• Iraqi special forces fleeing Ramadi, city is now entirely under Daesh/ISIS control as they launch a
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[quote]Fighters from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) group have overrun one of the last remaining districts held by government forces in the Iraqi city of Ramadi, security officials have said. Iraqi special forces soldiers were reported to be fleeing the city on Sunday as the armed group succeeded in breaching their last holdout. The armed group had earlier made significant gains in its battle to control Ramadi, besieging the army base and killing 15 soldiers in multiple suicide car bomb attacks. Al Jazeera's Zeina Khodr, reporting from Baghdad, said government officials had requested reinforcements from Shia factions in response to the ISIL advance, a move that could provoke opposition from the government's Sunni tribal allies. "There are many influential tribes in Anbar who have warned against this decision for some time now," Khodr said. The involvement of Shia militias has been condemned by leading tribal figure, Sheikh Ali al-Hatim, who said it would be considered an "Iranian occupation".[/quote] [url]http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/05/isil-overruns-iraqi-holdout-ramadi-150517142811552.html[/url]
Lovely, they prefer to fight against each other rather than focusing on the task at hand in defeating ISIS. Come on Iraq you have to step up or else the help of Shia militias will be the least of your concerns
[QUOTE]tribes[/QUOTE] Core of the crisis summed up. Ideas are most dangerous of all because you cannot kill what cannot be touched. So what happens if the unkillable breaks up into many smaller unkillable versions of itself, spread out over the land, infecting minds along the way. This shit. That region of the Earth will not be stabilizing any time soon. At all.
Pretty much makes Baghdad the next stop, though I think international forces would step in and defend that city
Arent Shia's the ones being discriminated and denied access to Baghdad? Why the fuck would Shia tribes give reinforcements after that sort of treatment.
Do you think most of the world doesn't actually give a shit about ISIS? I feel like they've been persisting too long and we could crush ISIS in a few weeks if we wanted to, but the rhetoric doesn't match the motivation.
[QUOTE=Sableye;47749728]Pretty much makes Baghdad the next stop, though I think international forces would step in and defend that city[/QUOTE] I think the US said they'll throw some people in for retaking Ramadi if it's needed. [editline]18th May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=cqbcat;47749786]Do you think most of the world doesn't actually give a shit about ISIS? I feel like they've been persisting too long and we could crush ISIS in a few weeks if we wanted to, but the rhetoric doesn't match the motivation.[/QUOTE] It's probably because governments are now listening to their people and not getting involved in the Middle East, probably because every time someone goes in they come out worse off.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spYp5tfwqfE[/media] Some footage from the fighting
[QUOTE=just-a-boy;47745857]Core of the crisis summed up. Ideas are most dangerous of all because you cannot kill what cannot be touched. So what happens if the unkillable breaks up into many smaller unkillable versions of itself, spread out over the land, infecting minds along the way. This shit. That region of the Earth will not be stabilizing any time soon. At all.[/QUOTE] Arab tribes have nothing to do with it. Arab tribes were united during the greatest Islamic conquests in history. I'm pretty sick of people saying the Middle East is never going to be stabilized when the reason it is destabilized is because of the arbitrary borders that we (the west) made all over the Middle East which improperly distributed populations of people which has lead to the destabilization that we see today.
[QUOTE=Sableye;47749728]Pretty much makes Baghdad the next stop, though I think international forces would step in and defend that city[/QUOTE] Only 100 kilometers away. [editline]18th May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=cqbcat;47749786]Do you think most of the world doesn't actually give a shit about ISIS? I feel like they've been persisting too long and we could crush ISIS in a few weeks if we wanted to, but the rhetoric doesn't match the motivation.[/QUOTE] To be fair, you have to [url=http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/10/isil-vs-mexican-drugcartelsunitedstatesislamophobia.html]put them in a wider world perspective.[/url] They aren't "literally the worse thing on the earth", they're only perceived to be because they're constantly feeding social media and the news their atrocities where as other places such as Mexico and North Korea don't.
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