What the fucking christ
So just more debt to be saddled with that you can't repay because it will be so much harder to get a job if you fail to graduate
Despite all the special deals, aid, and attention students supposedly get, we honestly get fucked over constantly.
Fuck you you fucking subhuman scum.
I see where they're going with it, but not sure this is the right approach. people accepting pell grants and then fucking off with them has been a big problem for years. maybe limit them the same way SNAP is limited so they're only valid for food and school supplies instead of letting kids buy a ps4 and a 60 inch flat screen like my dropout cousin did
What the actual fuck? Shit like this is why I decided not to go to college in the states.
[QUOTE=butre;52902077]I see where they're going with it, but not sure this is the right approach. people accepting pell grants and then fucking off with them has been a big problem for years. maybe limit them the same way SNAP is limited so they're only valid for food and school supplies instead of letting kids buy a ps4 and a 60 inch flat screen like my dropout cousin did[/QUOTE]
In Florida, state scholarships require you to repay the scholarship if you drop a class after getting the money, and they drop you if your GPA or credit-hours per semester goes below a certain level, so you have to bust your ass to recover if you fuck up a class.
[QUOTE=Saber15;52902102]In Florida, state scholarships require you to repay the scholarship if you drop a class after getting the money, and they drop you if your GPA or credit-hours per semester goes below a certain level, so you have to bust your ass to recover if you fuck up a class.[/QUOTE]
You explained to me in a matter of seconds what UNF has yet to email me back about. I had to drop stats because of course overload and I owed $300 out of nowhere. I didn't get a response about it for a week as to what happened.
[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;52902109]You explained to me in a matter of seconds what UNF has yet to email me back about. I had to drop stats because of course overload and I owed $300 out of nowhere. I didn't get a response about it for a week as to what happened.[/QUOTE]
If you were riding on Bright Futures for that $300, it likely wasn't covered to begin with. They have caps on how much they will do per semester.
Sauce: FSU student, 21 hour schedule.
[QUOTE=Revenge282;52902124]If you were riding on Bright Futures for that $300, it likely wasn't covered to begin with. They have caps on how much they will do per semester.
Sauce: FSU student, 21 hour schedule.[/QUOTE]
I have Bright Futures, but I paid the semester off before the year started after all the aid went through. The $300 only showed up after I withdrew late in the semester.
[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;52902142]I have Bright Futures, but I paid the semester off before the year started after all the aid went through. The $300 only showed up after I withdrew late in the semester.[/QUOTE]
Bright Futures is a fickle mistress. They like to act late on a lot of things. It made figuring out shit a hell for me my freshman year after deciding that I apparently was not eligible (but actually was, to be found later) for the highest tier.
[QUOTE=cdr248;52901987]Despite all the special deals, aid, and attention students supposedly get, we honestly get fucked over constantly.[/QUOTE]
Why do you think they push college on us so damned much?
Don't get me wrong, college education is fucking amazing and opens so many doors, but they hype the ever-loving shit out of it pretty much since you're in elementary school, and they crank the hype to 11 when you're in high-school.
[editline]17th November 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=butre;52902077]I see where they're going with it, but not sure this is the right approach. people accepting pell grants and then fucking off with them has been a big problem for years. maybe limit them the same way SNAP is limited so they're only valid for food and school supplies instead of letting kids buy a ps4 and a 60 inch flat screen like my dropout cousin did[/QUOTE]
Hell, I used to know a guy who bragged about how his wife would sign up for courses, get the grant, and then just never show up. People like this fucking ruin everything for everyone, I guess.
It really is a damn shame, though, because when I took a grant out for my HVAC certification course it injected a good sum of money into my account (a whole $1,200 or so), which I desperately needed after struggling to get anywhere with CutCo and working min. wage at Taco Villa.
I'm wondering if this is retroactive, because if it is I'm fucked.
So when you get raped and wind up with that rape pregnancy you can't abort, if the right has its way, and have to drop out of college to raise it, now you get an extra helping of debt because fuck you twice.
You only have to pay back a grant if you don't succeed in completing the courses that will enable you to get the funds to pay back the grant
:downs::downs::downs::downs::downs::downs::downs::downs::downs::downs:
[QUOTE=Fapplejack;52902521]You only have to pay back a grant if you don't succeed in completing the courses that will enable you to get the funds to pay back the grant
:downs::downs::downs::downs::downs::downs::downs::downs::downs::downs:[/QUOTE]
Grants are pretty great things, failing to meet the grant requirements should be grounds for you to pay it back. If you meet them, it's free money.
