• A Friend of Mine Wants to Try Psilocybin with Practically No Drug Experience...
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[i]When in doubt ask stoners on the internet![/i] So, next month, I'ma go get de-virginized and see my first live Rocky Horror Show (it's a double feature play with Repo! the Genetic Opera, :krad2:) with four of my good friends; two kids I know who graduated last year (the only ones who aren't Rocky virgins; we shall call them Sidney and Alex), this girl I used to go to high school with before I moved (we shall call her Laurie), and my older brother (we shall call him Chuck). So here's the thing it's (obviously) a midnight event that will be bomb as fuck, and we're planning to spend pretty much all of the night out chilling afterwards. And, if it's like any of the other million times I've been out with Chuck, Sidney, and Alex, we'll probably smoke ourselves out afterwards. This is the first time that Laurie's gonna be hanging with the crew, and she's never smoked before, and she doesn't want to. But Sidney's going to be bringing some shrooms to make the night a little more wacky and awesome, and Laurie wants to try the shrooms. Who the fuck wants to do shrooms but not pot? Derp. Anyways, I'm questioning whether or not it's too much for a first-timer to do something like that. I'm pretty sure that she is more interested in a "free-your-mind" hallucinogen type deal than just getting a little chill or buzzed with some pot or alcohol, so odds are I could persuade her to do something not as strong as shrooms (I sound like a moron here, and I am; I don't have much experience myself with hallucinogens, it'll be my first time I take)... Help me out here. Can someone without experience (besides getting buzzed a few times at parties) just do shrooms or any other similar drug, or is my friend just going to have to sit around while we're fried?
Why would you be the judge of what she takes, I don't see that as being right. That being said, shrooms aren't that intense. Go ahead and let her, if anything goes wrong just be a responsible friend and comfort her but it's shrooms so I doubt anything will.
ITT: your friend bugs the fuck out after doing shrooms, you guys are stuck taking care of her all night. tell her to smoke first, then she can try shrooms. [editline]18th January 2011[/editline] trust me, if you've ever seen retards do psychedelics it's not something you'd recommend.
Just because it's the first chance she has doesn't mean she should take it. Also, you said you're seeing Rocky live, do they do a live verson of Repo! also?
nothing wrong with trying mushrooms without any drug experience, just keep the set and setting in mind. dont take them at a concert first time, take em at home or at a friend's place. dont dose up too much, 1 to 2 grams of cubies is enough.
[QUOTE=CjienX;27494416]Just because it's the first chance she has doesn't mean she should take it. Also, you said you're seeing Rocky live, do they do a live verson of Repo! also?[/QUOTE] Yes, I do. Fuck yeah. And we're planning on seeing the show sober but getting wasted later... maybe smoke before the show if we have the time.
Make sure she doesn't do a lot just in the case that she can't handle it. I'd say a lot of people could without any previous experience with drugs, but there are a lot of people who aren't going to do well. My first couple of times doing weed was far too intense, so much so that it wasn't really enjoyable being high. I was handling myself pretty well, but it really wasn't fun. Of course about a year into smoking I looked for these highs that were far too intense. I haven't really done shrooms, so my opinion is based on the fact that many people can't handle weed with their first experience. If there is anybody here who's done shrooms before any other drugs you should really say how the experience was.
i mean i still haven't done shrooms but i've dropped a lot of acid, and i would NEVER tell someone who'd never done drugs to drop acid. i had a hard time believing how different lsd makes the world seem even though i'd realized that your perceptions can be changed lightly with bud, alcohol, coke, etc. maybe if she's actually read up on the effects of shrooms she'll do alright. once again i don't have first hand experience with shrooms specifically, only acid. also, if she does do shrooms convince her to smoke. at least for acid, bud makes it a lot more fun because it both calms you down and also increases the effects of the drug. fuck i love weed so much. it goes well with EVERYTHING.
