Part 1:
[video]https://youtu.be/Yvatzr7pA70[/video]
Part 2:
[video]https://youtu.be/c7b-kjmmokI[/video]
Diamonds in general are a fucking scam.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;52461996]Diamonds in general are a fucking scam.[/QUOTE]
I laugh whenever I see commercials for "chocolate diamonds" too. As if they weren't enough of a scam, now you're going to market low quality flawed diamonds as some unique variety? Fucking lol.
[QUOTE=unrezt;52462039]I laugh whenever I see commercials for "chocolate diamonds" too. As if they weren't enough of a scam, now you're going to market low quality flawed diamonds as some unique variety? Fucking lol.[/QUOTE]
Perfect proof that people will literally buy fucking anything if it's marketed the right way
[editline]12th July 2017[/editline]
I'll never forget the thread on here about the dude on eBay who sold a "mystery envelope" for $8,000.
Or the guy that bought a potato chip shaped like a boot for $3,000.
[editline]12th July 2017[/editline]
Hope I never marry a girl who likes precious gems because she's gonna be disappointed
[QUOTE=Kylel999;52462469]Perfect proof that people will literally buy fucking anything if it's marketed the right way
[editline]12th July 2017[/editline]
I'll never forget the thread on here about the dude on eBay who sold a "mystery envelope" for $8,000.
Or the guy that bought a potato chip shaped like a boot for $3,000.
[editline]12th July 2017[/editline]
Hope I never marry a girl who likes precious gems because she's gonna be disappointed[/QUOTE]
It's a bit hypocritical, isn't it?
I want a guy who's willing to prove how much he loves me by spending thousands of dollars on pieces of glittery rock that was carved from the earth using child slavery!
Especially since we can make this shit in the lab, how is buying real diamonds [I]not[/I] seen as an incredibly immoral thing to do?
Tradition and stupidity.
I feel like writing an essay about this, but I feel like getting jewelry is a useless thing if there's no adventure behind it.
Ooooh, woah, you bought jewelry? Sure exciting.
I become a gem hoarder in games like Skyrim because each of those crowns, rings, and necklaces have a story behind them. I can't imagine actually buying one of those POSs. Being a jewel thief? Maybe if I was Catwoman. Being one of these women chasing robin's egg blue boxes? Fuck no.
There was a incredibly stupid article from a woman lamenting over the ending of her engagement. Not because things didn't work out, no, but because she had to give back her ring. Yeah... [I]probably[/I] a reason things didn't work out.
The worst thing about diamonds is that any argument against them is met with accusations that you just can't afford them and are looking for an excuse.
It might be some 20th century marketed trend but I can't see it going away anytime soon. It's an idea not a genuine product, and ideas are bulletproof, m'lady.
Why do diamond tipped saw blades and drill bits not cost thousands of dollars a piece if diamonds are oh so precious. Does no one stop and think? Does a bit of polish and cutting add all that value? Hell no. Look at all the stuff in our daily lives that we have that are infinitely more complicated and harder to manufacture yet cost a fraction. Like a CPU in a PC
I wish synthetics were large enough to be used in cooling cpus as heat sinks or at least plates for water cooling.
I thought that there was something called Earth Diamonds and there was a really smart scam involving them
it took me longer than I I'd like to admit that it was the name of the company he was talking about
Fuck diamonds, if I'm getting a ring for my sweetie it's going to be made out of something cooler than some ultra-squished carbon. Something like a [I]motherfuckin' [B]meteorite[/B][/I].
[IMG]http://www.metamorphosisdesign.com/wp-content/gallery/14k-rose-gold-taza-meteorite-ring_1/14k-rose-gold-taza-meteorite-ring-51tazard-b-34.jpg[/IMG]
I remember some butthurt billionaire complaining about millennials not buying diamonds any more. Like it was a bad thing.
[QUOTE=unrezt;52462039]I laugh whenever I see commercials for "chocolate diamonds" too. As if they weren't enough of a scam, now you're going to market low quality flawed diamonds as some unique variety? Fucking lol.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/w8wFFYC.png[/IMG]
I have no idea how the diamond business will survive the millennial wave.