I better cheat extra hard then to get my degree then
[QUOTE=cdr248;52901987]Despite all the special deals, aid, and attention students supposedly get, we honestly get fucked over constantly.[/QUOTE]
Despite all the bandaid solutions the system remains broken
Who would've thought
[QUOTE=Revenge282;52902570]Grants are pretty great things, failing to meet the grant requirements should be grounds for you to pay it back. If you meet them, it's free money.[/QUOTE]
there already is something that does this, its called a loan.
fucking the poor with more debt is asinine, as if poor students don't have enough stress going to college.
[QUOTE=Saber15;52902102]In Florida, state scholarships require you to repay the scholarship if you drop a class after getting the money, and they drop you if your GPA or credit-hours per semester goes below a certain level, so you have to bust your ass to recover if you fuck up a class.[/QUOTE]
Do they pay it all out at once or something? Over here you get paid student benefits / loans monthly, so if you dropped out that should just stop (though I've never checked how it works). You can also lose them basically the same way (failing more than half your classes), but it only matters when you have to re-apply.
[QUOTE=Tobba;52903660]Do they pay it all out at once or something? Over here you get paid student benefits / loans monthly, so if you dropped out that should just stop (though I've never checked how it works). You can also lose them basically the same way (failing more than half your classes), but it only matters when you have to re-apply.[/QUOTE]
The way the Pell Grant works here in the US is they give the grant to the college first, the college uses it to pay for whatever it applies to (usually tuition, but IIRC books are also covered), and after that the rest is given to you via a check in the mail.
So what if you take a break? How would they differentiate that from "not finishing"? I know people who have taken time like a decade long break trying to figure shit out. And if they find a decent job through trades or whatnot in that period, all of a sudden they're stuck in a situation where they're forced to go back to school or get debt. How's any of that make sense.
There's no way of knowing what someone does after they first drop out or not finish they're degree, maybe they got the skills they needed from the few college classes they decided to take for a job and decide to pursue that but now they're chained. Or how about the students who figure out that perhaps college isn't for them and they are a better fit for something else but are screwed.
Why is it always Republicans so eager to make higher education less accessible to anyone without wealth.
[QUOTE=shadow_oap;52903978].
Why is it always Republicans so eager to make higher education less accessible to anyone without wealth.[/QUOTE]
It's easier to convince people without an education to vote Republican. It's why they keep trying to make public education worse and make it impossible to go to college.
I wonder if this will cause the enrolment rate to plummet
[QUOTE=Sableye;52902955]there already is something that does this, its called a loan.
fucking the poor with more debt is asinine, as if poor students don't have enough stress going to college.[/QUOTE]
You have to pay back loans with interest. Grants and scholarships are free money. If the stipulation to your grant or scholarship is that you have to maintain X, Y, and Z, then so be it. You still don't pay them back in the end, unless you, again, don't meet the requirements while they're paying you.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;52904219]The more I think about it, the more college in general seems like one huge scam.
Book publishers gain millions from the system. Banks used to make tons of money on it, until Obama fixed that in his era.
And from what I understand, Federal grants have to be repaid by the student if they don't attend more than 60% of the semester. Usually the college tries to collect first, then they just turn it over to a collection agency. So I don't really see how anyone could get a grant then fuck off, they would owe the "unearned" portion back.[/QUOTE]
There's rent seeking cunts in the system but it's nowhere near a scam
[QUOTE=GunFox;52902372]So when you get raped and wind up with that rape pregnancy you can't abort, if the right has its way, and have to drop out of college to raise it, now you get an extra helping of debt because fuck you twice.[/QUOTE]
thats a really dumb comeback; like how often does this shit happen that made you think this was a good idea to post?
not to mention there's a thing called putting the child up for adoption
[QUOTE=Revenge282;52904101]You have to pay back loans with interest. Grants and scholarships are free money. If the stipulation to your grant or scholarship is that you have to maintain X, Y, and Z, then so be it. You still don't pay them back in the end, unless you, again, don't meet the requirements while they're paying you.[/QUOTE]
ya and under another provision of the senate plan, they will also be counted as income, which means you get to pay taxes on your free money as well. currently you don't have to delcare them as income
[editline]18th November 2017[/editline]
grants that is.
[QUOTE=angrytoiletry;52904320]thats a really dumb comeback; like how often does this shit happen that made you think this was a good idea to post?
not to mention there's a thing called putting the child up for adoption[/QUOTE]
1. It happens often enough that it should be a concern.
2. You clearly haven't thought for mord than 15 seconds about this. "yeah, its fine to make system that forces people to give up their children for monetary reasons"
[QUOTE=da space core;52904835]1. It happens often enough that it should be a concern.
2. You clearly haven't thought for mord than 15 seconds about this. "yeah, its fine to make system that forces people to give up their children for monetary reasons"[/QUOTE]
thats not what i said or implied; abortion shouldn't be as restrictive as it stands, but it's not like youre stuck with the child for the rest of your life lol
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