• Eating disorders in young men 'are being overlooked'
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[QUOTE]Young men with an eating disorder are not getting the help and support they need because of a perceptions about a "women's illness", say researchers. Men are underdiagnosed and undertreated for anorexia and other eating disorders, despite making up about a quarter of cases, a UK study suggests. Frontline health workers have a key role in identifying eating disorders in young men, they report in BMJ Open. Men are under pressure to have the "ideal" body image, says a charity. Researchers from the University of Oxford and University of Glasgow interviewed 39 young people aged 16 to 25, including 10 men, about their experiences of diagnosis, treatment and support for eating disorders. Continue reading the main story "They say young men with eating disorders were "underdiagnosed, undertreated and underresearched". This is partly because the men themselves were unaware of the symptoms, despite purging, not eating for days or obsessive calorie counting, they said. "Our findings suggest that men may experience particular problems in recognising that they may have an eating disorder as a result of the continuing cultural construction of eating disorders as uniquely or predominantly a female problem," said Dr Ulla Raisanen and Dr Kate Hunt. One man said he thought eating disorders only affected "fragile teenage girls"; another said he thought eating disorders were "something girls got"; while one was told by his doctor to "man up".[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-26935687[/url]
well no shit it's the same with men being affected by domestic abuse, it is seen as a problem that only affects women when it is a problem for both sexes. the dude that was told by his doctor to "man up" should find a non shitty doctor, holy shit that doctor sounds like an asshole.
[QUOTE=stealth_camo;44496788]well no shit it's the same with men being affected by domestic abuse, it is seen as a problem that only affects women when it is a problem for both sexes. the dude that was told by his doctor to "man up" should find a non shitty doctor, holy shit that doctor sounds like an asshole.[/QUOTE] Hate to say it but it's another case of the generalization of men and women, and how men are meant to be less worried about themselves.
[QUOTE=MasterFen006;44496845]Hate to say it but it's another case of the generalization of men and women, and how men are meant to be less worried about themselves.[/QUOTE] Why do you hate to say that?
[QUOTE=itisjuly;44496864]Why do you hate to say that?[/QUOTE] I dunno, I just feel like people'd hate me if I said it. I mean, it's my own opinion and I kind of feel similar to these young men in that I despise my own image and wish to change it, but I feel like I can't do a damn thing to change it despite all the effort I put in. But thankfully I don't think I'm in too deep to give myself an eating disorder over it.
Well, it's true, there's generally his whole societal expectation for men to not care so much about the way they look and feel. It's a real issue and causes both stuff like this and cases where men don't go to the doctor with potentially serious problems because of it.
[QUOTE=stealth_camo;44496788]well no shit it's the same with men being affected by domestic abuse, it is seen as a problem that only affects women when it is a problem for both sexes. the dude that was told by his doctor to "man up" should find a non shitty doctor, holy shit that doctor sounds like an asshole.[/QUOTE]As somebody who has the tendency to "man up" over just about everything, I'd probably do just that and tell a doctor who said that to [i]do their fucking job.[/i] Motherfucker is being paid to diagnose and treat, and "man up" isn't a legitimate diagnosis for a legitimate problem.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;44496864]Why do you hate to say that?[/QUOTE] Men are expected to be less whiny, if someone describes "whiny teenager with eating disorder" to people, I'd bet a majority would picture a girl. Also yeah I should have put it better than "whiny", but don't have anything else to say.
[QUOTE=NoOnE#235;44496982]Well, it's true, there's generally his whole societal expectation for men to not care so much about the way they look and feel. It's a real issue and causes both stuff like this and cases where men don't go to the doctor with potentially serious problems because of it.[/QUOTE] I think I'm starting to begin to experience the effects of this. I spent the first 16 years or so of my life (or maybe 17 even) being bullied, made to feel like shit over everything, etc. The latter part of my life - the last few years - I've forced myself to be more confident, to walk with my head held high, my chest out, to not back down when challenged; hell, even to go out of my way to challenge others as a sort of preemptive measure to make sure they don't bother attempting to fuck with me in the first place. It's worked. I've not been bullied in any real way since I started doing that. But now I've got this weird conflict going on in my brain constantly about everything. I don't want to come off as a dick to people, but then I don't want to appear 'weak' to people either. It's really starting to fuck me up, and I feel completely and totally isolated from everyone around me a lot of the time. Despite knowing more people now than I ever have done in my entire life I feel completely alone and isolated in the world.
This whole discussion about genders reminds me of when a woman tied a guy on her bed, put a rope on his penis to keep it erect, raped him and the cops laughed at him when he called for help.
Obviously how ever man tries to look like: [img]http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/michelangelo-1.jpg[/img]
It's a pretty huge problem in young men. Ask anyone on a serious high school wrestling team.
I've actually started to think I might have an eating disorder when I realized I eat nowhere near as much as I should be, but it's hard to come out and admit it to someone.
Bulk and cut....bulk and cut....
A few years ago (2007?) the BBC made and showed a docu about teen (male) anorexics and it was really eye opening. Up till then I didn't really think of it as a condition males ever suffered from. Turns out its pretty equal so in reality people shouldn't be surprised.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;44496864]Why do you hate to say that?[/QUOTE] Oh I think you know why...