Like bruh I have to downgrade my fries from a medium to a small at McDonalds if I want to make rent how in the fuck do you think I can afford 1.5k on a tiny transparent rock.
[QUOTE=Fapplejack;52464217]I have no idea how the diamond business will survive the millennial wave.
Like bruh I have to downgrade my fries from a medium to a small at McDonalds if I want to make rent how in the fuck do you think I can afford 1.5k on a tiny transparent rock.[/QUOTE]
That's the thing - their target market isn't you, then. To them, you're a dirty peasant who doesn't deserve to have a diamond.
It's basically anyone who can scrape up the money to afford the prices they dictate. As long as there are rich people who assign this chunk of transparent rock a status, there'll be a market. The world will never run out of those people as long as a positive image is associated with diamonds, which is basically what diamond companies do - it's 90% marketing it as something exclusive and a symbolic necessity as a reflection of your commitment to your partner.
Honestly, I'd rather learn how to craft and forge a ring of my own design for the person I love than waste my money on a diamond. Shit, even something like a simple gold band can carry meaning if it's inscribed with something.
[QUOTE=unrezt;52462039]I laugh whenever I see commercials for "chocolate diamonds" too. As if they weren't enough of a scam, now you're going to market low quality flawed diamonds as some unique variety? Fucking lol.[/QUOTE]
two of womens' favourite things, you can't lose
anyone who isn't capable of understanding the cultural significance behind diamonds is honestly an idiot who is completely missing the point
[QUOTE=Fapplejack;52464217]I have no idea how the diamond business will survive the millennial wave.
Like bruh I have to downgrade my fries from a medium to a small at McDonalds if I want to make rent how in the fuck do you think I can afford 1.5k on a tiny transparent rock.[/QUOTE]
speaking of millennials, the diamond industry wont miss you because you're not even the intended sales demographic
diamonds have now been for ages a symbol of status, wealth, commitment, etc. i dont condone retarded shit like the "conflict free" diamond scam, but to dismiss diamonds on grounds of it being a "scam" and just a piece of rock that we collectively decided to attribute value to is a juvenile way to see things, and an even dumber perspective.
[QUOTE=Melnek;52464455]anyone who isn't capable of understanding the cultural significance behind diamonds is honestly an idiot who is completely missing the point
speaking of millennials, the diamond industry wont miss you because you're not even the intended sales demographic
diamonds have now been for ages a symbol of status, wealth, commitment, etc. i dont condone retarded shit like the "conflict free" diamond scam, but to dismiss diamonds on grounds of it being a "scam" and just a piece of rock that we collectively decided to attribute value to is a juvenile way to see things, and an even dumber perspective.[/QUOTE]
most of the demand for diamonds and the whole idea of diamond wedding rings came about in the early-mid 20th century
what cultural significance? I'm not wasting my money on that bullshit if I get married
People should pause the Pt 2 video and take a look at the letter Brilliant Earth sent him. It's a laugh.
[QUOTE=Melnek;52464455]anyone who isn't capable of understanding the cultural significance behind diamonds is honestly an idiot who is completely missing the point
speaking of millennials, the diamond industry wont miss you because you're not even the intended sales demographic
diamonds have now been for ages a symbol of status, wealth, commitment, etc. i dont condone retarded shit like the "conflict free" diamond scam, but to dismiss diamonds on grounds of it being a "scam" and just a piece of rock that we collectively decided to attribute value to is a juvenile way to see things, and an even dumber perspective.[/QUOTE]
what are you even talking about, diamonds have been culturally significant ever since diamond mines marketed them as so. it's literally a huge marketing trick. it's not a scam, but that cultural value is entirely fabricated.
