosaur without just guessing[/QUOTE]
Your main point about dinosaurs is valid, but uh, we've sequenced the entire Mammoth genome. So I do believe that we've managed to extract DNA.
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yes
Now that, is awesome.
See, there is proof that Dinosaurs lived with humans. They just buried their pet
Holy Shit, Dino-Zombies.
That would be awesome.
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