• Instruction video of how to take off EBOLA protective suits
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But who gets your doffing partner out of his suit!? Doffing partners all the way down.
My one concern regarding this whole ebola crisis is why nobody has bothered to shut down airports. I don't understand how it can "paradoxically make the problem worse". Sure, the people who need treatment can't get it, but that's why countries that can give the treatment send teams over to take care of specific areas, not let those infected board planes and fly across the globe to get treated.
What is "Biological Level C"? As far as I know pretty much everyone goes by the "Biosafety Level (BSL)" 1-4 (Ebola is 4, if you were wondering) standards these ways, so I'm kinda curious to know what "Biological Level C" means.
[QUOTE=haloguy234;46264397]My one concern regarding this whole ebola crisis is why nobody has bothered to shut down airports. I don't understand how it can "paradoxically make the problem worse". Sure, the people who need treatment can't get it, but that's why countries that can give the treatment send teams over to take care of specific areas, not let those infected board planes and fly across the globe to get treated.[/QUOTE] because of money
[QUOTE=GunFox;46264365]But who gets your doffing partner out of his suit!? Doffing partners all the way down.[/QUOTE] As funny as that thought is, I would assume that since the doffing partner only ever contaminates his own gloves by touching the contaminated suit, he could easily unsuit himself or get help from an un-suited assistant without much risk.
[QUOTE=GunFox;46264365]But who gets your doffing partner out of his suit!? Doffing partners all the way down.[/QUOTE] It ends with Atarus Koswick, a 73 year old ex-military Russian. Around 50 years ago he was the first to test a new hazardous environment suit. This suit proved to be impenetrable to any and all deadly gasses and toxins. On the down side, it also proved to be impossible to remove. He is doomed to live out the rest of his life in this suit, but he does what he can.
[QUOTE=MILKE;46264470]because of money[/QUOTE] That sounds absolutely stupid. Money shouldn't be an issue in regards to preventing a potentially worldwide epidemic. People who have been to countries affected by ebola aren't even being screened prior to boarding a plane to anywhere else. That's not how it should be. Treating can only go so far, and letting people who are potentially infectious [I]fly in a plane filled with hundreds of other passengers[/I] is not how things like this are contained, it's how they spread. [editline]17th October 2014[/editline] If money is taken into consideration before the well-being of [I]the entire fucking globe[/I], then there's a serious problem with how this shit is ran.
The U.S government is probably gonna issue a travel ban with the rate that its spreading and people starting to show up imo. The CDC should just fly volunteer docs back and forth on there private jet.
[QUOTE=GunFox;46264365]But who gets your doffing partner out of his suit!? Doffing partners all the way down.[/QUOTE] he is burned in the incinerator
[QUOTE=GunFox;46264365]But who gets your doffing partner out of his suit!? Doffing partners all the way down.[/QUOTE] I guess they could be working shifts, the next guy is putting on his suit, enters the doffing room, helps the previous guy out of his suit and sends him on his way.
[QUOTE=SilverDragon619;46264746]I guess they could be working shifts, the next guy is putting on his suit, enters the doffing room, helps the previous guy out of his suit and sends him on his way.[/QUOTE] What about the final person. Regardless though, the risk seems significantly lower for the doffing partner, so either someone with a lower level suit could help him remove it, then remove [I]his [/I]own suit; or the partner could just remove it himself in accordance with doffing procedures that don't require partners.
[QUOTE=LarparNar;46264766]What about the final person. Regardless though, the risk seems significantly lower for the doffing partner, so either someone with a lower level suit could help him remove it, then remove [I]his [/I]own suit; or the partner could just remove it himself in accordance with doffing procedures that don't require partners.[/QUOTE] Or why not get one of those fancy decontamination chambers, where you walk in from one end, you get showered and/or marinated in disinfectant or whatever, then the entire chamber drains, allowing you to safely remove your suit, then proceed to the next area for a shower.
[QUOTE=SilverDragon619;46264865]Or why not get one of those fancy decontamination chambers, where you walk in from one end, you get showered and/or marinated in disinfectant or whatever, then the entire chamber drains, allowing you to safely remove your suit, then proceed to the next area for a shower.[/QUOTE] If the hospital/facility has this kind of equipment they will probably use it, but it's not available everywhere.
[QUOTE=chipset;46264487]As funny as that thought is, I would assume that since the doffing partner only ever contaminates his own gloves by touching the contaminated suit, he could easily unsuit himself or get help from an un-suited assistant without much risk.[/QUOTE] Really I just wanted an excuse to say "doffing partners all the way down". Go on, say it. Its fun.
[QUOTE=LarparNar;46264426]What is "Biological Level C"? As far as I know pretty much everyone goes by the "Biosafety Level (BSL)" 1-4 (Ebola is 4, if you were wondering) standards these ways, so I'm kinda curious to know what "Biological Level C" means.[/QUOTE] The ABC system is used in the US, A for a one-solid-piece gas/vapor proof suit, B for a one-piece tyvek suit, and C for a mish-mosh of different layers held together with duct-tape. All can be with or without positive pressure pumps ("PAPRs") to keep contaminants out. Its cheaper and easier to run with level C in high numbers if the contagion isn't airborne yet you need a high number of personnel protected. Because sooner or later some parts of the suit get disposed/incinerated.
[QUOTE=Mr Shadyface;46264503]It ends with Atarus Koswick, a 73 year old ex-military Russian. Around 50 years ago he was the first to test a new hazardous environment suit. This suit proved to be impenetrable to any and all deadly gasses and toxins. On the down side, it also proved to be impossible to remove. He is doomed to live out the rest of his life in this suit, but he does what he can.[/QUOTE] Not even a chainsaw could tear it in half?
[QUOTE=haloguy234;46264504]That sounds absolutely stupid. Money shouldn't be an issue in regards to preventing a potentially worldwide epidemic. People who have been to countries affected by ebola aren't even being screened prior to boarding a plane to anywhere else. That's not how it should be. Treating can only go so far, and letting people who are potentially infectious [I]fly in a plane filled with hundreds of other passengers[/I] is not how things like this are contained, it's how they spread. [editline]17th October 2014[/editline] If money is taken into consideration before the well-being of [I]the entire fucking globe[/I], then there's a serious problem with how this shit is ran.[/QUOTE] Where's the cutoff for how many cases of Ebola a country has to have before you ban travel though? I've heard people advocating banning travel to Nigeria, a country that currently has[I] fewer Ebola patients than the US.[/I] By that logic, everywhere else should ban travel to the US, and that would be economically disastrous.
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