You're right about the last bit, though, we didn't collectively decide to attribute value to diamonds. The De Beers group did.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;52464459]most of the demand for diamonds and the whole idea of diamond wedding rings came about in the early-mid 20th century
what cultural significance? I'm not wasting my money on that bullshit if I get married[/QUOTE]
the "cultural significance" that propelled diamonds into the multi-billion dollar industry that it is today, are you honestly rejecting the idea of them being ingrained into western (also eastern, in places) culture?
and nobody cares if you, personally, wouldn't waste money on them for a wedding or even as a piece of jewelry. for a lot of people, and i'd even go as far as to say the majority, diamonds remain a highly prestigious item that represents a lot of very significant things for a lot of people.
this hyper-utilitarian oversimplification of all things rooted primarily in tradition or social constructs is the trademark of the "millennial". tbh fuck that word, it's not even clearly representing a demographic, so lets just say modern young adults.
[QUOTE=Melnek;52464455]anyone who isn't capable of understanding the cultural significance behind diamonds is honestly an idiot who is completely missing the point[/quote]
Ah yes, the cultural significance of a bunch of 19-20th century marketing experts coming up with that whole "diamonds are forever, you gotta propose with one or else your love means nothing" shebang.
Truly a wonderful tradition, not at all guilt tripping people into materializing their love with a boring overpriced rock. And if you're criticizing it for being a modern invention toted as an ~ancient tradition~ then you're just a hyperutilitarian no-fun millennial.
[video=youtube;yK_9GN5r-Jg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK_9GN5r-Jg[/video]
(When GradeA still makes good rant vids)
Either way, diamonds were a scam. But since everybody bought the lie and it had evolved into a kabazillion dollar industry, it is now a legitimate business for those who subconsciously agreed to that piece of carbon's sentimental value. And of course we poor folks here are still calling diamonds scams because we can't afford to be in that special social circle.
[QUOTE=Melnek;52464622]the "cultural significance" that propelled diamonds into the multi-billion dollar industry that it is today, are you honestly rejecting the idea of them being ingrained into western (also eastern, in places) culture?
and nobody cares if you, personally, wouldn't waste money on them for a wedding or even as a piece of jewelry. for a lot of people, and i'd even go as far as to say the majority, diamonds remain a highly prestigious item that represents a lot of very significant things for a lot of people.
this hyper-utilitarian oversimplification of all things rooted primarily in tradition or social constructs is the trademark of the "millennial". tbh fuck that word, it's not even clearly representing a demographic, so lets just say modern young adults.[/QUOTE]
let me tell you son, I watched fiddler on the roof, and I know what tradition is
tradition consists of things such as the weird habits and customs people have done (from eating a type of soup as a cure for a sore throat, or wearing a particular piece of clothing, following the advice of the oldest woman in the village, etc)
buying a diamond ring for your spouse is something that wasn't common practice anywhere until the 20th century (and even then only in a number of western countries). it's a consumerist thing masquerading as tradition. since we're throwing names around, I'd say that bugmen are the sorts who equate consumerism with tradition and use the latter largely as a means to sell shit to people. you can't trick us
Even if you were to consider 19th to 20th century early consumerism as tradition, it's still a fucking dumb tradition that we'd be better off without.
Never forget ARE's pilot.
[video]https://youtu.be/N5kWu1ifBGU[/video]
[QUOTE=TheTalon;52463850]Why do diamond tipped saw blades and drill bits not cost thousands of dollars a piece if diamonds are oh so precious. Does no one stop and think? Does a bit of polish and cutting add all that value? Hell no. Look at all the stuff in our daily lives that we have that are infinitely more complicated and harder to manufacture yet cost a fraction. Like a CPU in a PC[/QUOTE]
Not to detract from the main argument but to be fair afaik industrial grade-diamonds are those that don't look good enough for jewellery.
another problem diamonds have now is that its getting cheaper and easier to manufacture them artificially and its getting harder to tell the difference between the two as manufacturing methods improve
[QUOTE=Kljunas;52464736]Not to detract from the main argument but to be fair afaik industrial grade-diamonds are those that don't look good enough for jewellery.[/QUOTE]
They work on different standards which disregard all the carat/clarity/color bullshit and just focuses on the hardness and thermal conductivity.
That and a the huge majority of diamonds used industrially are synthetic, like 80 or 90% of diamond grinding grit is synthetic.
Do note that the line between industrial-grade and gem-grade is actually quite blurry and fluctuates based on demand. You can easily refurbish a diamond destined for industrial use into a cheap gem.
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