[QUOTE=be;44499123]Oh I think you know why...[/QUOTE] The morons.
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;44497100]As somebody who has the tendency to "man up" over just about everything, I'd probably do just that and tell a doctor who said that to [i]do their fucking job.[/i] Motherfucker is being paid to diagnose and treat, and "man up" isn't a legitimate diagnosis for a legitimate problem.[/QUOTE] man up more like lawyer up for malpractice (no idea if you can actually do that)
I don't know if I have eating disorder, but my weight is 60kg and I am 20. I can eat shitload and I will not gain weight, same as for not eating nothing for long time makes me not lose weight.
[QUOTE=HeatPipe;44499706]I don't know if I have eating disorder, but my weight is 60kg and I am 20. I can eat shitload and I will not gain weight, same as for not eating nothing for long time makes me not lose weight.[/QUOTE] Count calories, you merely aren't eating as much as you think you are. I fell into the same trap. Eating disorders like anorexia are mental disorders; the mere fact that you want to gain weight means you are not anorexic.
[QUOTE=HeatPipe;44499706]I don't know if I have eating disorder, but my weight is 60kg and I am 20. I can eat shitload and I will not gain weight, same as for not eating nothing for long time makes me not lose weight.[/QUOTE] That would be a problem with your body, not your psyche.
[QUOTE=Angus725;44498667]Obviously how ever man tries to look like: [img]http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/michelangelo-1.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] But that is a male power fantasy!
I'm strongly starting to believe that I have anorexia, but anorexia doesn't imply [i]anorexia nervosa[/i]. I don't care about being skinny, but it's more that I'm skinny because I (might) have anorexia. I don't really eat a meal unless my stomach is physically hurting. And if I do eat, I usually can't finish the meal because there comes a point where I don't want to eat anymore, which doesn't always mean I'm full. And if I'm tired and hungry, I usually take sleep over food unless my stomach is really growling. And there may even be times where I skip meals or forget to eat, even when I'm hungry. So I usually wake up in the morning hungry, but might not eat until lunch, which may not even be a big meal, so I get hungry again in a few hours and just ignore it.
Yeah that is definitely not normal and you should check it out.
I've had a serious set of eating disorders following some shitty events in my life, and seeing a doctor about it always became a discussion of "what drug can I give this kid for his stomach that'll let him eat food" rather than dealing with any element of what was causing me to have trouble eating. After having gone through all sorts of drugs for high acid content, ulcers, low acid content, etc, blood tests to see what's wrong and just about everything but the mental element of it. I've had to see a therapist out of my own money due to the doctors not seeing a serious reason for me to see a psychiatrist for my condition.
[QUOTE=demoguy08;44501063]Yeah that is definitely not normal and you should check it out.[/QUOTE] How is it something you check out or fix? "Men can't be anorexic."
If the doctor isn't a complete and utter moron he/she is well aware that men can indeed be anorexic and treat you appropriately. [editline]9th April 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;44501187]I've had a serious set of eating disorders following some shitty events in my life, and seeing a doctor about it always became a discussion of "what drug can I give this kid for his stomach that'll let him eat food" rather than dealing with any element of what was causing me to have trouble eating. After having gone through all sorts of drugs for high acid content, ulcers, low acid content, etc, blood tests to see what's wrong and just about everything but the mental element of it. I've had to see a therapist out of my own money due to the doctors not seeing a serious reason for me to see a psychiatrist for my condition.[/QUOTE] ..or not. That sucks.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;44501187]I've had a serious set of eating disorders following some shitty events in my life, and seeing a doctor about it always became a discussion of "what drug can I give this kid for his stomach that'll let him eat food" rather than dealing with any element of what was causing me to have trouble eating. After having gone through all sorts of drugs for high acid content, ulcers, low acid content, etc, blood tests to see what's wrong and just about everything but the mental element of it. I've had to see a therapist out of my own money due to the doctors not seeing a serious reason for me to see a psychiatrist for my condition.[/QUOTE] You should see another doctor.
I was never anorexic/bulemic but I used to have muscle dysmorphia and people were pretty shrug-offy about that
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;44500438]I'm strongly starting to believe that I have anorexia, but anorexia doesn't imply [i]anorexia nervosa[/i]. I don't care about being skinny, but it's more that I'm skinny because I (might) have anorexia. I don't really eat a meal unless my stomach is physically hurting. And if I do eat, I usually can't finish the meal because there comes a point where I don't want to eat anymore, which doesn't always mean I'm full. And if I'm tired and hungry, I usually take sleep over food unless my stomach is really growling. And there may even be times where I skip meals or forget to eat, even when I'm hungry. So I usually wake up in the morning hungry, but might not eat until lunch, which may not even be a big meal, so I get hungry again in a few hours and just ignore it.[/QUOTE] You could try changing up your eating habits. Binge eating is an eating disorder too, so don't think eating huge meals is normal. If you think you eat too little, you could try eating portions you would normally eat, and have healthy snacks inbetween like unsalted peanuts, granola snacks, some fresh fruit, and no junk food like chips and the works. You also might want to try eating a light breakfast, even if you aren't hungry. Even just water in the morning should help your metabolism.
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