Reading the effects of ambien or weed do no justice in conveying how the drug actually is. Trip reports give a lot better understanding of what to expect but you really can't explain a lot of it, especially to somehow who has no drug experience. I'm assuming you mean look at trip reports and stuff when you say read up on it, but I just felt a need to still make a distinction. With all that being said I would say it's far better to know what to expect, so I would agree with you. Maybe get some benzos so that if her trip goes bad you have something to relax her.
i personally wouldn't recommend it, but as long as shes the type of person with an open mind and an optimistic attitude, she'll probably do alright. it seems that she wants to try it, which i guess would help the set and setting issue. i would describe shrooms as just overwhelming for the first few hours, rather than intense. after that it chills out. if she wants to try them, let her i guess. just inform her about the effects, and how it makes you feel. because it seems that people (that I talk to) think that you see random bunnies and other hallucinogens and shit like that, its not like that. it's probably because its classified as a "hallucinogen", so people get ideas that are not true.
It's also because of the dramatizations with any type of media, which is of course needed because then it makes it a lot more interesting. A good example of the top of my head is that scene in Fearing and Loathing in Las Vegas where everyone turns into lizards. Although I've never been on acid I am under the impression that this would never occur during an acid trip because the hallucinations are more distortions or reality rather than a different reality, and the hallucinations that do occur deal more with patterns. If I could get some confirmation or a rebuttal on this from an experienced tripper: that would be nice.
[QUOTE=Handsome Pete;27494737]And we're planning on seeing the show sober but getting wasted later... maybe smoke before the show if we have the time.[/QUOTE] People tripping on psychedelics will HATE being with drunk people, at-least I do. It just ruins the experience because of how dumb drunk people are.
[QUOTE=Pepin;27496782]Reading the effects of ambien or weed do no justice in conveying how the drug actually is. Trip reports give a lot better understanding of what to expect but you really can't explain a lot of it, especially to somehow who has no drug experience. I'm assuming you mean look at trip reports and stuff when you say read up on it, but I just felt a need to still make a distinction. With all that being said I would say it's far better to know what to expect, so I would agree with you. Maybe get some benzos so that if her trip goes bad you have something to relax her.[/QUOTE] man im so tight, i typed like five huge paragraphs before on my netbook then my neighbor's internet stopped responding and i lost it all. anyway, i agree with your point. it's near impossible to know what to expect witha drug until you'vbe done it. but reading about it so you know what to expect is a big help, even though it can only get you so far. if she's going into the trip (like you said in your post after this one) with the idea it's going to be like movies portray it ("the snozzberries taste like snozzberries!" and floating down a strawberry river with a yeti. name the movies and you can have a cookie :D ) then she's in for quite a surprise. when i first dropped acid it still blew me away as to how vastly it can change your world. i consider doing other drugs first as stepping stones so you can realize the potential of stronger ones. also, if you guys are only going to be smoking and drinking and she's just going to be on shrooms, she's not going to have a good time. at least for acid, it's way more fun if there's someone else tripping with you. i was at a halloween party where everyone was just drunk but me and my friend were on a whole bunch of acid. everyone else was drunk and stuff and it was kind of weird but since we were both tripping we were getting the same effects and could talk about it. if you're alone tripping noone else is going to have any idea what you're talking about, and if they know you're on acid and don't know what it's like then they just do stupid shit cause they think it'll trip you out. case in point - at that party we gave a really drunk guy acid, he pretended to have a seizure and cleared the party out. and i distinctly heard a few people say "oh shit, thats what lsd does to you! its so bad!" which was hilarious but also made me angry that people are so fucking miseducated. i totally lost my point in there, but yeah, if she does them have her smoke and you guys should trip as well. and get some valium or some shit, it will calm her down but i've heard it will also almost completely kill the trip.
Is the yeti one from Tenacious D? I remember him doing something with a yeti
[QUOTE=theXinferno;27505260]also, if you guys are only going to be smoking and drinking and she's just going to be on shrooms, she's not going to have a good time. at least for acid, it's way more fun if there's someone else tripping with you. i was at a halloween party where everyone was just drunk but me and my friend were on a whole bunch of acid. everyone else was drunk and stuff and it was kind of weird but since we were both tripping we were getting the same effects and could talk about it. if you're alone tripping noone else is going to have any idea what you're talking about, and if they know you're on acid and don't know what it's like then they just do stupid shit cause they think it'll trip you out. case in point - at that party we gave a really drunk guy acid, he pretended to have a seizure and cleared the party out. and i distinctly heard a few people say "oh shit, thats what lsd does to you! its so bad!" which was hilarious but also made me angry that people are so fucking miseducated.[/QUOTE] naw we were all gonna do them. except for chuck because hes the designated pussy jk chuck i love you <3
[QUOTE=SuperNatural;27503097]People tripping on psychedelics will HATE being with drunk people, at-least I do. It just ruins the experience because of how dumb drunk people are.[/QUOTE] I completely agree with you there (except for the one time that 6 of us were tripping at my friend's house, but my friend didn't wanna trip that night because his previous trip was a real bad one, so he just got drunk and chilled with us (he had experience tripping though, so knew what not to do)).
The first psychedelic experience (especially if there is no previous drug experience) should be someplace safe and comfortable. Don't let her take them and then go out into public. That just screams bad trip. [editline]19th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=HiddenMyst;27521837]I completely agree with you there (except for the one time that 6 of us were tripping at my friend's house, but my friend didn't wanna trip that night because his previous trip was a real bad one, so he just got drunk and chilled with us (he had experience tripping though, so knew what not to do)).[/QUOTE] Friends who are drunk =/= drunk people ya know what I mean? You got a bunch of dumb-as-fuck drunk people running around doing stupid shit, it's gonna affect the trip. You got a few close friends, and one is drunk instead of tripping, it won't be an issue (provided the individual is capable of handling himself whilst drunk).
[QUOTE=CjienX;27505518]Is the yeti one from Tenacious D? I remember him doing something with a yeti[/QUOTE] go buy yourself a cookie, you win. i'm suprised noone knows the snozzberries quote, that movie comes up all the time around here.
If they're not you're shrooms to give to people then it's not you're responsibility as the giver if they freak the fuck out... I personally wouldn't feel comfortable giving someone shrooms if they've never even hit da blunt one time, run before you can walk. I may be right or wrong but I've always thought you should smoke yourself silly to establish some level of comfort with the fact you can handle an albeit laughable psychedelic in comparison but I see it as progression.. Simply if you can't smoke the green you shouldn't be eatin' dem shrooms. It most likely won't be an enjoyable night for her, you'll all be chilling while she's getting raped in the ass.
[QUOTE=theXinferno;27559793]go buy yourself a cookie, you win. i'm suprised noone knows the snozzberries quote, that movie comes up all the time around here.[/QUOTE] Super Troopers.
I thought it was Willy Wonka
[QUOTE=Broni;27561284]If they're not you're shrooms to give to people then it's not you're responsibility as the giver if they freak the fuck out... I personally wouldn't feel comfortable giving someone shrooms if they've never even hit da blunt one time, run before you can walk. I may be right or wrong but I've always thought you should smoke yourself silly to establish some level of comfort with the fact you can handle an albeit laughable psychedelic in comparison but I see it as progression.. Simply if you can't smoke the green you shouldn't be eatin' dem shrooms. It most likely won't be an enjoyable night for her, you'll all be chilling while she's getting raped in the ass.[/QUOTE] Same, but if she really wants to try them let her try them but on the condition no-one is going to babysit her, if she has a shit trip her fucking fault.
[QUOTE=Broni;27561284]It most likely won't be an enjoyable night for her, you'll all be chilling while she's getting raped in the ass.[/QUOTE] sounds like some requiem for a dream shit right there. [editline]22nd January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Mac2468;27569222]Super Troopers.[/QUOTE] winrar.
Dude.. flat refusing to sit someone if they took psychedelics is a little inappropriate.. I'd be pissed off as hell having to do it but you can't just let some be tripping around a place they don't know with a shitload of strangers. The best thing is put her off taking them but if she does..be a little heartless not to keep an eye on the girl
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